History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]


You should start with this thread then:
What is polands pagan roots? merged

followed by this: info-poland.buffalo.edu/web/pop_people/pagans/link.shtml

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

Yes, it is true, I remember reading the anecdote about the banquet misunderstanding as a child. It was so amusing I have remembered it till today.


Very rarely - to battle (see the red white horse at the top)



more often - for parades:

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


Wow. A fighting horse.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


Too much pain taking the photo of the source, planting it in photobucket and publishing it here.

Don`t you believe me?

History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]

Many of them occupy themselves with posting in this forum.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


And it caused diplomatic blunders. E.g., at the banquet after the Vienna victory simple hussar soldiers, as more impressive, were led to major tables while their plain-looking officers were told to sit at the back. But Polish diplomats corrected the mistake.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


When a lady asks, I will condescend as a gentlemanly Pole.

Yes, Monia.
You are right, Monia.
I was wrong.

Better? :):):):)

May I kiss your hand?:

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


The word wing appears many times but only as a part of drawing, following, slowing. Do you think you can do sth about it? :):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


Yes, but there is nothing about wings.
Actually, there is, but wings in the sense of sides of the formation.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


Iron, stop bashing Monia. You are not better. You also contradict yourself a lot.

isthatu2


Iron

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


According to a popular saying, the pen is mightier than the sword? :):):):):)



Hey, isn`t it time you gave up google translation? :):):):):)

It translated Polish pióra as pen instead of feathers.


No more, please! :):):):):):) Do you want to kill me with laughter? :):):)

Besides, you are contradicting yourself.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


I am trying to read it for the 5th time, but it is only about swords. :):):):)


Like the one we are talking about. :):):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

[quote="Przepych zbroi i stroju łączy się u nich z poczuciem wielkiej wygody: wielu z nich ma przytroczony do siodła pod udem długi na 4-6 stóp rożen, a pod gołym niebem obozując, wielce zręcznie złapany i oskubany drób wszelki na nim pieką"

Oto do jakiej -w oczach cudzoziemca- roli zdegradowana została wspaniała broń- koncerz. [/i]

husaria.jest.pl/ciekawo.html

I think you should certainly use this option.

Don`t you know that teachers and students are having vacation now? :):):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


I will say it again if you insist that your quote concerning swords is about wings. :):):):)


Not to anything mine, but to the rules of translation and of common sense. :):):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


It is a little chaotic but facts seem plausible.


No need to be sorry. But can you provide the source, please?
:):):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

is actually about hussar`s swords.
husaria.jest.pl/ciekawo.html

When was the last time you spoke or read Polish? :):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

For over a hundred years, the Poles are struggling with a problem of historical nature , which - uncommon in our country - enlivens both scholars and ordinary bread eaters . As for the wing hussar , actually about whether the hussars had them back or not. It seems that it is not at all about historical truth , but rather of a myth tyczący bright past, extremely difficult to verify , or even to overthrow . What is interesting in all this , its verification are not at all interested scholars , so people not only authorized, but even required to determine the truth. Some of them even today deliberately falsifying history, acting at the same time for patriotic reasons , in order to build the glory of the Polish army in the country , and increasingly abroad. At all recently organized major international exhibitions, to name only the most important here , such as " Under one crown - the history and culture of the times of the Polish- Saxon ", " Eagle and three crowns . The neighborhood of Polish - Swedish Baltic Sea in the modern era, sixteenth to eighteenth centuries . " or " Land of the Winged Horsemen . Art Poland 1572-1764 r . " hussars was presented in Poland and abroad (Germany, Sweden , USA ) as the winged cavalry .


There is an intereting quote, though:

In the 1970s those theories were disproved. When a film adaptation was made of The Deluge, a Polish historical novel, it revealed that the wings attached to the riders' back almost threw them out of their saddles when their horses went faster than a trot (when attached to the saddle they slowed down the horse greatly). Most probably the wings were used only for parades and other special occasions, but probably never in battle.

while the Deluge movie shows the hussaria charge with wings on:

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

The quoted historian claims that the noise of the battle was so intense that feather whistling was practically unheard.


Quote, please. :):):)

And remember, the story of hussaria is 150 years old. Which battle do you mean? :):):):)


Just like your achievements. :):):):):)

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

Did you know that wings on Polish winged hussars` backs are a myth in its largest part?

That is the typical image of a Polish hussar which got stuck in popular opinion:

According to a Polish historian, a typical hussar looked like that:



Facts:

-most hussars didn`t use wings

-if they did, it wasn`t in combat, but on parades. And it was just one wing.

-the parade wing wasn`t attached to hussar`s back but to the saddle.

-instead of wings, hussars used feathers attached to their shields, helmets, horses` heads etc.

-nearly all hussar armours kept in museums today had their wing gear installed in 19 century. Simply speaking, most were forged. :):):)

-wings were attached to hussars` backs by Polish patriotic painters who needed a symbolic image of Poland fighting enemies. With wings, hussars looked like archangels in paintings.

A long but informative article in Polish:

For over a hundred years, the Poles are struggling with a problem of historical nature , which - uncommon in our country - enlivens both scholars and ordinary bread eaters . As for the wing hussar , actually about whether the hussars had them back or not. It seems that it is not at all about historical truth , but rather of a myth tyczący bright past, extremely difficult to verify , or even to overthrow . What is interesting in all this , its verification are not at all interested scholars , so people not only authorized, but even required to determine the truth. Some of them even today deliberately falsifying history, acting at the same time for patriotic reasons , in order to build the glory of the Polish army in the country , and increasingly abroad. At all recently organized major international exhibitions, to name only the most important here , such as " Under one crown - the history and culture of the times of the Polish- Saxon ", " Eagle and three crowns . The neighborhood of Polish - Swedish Baltic Sea in the modern era, sixteenth to eighteenth centuries . " or " Land of the Winged Horsemen . Art Poland 1572-1764 r . " hussars was presented in Poland and abroad (Germany, Sweden , USA ) as the winged cavalry .

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Kurcze. Mam zgryz.
Nie wiem jak to potraktować. Czy zapisać Ci to na plus że wypierasz się swojej wredności z przeszłości, bo się jej wstydzisz, żałujesz czy coś. :):):) Czy też na minus za to że nadal kłamiesz w żywe oczy mówiąc że nie wiesz o co chodzi? :):):)

Pomóż mi to rozwiązać. Jesteś wredny/a jak dawniej czy postanowiłeś/łaś się zmienić? :):):)

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Sprawa jest prosta: nie chce mi się z Tobą użerać, wolę sobie robić jaja w innych wątkach niż cokolwiek Ci tłumaczyć, masochisto. :):):):):):):):):)

A tak na marginesie, do dzisiaj trzymam na Private Message te trzy posty które mi wysłałeś 2 lata temu:

Feb 26, 09, 19:15
Jesteś Polakiem ?
Czy polskim żydem ?

Feb 26, 09, 19:27
No tak myślałem że jesteś żydem.

Feb 26, 09, 19:33
Nie pisz do mnie żydku :)))))

To było wtedy jak zacząłeś kłamać na mój temat na forum. Pamiętasz? Od tamtego czasu uważam że jesteś wrednym gnojem, zdolnym do wszystkiego. A ponieważ to wyraźnie Cię bawi, nazwałem Cię tu dodatkowo masochistą. :):):):)

Czy jesteś zadowolony z osiągniętego efektu? Masz satysfakcję?
Jeśli tak, to życzę dobrej nocy. :):):)

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Ale pieprzysz trzy po trzy. :):):)

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Harusia? :):):):):):):)

Chyba Marusia? :):):):)

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]


Hmm, widocznie mają takie potrzeby.

Widocznie czują że Polacy nie wiedzą jeszcze wszystkiego o swoim antysemityzmie, który jest przecież taki swojski i naturalny że staje się niezauważalny.

Wyssany z mlekiem matki:


CD:

Sok, biedaczku, który zastanawia się dlaczego obcokrajowcy tyle mówią o polskich żydach.

popatrz sobie ile jest napisane w polskiej Wikipedii o getcie ławkowym
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getto_%C5%82awkowe

a ile w wersji angielskiej:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto_benches

Widzisz różnicę? :):):) Czy już wiesz dlaczego na polskim forum ktoś czuje że trzeba Polakom coś uświadomić? :):):):) Możesz mieć Żydów w dupie jak napisałeś ale nie uciekniesz, kochasiu, daleko... Żydzi Cię zawsze dopadną. :):):)

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


In Poland and in the Polish language.


How about Babooshka?
"All yours,
Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!
All yours,
Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka-ya-ya!"

youtube.com/watch?v=ot3cVY1JESQ

News / Tragedy in Russia - shouldn`t Poland declare national mourning? [41]


It doesn`t matter whose citizens died on whose terrritory. I say: common Russians are our Slavic brothers, showing sympathy would be a brotherly thing to do.

Food / Polish bacon doesn't fry up? [70]


I thought such pans are commonly used in Poland.

Travel / Poland wildlife and similar wild life where you live. [246]


By pure accident, I have run into this page. Some nature lover, a bloodless hunter, shows his pics:
karetta.zdjecia.polska.pl