Genealogy /
Do you consider Gorals, Lemkos, and Silesians Poles? [35]
@bwaj
I think you consider ethnicity a thing of genetics, but ethnicity is a mixture of elements, even Jews did not originate as Jews as such, they were pagans in the first place and affiliated with their particular pagan tribes, that was their ethnicity. They say that the first Jew was Abraham, but Abraham was not born Jewish, he was not born to Jewish mum or dad, at some point in life he adopted Jewish religion and thus became a Jew just like any other Jew born or converted to judaism; hence in Polish we would write about him using capital letters: Zyd a nie zyd. Hence, Jewishness was not magically held down but created by humans, by pagans (whether Jews like the truth or not, their ethnic origin is pagan not Jewish). Ethnicity is a matter of how far back in time we are prepared to move. So someone born in Poland to parents who were also born in Poland but who call themselves Jews is ethnically Jewish, pagan or Polish? I think, our ethnic background refers to how much of a particular culture our parents and not grandparents (that's going too far back) have absorbed into their daily living and how it has affected them and how they truly feel. What is funny is that Jews think that if a mother is Jewish then even if the father was Polish, it does not matter, the child is exclusively Jewish, well that is like saying that Jewish so called spirit or ethnicity takes over all other ethnicities, this mentality ignores other spirits or ethnicities and it is a false assumption, it is like saying that Jewish ethnicity lives on and others magically die out in the new born, hmmmmm, it borders on racism to me, and at best a fairy tale. Do Jews really think that Jewish ethnicity dominates magically over other ethnicities? Did their pagan ethnic background also magically disappeared?
My point is that a child born in Poland to Jewish parents who do not speak Hebrew or Yiddish and who do not attend any synagogs and who eat ham even occasionally and who speak Polish and watch Polish television and read Polish books and eat Polish food and go to Polish schools and do it all all or for most of their lives and who only call themselves Jewish because some Rabbi said you are Jewish after your Jewish mother, then what can we say to that except laugh and say that the child has an ethnic Polish background and is herself or himself exclusively Polish.
Lenka, I agree with you but Jews can not shove Jewishness into their new born children, it is then artificial, for true identity to form you need a nation which surrounds you, unless you are a rat and able to go deep deep underground and hide all your life. It is unnatural what Jewish Rabbis are doing but their power is wilting now, the only true Jews live in Israel, the rest are just artificially created and think that they are part of something big and united, right! I suggest reality check for them. It's like our Polish Nergal, all his life he felt Polish but all of a sudden someone tells him he has Jewish ancestors and now he is first and foremost Jewish?? HAHAHA, what a joke! Can anyone not see how absurd that is? I guess his Polish pride had to give way to Jewish pride just because someone told him that he has Jewish ancestors, I guess he all a sudden become someone totally different at heart, is that what people are prepared to believe or is it the wishful thinking of the Jews or more some Jewish Rabbis who profit financially from the whole Jewish community prospering??
