History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

For whom? There were only women and children left...

My grandmother took the "trek" with four little girls, my mother was only 1 year old.....what karma had she to work off? The "wrong" ethnicity?

I told ya, Iron....it's a grey area....the Germans were targeted because they were Germans...many died...it still wasn't a Holocaust!

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

....there are alot grey areas where things overlap, Iron....then the intention counts, I think.

If the Soviets did go after the polish farmers because they were Poles then it would have been genocide, but then you could call the ethnic cleansing of Germans in the new after-war-borders that too...where to draw the line?

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

Well....isn't it always that way?

Popular people count more....at least popular in the West, we still rule the news and the social media.

I'm sure there is somewhere in the world a mass murder going on right now...and we will never know...because nobody in the West is truly interested (at least not enough to do more than just shrugging).

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

....not many people care about these ones....probably because not many people care about Tutsi's, Uighurs or Tigrayans!

But anti-semitism is still alive and well, and many Jew-hater in the West would like to see Israel eradicated....and Israel has been a consequence of the Holocaust....deny the Holocaust and it is much easier to deny Israel it's right to exist and to fight for it's survival ("poor opressed Arabs" and all that).

It is all still connected, the very old Jew-hate and the very new...that's why it is still talked about and discussed in a way the others aren't, it's probably for many people still more actual than the others.

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

If Katyn would had been a genocide after the official definition the Soviets would had gone for the wives and children of these officers too...just for being related to them, belonging to the same ethnicity, to the same people....

But they were after the "Intelligentsia", to destroy a possible/probable future resistance at the roots with killing the hearts and brains of it. There IS a difference! The common farmer, as long as they pledged their loyalty, had not much to fear from the Soviets....the Jews were never even given that choice!


It was the horrible consequence of medical euthanasia! And that was real hot stuff back then and seriously discussed by scientists...the idea to weed out the sick and the "unfitting" with pills and injections was a much thrown around and talked about idea in this time (also in the US and elsewhere in the modern West)....that's what Hitler build on I think....Auschwitz didn't spring out of the sick brain of one lone deranged maniac, I fear....

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]


Agreed! In Germany they had more than enough "Mitläufer"....on both sides...

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]


Don't! There is no need to...

We Ossis pitied the soviet soldiers stationed in the GDR....Now and then some tried to flee their "barracks" and tried to hide to just get away...

As I grew up we hated our own miserable commie party brigade but not the Soviets....we had no reason...we lived better than them and had way more freedoms than them, and that is saying alot.

But still, to be stationed in East-Germany was coveted by these soldiers, they were seen as an elite...and we had a living standard they could only dream of!

That had most occupation troops together I think, in East- and West Germany...the common soldier-Joe and the common soldier-Ivan...experiencing a tidy country (after everything was cleaned up and rebuild)!

History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]


Yeah...but only the West....

News / Heavy fighting. Legia Warszawa brutally attacked in Croatia by pro-German fanatics saluted by local mob ! [49]

Aren't Croats also Slavs?

Polonia / Poland, Germany, France, Spain or Greece? [35]


An argument for immigration?

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]


What would I do without you to clear things up! :)

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]

What a fight that would be...the Taliban against the chinese army!

Whom would I cheer for??? Hmmmm :)

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]


..."inviting" is abit stretching it....but I get what you mean...

Thing is, the people who want to come now have helped the western allies and are now under threat from the Taliban because of it....reminds be abit about Vietnam after the end...

But on the other hand, if they all leave who is left to fight the crazies? I mean, for decades other countries have fighted their war...they should start a resistance...there should be enough weapons and experience around by now...

Ach....I dunno....

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]

Merkel successor (in the CDU for now) Laschet in Warsaw

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History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]


Thank you, will look for it...


....there won't be much left afterwards....you can't have it both ways Crowie....demanding that Central Europeans are all germanized Slavs and want them to remember their true past and rebuild Sarmatia and still treating them like your worst enemy, like cancer...that's a truly dumb move, that way lays your defeat, the reason you don't make any progress at all!

History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]


Why no mercy? We are your slavic/sarmatian brethren after all....you can't reeducate corpses! Quite the contrary, the surviving germanized Sarmatians might become unwilling to listen to you and re-discover their true roots if you only show them revenge and cruelty....

History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]


Just out of interest...who told that story? Do you have a link maybe?

(The history nerd in me likes to read these old accounts too)

History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]

Yeah....it can make one doubt mankind....

History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]

That should balancing out all the raping the Germans did....the re-germanizing before, heh:)

Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [118]

Would be Spain better off when the regions would go separate if they are so different to each other (Basque)???

I mean....there are different regionalities (like Poland Germany has them galore) which add to the flavour of a still whole country... and then there are people who (sometimes) hate each others guts (English-Scots etc.) but are more or less for historical reasons pressed into the same borders, totally different people secretly (or openly) yearning for independence from each other....

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]

Refugee U-turn by the Chancellor

Millions of Afghans want to go to Germany

Whoa! *phew*

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Maybe she really learned from the consequences of 2015....even as she is bowing out come September...

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]


You are abit bigger??? :)

But it still irks me....such an EU-superstate ruled by Brussels is as much a bleak vision for Germans as for most other Europeans....but still it is always told as if the Germans can't wait to build it, and not the French who want it that way...

Germans have other ideas....the HANSE worked well during its high time....the HRE was a nice place to live most of the time....these are all better examples to model the future unified EU on than a central state ala France!


Hmmm....fireworks won't cut it, Crowie!

It's a war of ideas....Serbs must come forward with a better idea of Europe than the EU....an idea for all Europeans (not only for past and current and future Slavs).

A book about it would be a great start! :)

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]


Since Germany has more and more problems to rule Germany I am not very hopeful about this....

Not to mention that for most Germans a strong central state with a capital "who rules them all" is also a nightmare. In our history we have been more often than not a federation, with up to 500 (during the HRE) quite independent states (modern Germany has 16). The most recent memory of a german central state was the GDR, not an experiment most Germans are keen to repeat!

A strong central state ruled by Brussels is more a dream of the Frenchies, who love their Republic also very centralized with Paris and not much more....so would you please stop the Germans for that nightmarish vision of an EU superstate?

Thank you!

A unified EU, when Germans have something to say, would much more be modelled on the United States of America.....

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]


Actually not....where in central/eastern Europe Stetls with yiddish speaking orthodox, quite isolated living Jews were more common, in the Germany before the Nazis there wouldn't fit a leaf between christian and jewish Germans....they were the best adapted and integrated minority...indistinguishable by clothing, looks, manners, language....patriotic to boot....part of the cultural, scientific, artist elite.....an asset to the german society, not parasites....thats why Hitlers hate was so puzzling (maybe because he was Austrian)!

I read that many of the german Jews looked down their noses towards their Stetl brethren in the East...there was definitely a divide!

Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [118]

You preacher - I choir!

But as a German myself and hence direct successor of the Nazis and the german colonialists/imperialists its not that easy....they just won't stop knocking and demanding!

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Okay....

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You can stop bringing him to the table everytime....the guy is nearly a century dead by now!

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


Well...that's history now....Germans are today even unable to warn the population of upcoming catastrophes, even if every neighbour and his grandmom knows already all about it....Hitler would rotate in his grave (if he had one) if he could see what has become of an once flawlessly functioning Germany!

Soon the Poles will mock us with "deutsche Wirtschaft"! :(

Polonia / Which country is better SPAIN or POLAND [118]

Those comparisons with Nazi-Germany really make not much sense, the spanish policies in Overseas was vastly different to the usual colonial policies.

The main difference was surely racial, mixing was not only allowed but even encouraged to entrench the spanish culture/religion/language there (conquistadores and priests where all men....soon there were alot of little mestizos running around!).

So there was never an enforced segregation or a brutal apartheid policy because of skin color or heritage in the Central and South Americas...you need to keep that in mind before comparing Spain with the Nazi-Germans or the british Empire!

(Of course even today those with lighter skin = more european blood are somewhat higher up the societal ladder than those with darker skin = more indian or african blood, but this is a thing everywhere in the world)

History / Did Poland bring on its own destruction in 1939? [71]



But we are! (Animals that is)

This elevation of mankind to be the "crown of the creation" is.....well.....only human-religious hubris...so.....

The sooner mankind takes back her place as full part of the nature and believes itself no longer to be something special, some "crown" or the other, the sooner we will regain our balance with nature and the whole planet again, just my two cents.

But I'm bowing out here, that is so far off topic I wonder the Admin lets it stand, heh:)

*takes helmet and wanders off*