Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


I think you're correct...

easteuropeanfood.about.com/od/ah/g/busia.htm

"...Pronunciation: BOO-shah..."


Can you show me a Polish dictionary with that word in it? Maybe there's one but I bet you 99% of Poles have no what idea what a Busha is. Remember that Chicago had/has a large Polish but also Ukrainian and Russian population. Since mainly Americans of Polish descent seem to know that words it's possible the American Poles intermingled with the other groups and used the Russian babushka term and somehow turned it into bushka or busha..

...Alternatively babusia (common word) became busia and with the American pronounciation it quickly turned into busha.

Busha is definitely not a Warsaw word which you said your family came from...

Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]


I think the term Polack is offensive but pretty much only in the US as the term is "related" to the "Polack jokes".

Ironically those jokes, which aren't very common anymore, came about many generations ago when Poles started arriving en masse and were pretty much one of the first immigrant groups that came in such large numbers with no English skills whatsoever. Often they would say in broken English "I'm Polak no Englisz" (in other words they used the proper Polish term for saying I'm a Pole) and eventually the Polack jokes began.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


...you should!

That's like listening to a nazi mass-murderer's opinion on pros and cons of using gas to euthanize animals.

Nazism and communism are the same murderous ideologies of thugery and sympathisers of those ideologies should never be used as a reference.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]

Don't worry - the armageddon floods won't happen until Gore makes billions on his carbon offset scam. So far his personal assets have gone up from some measly $2 million to almost $100 million so we got some time to go before the nuclear winter, I mean the global warming, no - the climate change occurs... ...by then it'll be called human-induced menopausal hotflashes of the earth... LOL

History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]


Yeah, but they probably didn't mean the real Joseph Piłsudski but rather our own Stormfront spokesperson and PF member Joe Pilsudski. ;)

Just kidding'. Well, sort of...

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


Fair enough, if I misinterpreted your views then I appologize.

If you were to change your phrasiology from ...I dont hate all jews only the greedy ones... to "I hate greedy people" without bringing up religions, nationalites, races, etc. it would all make sense and be totally understandable. To be quoting Nazi websites even if you misunderstood it simply shows ignorance (yeah, the "white power" part was a good clue and by the way in my view "black power" is racist too).

On a different thread anti-Piłsudski alluded to Hitler being Jewish so the Holocaust which he pretty much denies was in effect a Jewish invention - Jews killing Jews, there you have it, it now all makes sense... (sarcasm smiley if I had one)

Oh, they also caused 9/11 - how could I forget that!

I call him anti-Piłsudski because people who study history quickly realize that Piłsudski was one of very few pro-Jewish or at the very least NOT an anti-Jewish politician of that era and here we have a Polish Nazi using Piłsudski's name - selective history at it's best.

To me it's pretty straight forward - there are good people and bad people. Some of them are Jews (or Israelis of Jewish faith) and some of them are Polish, American, British, etc.

As far as concentration camps - my grandmother's (on my mom's side) cousin was an army officer and was one of the thousands killed in Katyń. Through a Russian (or Ukrainian?) nurse he actually sent a short letter to his wife saying he was being held in a camp, was healthy and everything was fine. He said in the letter he hoped he'd be back in Poland soon. Well, he never came back and his wife never remarried.

I guess my entire family could have chosen to hate Russians and Ukrainians but that would be insane. Can't judge an entire nation based on thugs who ran that country and murdereers who killed the defenseless prisoners following the orders from those thugs.

The same thought process applies to the Jews. I'm sure there were/are bad people amongst them but I think the vast majority are regular folks like you and I and the only difference is that we celebrate Christmas while they celebrate Hunukkah.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


Really? Based on some of your and Joe's previous anti-Jewish posts I'm thinking you two are regulars on that site...

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


Well, no it's not "correct" Nana - it exists but that doesn't make it correct.

If the person emigrated from eastern territories then it's probably not a Polish but rather a Russian word. In Russian babushka means grandmother. Possibly it got shortened to bushka, then somehow became busha, busia, etc. Lots of people spoke Russian in eastern territories, after all you're talking generations of Russian occupation.

Now "buzia" is a different thing and means kiss, mouth.

If the family has lived in the US for a while then it's a cannibalized American form of babcia, babusia, etc.

Neither explanation makes busha or busia a Polish word. Instead it makes it a Russian or a broken Polish word. Most people would be very confused if they heard it today. Others would think you're saying buzia.

busia
Definition: Americanized Polish for "grandmother," which in Polish is babka or babcia or babunia.
Pronunciation: BOO-shah
Also Known As: babka, babcia, babunia
Examples:
Busia always made paczki for me on Fat Thursday and Fat Tuesday.

easteuropeanfood.about.com/od/ah/g/busia.htm

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]


Of course you may, I was joking and being facetious.

Mmm, yummy...

Love / Polish girls vs Ukrainian girls: Who do you think is hotter? [152]

Are you a guy? Yeah, there you have it... ;)

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


Huh??? Is "Busha" even Polish? Seriously doubt it. Instead I think it's a shortened version of the Russian Babushka ~ Busha? Maybe Sasha here will chime in? (he's Russian). I've never heard the term Busha and have met numerous Poles from different regions of Poland. Remember that large parts of Poland were under the Russian occupation for generations and many Russian words became part of the Polish vernacular.

Still, Busha must be a very unusual word -probably a Russian word which became Americanized and now somehow believed to be Polish?

Law / Old Polish money banknotes - what's their value today? [415]

m2tyj - I'd say contact the Polish Numismatic Society even though they primarily deal with coins.

ptn.pl/indexe.html

Your bill is in a very bad shape and I seriously doubt it has any value to it but who knows. It's from 1919 so a year after Poland regained independence after generations of non-existence. It's also called "Polish Mark" because they'd just changed over from the Reichmark (German currency of the time) and simply renamed it to the Polish Mark. Later the name was changed to Złoty or Gold.

If this note has been in your family for long time like you said you probably should put it in a glass frame and keep it as a family heirloom. Small piece of European and in particular Polish history... Hang on to it.

Some people lucked out though.

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]


Was he getting "upset" or was he surprised? Upset sounds like he was mad Poland had become a modern society. He sounds ignorant but ignorance exists in each and every country, wouldn't you say?

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]


Duh?, of course.


Agree 100%

Reps like illegals because they're "cheap" to the business owners. Of course the states pay when they get sick, commit crimes, etc. Dems want illegals because over 90% of mexicans vote Dem (according to la raza). In Georgia for example you cannot be asked for a picture ID when voting because that might be "discriminatory to the minorities" (GA supreme court ruling) so all you need is copies of bills paid in the state of Georgia. You think Acorn used that loophole? There are many other states with similar rules. ACLU has run amok.

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]


Cholera ciemna would probably cause an instantaneous death! LOL

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]

When it comes to both sides being idiots I agree 100%. They're idiots for different reasons but the effect is the same.

Mexicans being used as scapegoats - sure to a certain degree. However both the Mexican government and the Mexican public in general take the US for granted. They demand treatment from us that they do not offer to their own immigrants (from Guatemala, Colombia, etc.). Six months or so ago I heard on radio (pro-illegal alien discussion on NPR) that almost a quarter of prisoners in North Carolina are illegal aliens and they are not there for being illegal but for serious crimes: rape, theft, murder, etc.

It's about time we say no to those "scapegoats", send them home and invite legal workers from our allied nations. If they stay out of trouble and do a good job they should be allowed to stay if they so wish.


I'll have to show off my ignorance by admitting I'm not familar with the VWP acronym?


I'll reply when I figure out what VWP is... ['embarrassed smiley' if I had one]

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]


Well, since you brought it up - how come we in the US are more lenient toward illegal Mexicans jumping over the fence than citizens of an alied nation such as Poland? Why is it that the libs are so loud when it comes to supporting the illegals yet so quiet when it comes to helping our true friends?

I mention libs since you alluded to "right leaning news programs" - there are plenty of left leaning programs advocating on behalf of the illegals. Why is it so hard to get an agreement on work visas for our true allies such as Poland? Since you're so fired up over some "right leaning news programs" how do you explain this leftist overwhelmingly pro-Mexican movement 'favoring' one nation that aligned itself with Hitler in WWII yet the same leftists won't do a thing to help a nation that aligned itself with us in the last two, clearly unpopular wars?

Yo quiero imparcialidad - fairness here.

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]

He? It could be a gruba dziewczyna too... LOL Yeah, sounds like someone who's had more than a few cervezas. ;)

Off-Topic / To ALL IMMIGRANTS ("expats") to Poland on this forum... [124]


Why do you care? What's your point?

Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]

Well, you're welcome and thanks for accepting my reply even though I was pretty frank and direct...

I believe there is no such thing as "typical" Polish behavior - there might be "Polish looks", "Polish accent", etc. but other than that we're all different individuals.

In my view, the reason women always want to communicate and men always try to run away from it (I'm generalizing here) is because we really do speak different languages. A woman might think she's very clear on what's important to her but all we "hear" is a bunch of innuendos, tons of thoughts, many ideas, abundant amount of feelings, etc. It might as well have been hieroglyphs painted on our foreheads. Many men are logical by nature and feelings are NOT logical. Having a "technical" profession as I do only "heightens" the dose of logic in a relationship.

I had to see bunch of shrinks to realize what all the "signs" and "hidden messages" my ex-wife tried to share with me. I'm sad I didn't get it earlier and heartbroken that our marriage fell apart but we really do come from different planets, maybe even galaxies... All I and frankly all of us can do is to learn from our mistakes and hope for a brighter future.

So when in doubt - use plain English (Polish, Dutch, German, etc.) and don't move on to the next subject until you're 100% sure you're both on the same wavelength...

Strong tailwinds in your pursuit of happiness. :)

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

Agree...

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


Well...

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


I think maybe this has been taken out of proportion somewhat. I think Ms. J simply states the obvious "fact" that most men are very visual, more so than women and in general have a stronger sex drive, or at least we're more open about it. When women suffer from low libido the treatment often includes doses of testosterone - something we men are overflowing with.

...and yes, they do have more assets because again, we men in general are more visual which plays to their advantage. This is a great generalization of course but I think it is a 50-50 "deal" - we just show it in different ways...


...so is it women's fault or do we have ourselves to blame for it? After all the reason they "can get it anywhere" is us, men isn't it?

PS. In the name of our discussion I'd love to see Justysia in those stockings and suspenders - just for our debate's sake of course. LOL

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


So is that mandatory or voluntary? If women are forced to retire early and thus suffer lower pensions/retirement benefits why isn't anyone suing for sexism and gender discrimination?


Starts at sunrise on March 9th and ends at sunset on March 7th the following year! ;)

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


Is that true? Even though women on average live 5-10 years longer than men?


That depends on the employer here. Not saying you're wrong just that it depends. I wish in this arena we were more like Sweden where they have "parenthood leave" and not just maternity leave. Many couples split it up with the woman staying home half the leave and then the father takes the rest. We probably should increase the length of the stay BUT not until they find a way to pay for it.

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

Your hypothesis is (in my view ;) flawed and I have no idea how to prove it either.. LOL

Seriously though, I fly for a living and get to meet many people but I seldom stop to inquire about their class status. From my observations cursing in the US is definitely an East coast & West coat phenomenon. Note, people curse everywhere but New Yorkers and Californians put it to extreme. Maybe they're just pissed because they have the highest taxes in the nation? I don't know...

However, whenever I hear the Polish language whether in the US or Europe or Asia (MANY Poles in Shanghai, Singapore and Kuala Lumpur) I always try to stop by to say hello and attempt to practice - I mean butcher - my Polish. More often than not before I reach the table, corner, etc. I hear 'kurva' this and 'kurva' that, 'cholera', 'wpierdole', 'huj', etc, etc. I don't know what their "class status" is but surprisingly often I'll hear female voices cursing too.

In fact, a few times I was totally perplexed as I see this seemingly classy lady, dressed to kill who appears to be an attorney, a business woman, etc. yet the words out of her mouth are as sharp and foul as a sailor's lingo.

Note, my observation is extremely unscientific and maybe I simply have very bad luck and always (or often) seem to run into potty-mouthed Poles? Not criticizing either way, just pure observation and a reply to "Maciej" who earlier said:

"...I think Polish people overall don't swear as much as other nations (e.g.. Americans). I mean - when Poles swear, they are really angry or something while American use the f*ck word on any occasion.. :}. There are exceptions of course - come to Poland and take a walk in the evening by a liquor store or forest preserve..."

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


unfortunately I agree...


I wish we celebrated it here in the US. Yesterday I brought a nice bouquet of some Hawai'ian flowers to a local cafeteria/diner just outside Honolulu where I know several of the ladies who work there daily. Then I said "Happy Women's day to you all" and the ladies gave me this perplexed look as if "is he hitting on ALL of us"? LOL

Oh well, when I explained they were all very excited. I think I might have started a new tradition in the Aloha State... LOL

I posted this on another thread but it probably belongs here...

If Women Controlled the World!

wltc.org/Documents/Jokes/WomenRuled.htm

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

Yeah, right.. He might have a different title but he's still the Thug-in-Chief...

Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]


Has Putin gotten that Memo??

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

Yeah, you def. sound like someone from Kalifooornia... LOL


These words absofukin'lutely do exist! LOL