News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Neither.
But Duda is no better. It's not like they are standing against some great statesman .


His lead is not that big so who knows? He might win he may not. The fact is he is in harder situation as he has to defend his position.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


And you think it's normal that someone has to make a school a gun free zone?

The fact is that I have been on this forum for quite a while now and it was always the same merry-go-round. I was always told to wait and see because real soon people will demand the guns etc. Well, it's been 10 years already- anyone has any estimation or shall I forget ir for my life time :)

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


It's easier when you do not support either side :) Besides my views are so far from PiS that I do not have to distinguish myself from them with such things. PO and PiS have the problem that they more or less share core beliefs. PSL too of course but they have the advantage of never actually being in position of power plus the benefit of being outside of that PO-PiS duel


I never said she's smart. And such comment won't hurt them too much in PiS voters eyes and the undecided probably won't notice. All in all while a proof that PiS attracts certain type of people I don't think it will do much.


Let's make few things clear: all this is not PO but Gazeta Wyborcza stories. While GW might be on the side of PO it still is not the party's or campaign body. Supporters like Pawian may well take pleasure in it, after all their oponent just showed what stupid people they have around.


And? It's still a possibility she was defending herself... I doubt it but it's an option. I'm surprised anyone would care enough about 'voting silence' to get into 'szarpanina' over it.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


That is funny but even funnier is that PSL seem to think they have to cut out the winner (and his much bigger number) to make it look more impressive for their candidate


Oh yes, I'm shaking so much I can't hold my phone :D On second hand it might be the laughter

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Oh my, now we are all scared...:)
Try and see who cares.


And yet left got twice that...
I wouldn't celebrate just yet Spike. Big plus for Konfederacja at the moment is of course that they will get their subsidy soon and that should allow the party to pay it's way for a bit. If it won't be able to substantially increase their support than I doubt they ever will.


To be fair Bosak criticized it but the problem is he is invisible.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Hey, that is not fair, I didn't know you are a comedian...;)


I didn't report on that because I didn't make my mind up. I'm not sure I trust either side. She however added comical element to it by talking about her 'little son' (15 at the time) and asking Kidawa-Blońska to condemn Gazeta Wyborcza (what she has to do with it? The only comment could be 'I have no idea what happened at the time so I cannot judge')

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


And what does it say that he tried 4 times and never finished? Again, even if we forget intelligence it reflects badly on his character. Especially since he is not a free spirit art person but theoretically a conservative candidate for a president.


Well, my whole point was that he is invisible at the moment.
Of course it may change but judging by the situation right now people will forget he is even a candidate.

Btw, just read that Konfederacja wasn't granted a loan for the campaign. Of course explained as the hostility towards the party. Anyway, they are still talking to some smaller banks and count on some donations.

Meanwhile Kosiniak-Kamysz is talking about 1000+ for students now...Smells of populism....

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Ultimately he has a high school diploma. He might be smart but educated is a stretch. Not finishing even one of his courses says something if not about his intelligence than about his character.


That ultimately takes him out of the race then...A candidate with such tiny support has no chance without making a big presence.


Would matter if I followed it. I don't. So that is not the factor. The thing is all the other candidates are reported to do stuff (scandals, signatures etc.) Bosak nothing since the wedding. If it carries on people won't even know he's running let alone vote for him.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

And let's be honest- they cooperate now because they have no real power and have mutual enemy. Once that is gone and different national interests come into play I doubt they will be so cooperative

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

However the polls don't look that good...

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wybory-prezydenckie-2020-kto-zwyciezy-w-wyborach-prezydenckich-sondaz/4prfwcm

We will see. He does have potential but it doesn't mean he's there yet

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

I'm a leftie but it's hard to support the candidate when he starts brown nosing miners with how badly they were treated and how he would put embargo on Russian coal...

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Ok Torq- time for first celebration !!!
Kosiniak-Kamysz is the first candidate to give the voting commission the required support signatures.
It took them only 10 days and they managed to get 250 thousands signatures. Of course some will be invalid but they have plenty to spare. I must say I am pretty impressed. And they didn't even need the help of faithful taking signatures after mass :)

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


You have a point here. If they overdo it it will work against them. As usual. People won't dig into what is the matter, they will side with whomever they perceive as victim.

But it does seem that PiS is loosing it and have some internal problems. We will see.

Btw Spike- what are you making of Bosak's non existence at the moment?

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

It seems the government realised that miners on the streets would be a nightmare right now. They will get 6% pay increase.

History / Saint Virgin Mary Queen of Poland crushes the Red Army [66]


Why I think my opinions are more accurate.

There, fixed it for you. And as mentioned, you were wrong in your description.

Btw, do you think that one has to be a Catholic to be a Pole is a recent development? Considering you put a lot of emphasis on emigration (understandable when talking about recent events but not much more)

History / Saint Virgin Mary Queen of Poland crushes the Red Army [66]

You are clearly mixing both mine and Ziemowit's dosier with different posters. And based on that you dismiss our opinions. Your right but silly

History / Saint Virgin Mary Queen of Poland crushes the Red Army [66]


Both me and Ziemowit are native Poles and we seem to share that observation.


By that you introduce gradation and split. If someone is more Polish that suggests he is a better Pole.


Oh yes, they are really devoted. Most that I met are a really nice group. That is the kind of faith that really helps go through life I guess. Funny thing is I never met a hateful person among them and they were never preaching to anybody.

@Atch- I find your description as inaccurate as Torq's

History / Saint Virgin Mary Queen of Poland crushes the Red Army [66]


To me too. A little bit like a feel good distinction 'i'm the better/real Pole because... '
In reality it's projecting one's own feelings on general public IMO.
Quite awful towards those who do not match that criteria but who cares, right?

Law / Emigrating with child out of Poland [3]

The father is still a father (if named in the birth certificate). All cutody issues are dealt with by family court.
It is possible to stop someone LEGALLY taking kid out of the country.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Possible but there is no certanity they wouldn't get it with other candidates either. So it will be empty speculation anyway

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


I'm not talking about extremism but having some (ANY) vision and values worth fighting for. PSL was alwasy mostly 'flaki z olejem'. That's why it's possible PSL will get the president, whose role it is to be that kind of balance between political power but I don't think they will ever become a major player.

While I'm no fan of Kidawa-Blońska I think you are letting your emotions get in the way. For now clearly Bosak is the weakest and Biedroń may have problems. Kidawa-Błońska clearly has less going against her than those two. Different thing is what she will do with that potential during campaign.

The big plus for Duda is his daughter- clearly smart and ambitious. But I don't think she wants to/ can get too involved.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Yes but PSL was always too mild with no vision always the best coalition partner because they never really stood for anything.

Now I'm reading miners are planning a strike in Warsaw. Huge one apparently. They want 12% pay increase and want the government to stop companies from buying Russian coal AND to confiscate the one they already have...While quite interesting in itself I wonder what impact it will have on the campaign. As many commentators said- putting so much emphasis on Duda being PiS candidate will work against him during every scandal and argument involving PiS

News / Is the Polish-Polish war ending? Is the PiS-PiS war beginning? [14]

I was even wondering if it wasn't on purpose- now this will be main topic and takes attention from all the other things. Plus they can claim higher ground- look, we go after our people too...

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


He has a point there Torq.


So what is communist in him?

Food / Name of this particular Polish sausage [32]

It is good but I like garlicky Wilenska. Yummy :)

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

I wonder, because that accusation appeared few times, what is communist in Kosiniak-Kamysz?

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Possible. I'm surprised as they had the momentum going recently and it may turn out it will be all gone. As the saying goes 'Tak dobrze żarło i zdechło'

Law / Parental Child Abduction (Indian man married to Polish wife) [32]

Exactly. I think our new guest that is not really so new got a bit confused by the 'Belgian police' and 'Belgian court'... Didn't cross his mind one doesn't have to be a citizen to live somewhere

Law / Parental Child Abduction (Indian man married to Polish wife) [32]

And where does it say the father was Belgian?

Either parent can abduct a child and I already said I wouldn't be surprised if the mother did it first.

Try to get your bearings together, for now you just show yourself for a fool

Law / Parental Child Abduction (Indian man married to Polish wife) [32]


No, he is not. And even if he was that makes him a foreigner in Poland


Hmmm, and here all the legal world heard about parental abduction...They must all be wrong...

Get lost troll