News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

The opposition PiS party organised a conference. Its main pointis that the Polish report is full of lies and falsifications.

The lies are to diminish the responsibility of present government`s mistakes and failures. Especially, the Interior Minester should have sent his men to check the Smolensk airport which wasn`t done. And Foreign Minister should have insisted on the presence of Russian flight leader on board the Polish plane.


Why unfair? She reported sth that wasn`t true. It is against the rules, isn`t it?

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Oops, it reminds me of communist ideology. Lenin and his comrades professed similar ideas.


The old communist slogan said:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

Of course, it is impossible. Such mad ideas finished off communism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_need


You can teach a kid everything. But only those with a real talent will succeed.



Opps, communism reloaded! :):):)

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Aren`t we all Europeans?

Besides, we should think globally, not locally. When Germans get the contract and earn the money, they will be able to visit England on vacation and boy more English produce.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Of course, apart from newest production, Polish cities also use old trams, even 40 years old. More or less the ratio is 1 new for 3 old.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Yes, it is just great. Warsawians are patriots and choose Polish manufacturers. Krakowians are more cosmopolitan and our Bombardiers are from:


Not Britain but Canada. At least I guess so, or I am wrong and the Canadian company makes Bombardiers in England?

bombardier.com/en/corporate

Bombardier NGT6 cars are low-floor trams bought since 2000. There have been three deliveries so far: 12 cars in 2000, 14 cars in 2003 and 24 cars between 2007 and 2008. The trams have an electronic passenger information system.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramways_in_Krak%C3%B3w

BTW. a tram or bus ticket costs about 2.5 zlotys in Krakow. 1$.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Exactly. Those prices were from the moon. :):):)

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Are you talking about Platinum Towers?

50 m2 apartment costs about 850.000 zlotys on average.


Krakow`s modern trams are more beautiful than Warsaw`s. :):):):):)



And their name is - Bombardier! :):):):)

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]

It is funny but most of those sky scrapers which surround that communist monster were meant to screen it and diminish in the skyline. But if you look at the picture, you will see it is still the highest.

Maybe next year, as Monia says, some new developments will surpass and shadow it. :):):):)

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Yes, Warsaw is a beautiful city.

But very expensive one. People there have the highest salaries in Poland, equal to European average, but prices of apartments or houses or rent are horrendous, too.


:):):)
It is better to see the Warsaw skyline at night:

During the day it is a bit dull: Though for a comer from Eastern Poland countryside it must look like the West no matter day or night.

Feedback / I love this forum - It's so Polish: tolerant, inconsistent, amusing [325]

Yes, but competition is good for customers/clients.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]

Yes!!

The worst slums in Poland are scruffy communist blocks:

and neglected 19 century houses:

An aerial view of a typical Polish city: (photos of Poznań)

The medieval Old Town:

19/20 century and pre-war districts:

Socialist:

and capitalist blocks:

Detached houses district

To see more views of Polish cities: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=265790

Poznań: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=399203&page=5

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Clikc on the pic and read its name.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]

great! Can I visit you one day to take pics of the inside? People are curious what the interior of such a house is like....

PS. I forgot to add - no typical slums in Poland.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


That was a joke which might cause some misunderstanding. :):):):)

I suppose that most guys from US who know nothing about Poland still believe we, Poles, live in huts, do slave work in lords` fields and bring water from a nearby lake or river.

What is the reality? (all photos from Krakow)

Most people live in apartment blocks which were built in communist times. Only a few remained in their original ugly shape:

the majority has been insulated and repainted.

Blocks are usually grouped in estates, among abundant greenery

Modern blocks are much nicer:

Urban flats/apartments vary in size, some are very small, other quite big. People have hot and cold water, a seperate toilet, central heating from the city`s power station, gas heating for daily water. What else? Lifts/elevators in high rise buildings.

People who can afford high cost of land in cities can buy or build a house which looks like that:

Very few ot that kind:

Many of that kind, from the times when moronic communist authorities forced people to build the same square houses everywhere.

And more and more new houses of this type:

Ooops, I almost forgot. If you live in the city center, it is usually dense area, built up with houses. So, you can live in an old 19/20 century old house

or a modern filling

TBC with country houses.

Travel / What is the weather like in Poland where you are now? [211]

Ooops, instead of going to the seaside, we are staying at home and waiting for the lousy weather to stop. It seems the rain has set in for longer and we will have to wait till next week for improvement.

What is the weather like at the central seaside now, near Gdańsk etc?

Feedback / I love this forum - It's so Polish: tolerant, inconsistent, amusing [325]


No, they are stuck on you. :):):):)


Stop pinching those pennies. You won`t take them with you when you die. :):):)

Feedback / I love this forum - It's so Polish: tolerant, inconsistent, amusing [325]


Never! :):):) I wouldn`t be able to pull so many legs.....which is my hobby. :):):):):)


Excuse me, Sir.


This forum is banning for a reason very quickly and unbanning even more quickly. It is great.


Oops, was it the British Communist Party forum? :):):):)

History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [239]

Please, don`t feel mortified even if your family signed the German collaboration list. The war was a terrible experience, we are not able to grasp the intesity of its terror today. Some people just couldn`t withstand the pressure and joined, in order to save their family, for example. They were weak, true, but they weren`t traitors of Poland. Real traitors were different - the guys who actively cooperated with Nazi Germans or Soviets. But there were very few of them.

History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [239]


I found a few links in Polish which claim that 150.000 Polish Highlands people were summoned by Germans to join the Goralenvolk idea and about 27.000 did. But it can be wrong.

At the time of the next census of population Poles will be able to determine to what nationality they belong. Among the 200 proposals the Central Statistical Office is the nationality of highlanders . Table will begin April 1 , will end on 30 czerwca.Klasyfikacja introduced by the CSO result of the new law on national minorities , and our presence in the EU. - The public will have the opportunity to declare their nationality , as well as that with which ethnic group they identify - says Wieslaw £agodziński , a spokesman for the CSO. At the time of the census enumerators will ask us two basic questions .


oops.... I am not a god, come on....

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [869]


Wonderful story. Thanks a lot. I agree completely.

History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [239]

Yes, civil war is much crueller than outside war.

A hero of 1939 campaign who died an honorable death, leading his soldiers in the field. Though born and brought up in Russia, he was Polish by heart.

Mikołaj Bołtuć (born December 21, 1893 in Petersburg, killed in battle September 22, 1939 near £omianki) was a brigadier-general of the Polish Army, commanded the IV Polish infantry Division during World War II. he was the son of Ignacy Bołtuć, Russian General of Polish descent.



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miko%C5%82aj_Bo%C5%82tu%C4%87



Gen. Boltuc's tomb, in a form of a field stone, is at the Powązki Military Cemetery in Warsaw.

Short documentary film about the battle



The description of the battle. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bzura

Polish soldiers in 1939

History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [239]


Yes, I forgot to add a few photos of Goralenvolk which are still available on the Net:



One sentence worth considering:
He was tried for high treason, sentenced to death by hanging by his own brother, Julian Krzeptowski, a Home Army member, and executed.

Can you imagine it? A man sentencing his brother to death?The text about the demise of Waclaw Krzeptowski is not very accurate and needs clarification. Yes, the AK were after him - his brothers (a very large family of 14 brothers and sister) and relatives (close cousins) were in the AK and also couriers and guides over the Tatra mountains (they also used the same route in the 1950's + Cold war to smuggle people out), but he never betrayed them or even their whereabouts.

His brother Julian Krzeptowski held the 'trial' in the family home and Waclaw was hung from a beam in the house.
I am named after my granduncle 'Julian' the judge who after the war had a distinguished career as a lawyer and judge. Waclaw is not mentioned in family discussions to this day.

Julian M Hoseason, 25 Aug 2004

flagspot.net/flags/pl!gv39.html

History / Poland: Her heroes and her traitors [239]


Yes.

Wacław Krzeptowski - a Highlander who collaborated with Nazi Germans. A tragic figure. Some historians claim that by betraying Poland he tried to save his Highland compatriots from Nazi repressions. Others contradict and perceive him as blatant traitor.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]

It is fascinating to see how you pretend not to know the fact that there is still a lot of room between rich and poor. And that is where most people fit.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


Tragic.

I mean, you are tragic.

Life / Rich man, poor man - today`s Poland [80]


There are cheap adverts, I agree

and more sophisticated ones:

Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]


Filosemitą jestem i się nie wstydzę. Jestem odtrutką polskiego społeczeństwa na zajadły antysemityzm. Sokrates + ja = neutralny stosunek do Żydów (statystycznie).

Natomiast fatalistą to chyba jesteś ty:


Z jakiej paki ma nagle wypłacić 65 miliardów jak już powiedział że rząd polski nie zapłaci? I ci napaleni na kasę Żydzi się dalej wściekają?

Z jakiej paki ma być 15% inflacja?

Weź się ogarnij. Jaja to ja sobie robię na forum, ty bądź poważniejszy. :):):):):)

Jedyne normalne zdanie to to że PO zrobi koalicję z SLD.

History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]


Actually, in 1037.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagan_reaction_in_Poland

But Polish version is much more informative:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reakcja_poga%C5%84ska