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pawian   
20 Mar 2019
Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

Be careful and don't let what happened in the U.S.A. happen in Poland.

Actually, this has been a rule in Poland since 1982 when Teacher`s Charter was introduced. According to it, a teacher can be dismissed only after being convicted for an intentional transgression of law.

I have always considered it a harmful regulation because it does protect lousy teachers from being fired for complete incompetence. Therefore, many people believe that teachers are a special caste that enjoys priviliges unknown to other employees.

pay them by their performance.

Agreed. I am ready to take it. The problem is who and how is going to measure the quality of teaching? Students? Parents? Head teachers? Local councils? Local education boards? All of them? Easier said than done.

Currently, the promotion system for teachers is that starting from the freshman level you will need about 15 years to reach the best paid level of a certified teacher.
pawian   
19 Mar 2019
Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

He's got the big city apartment!

Actually, we have 2.5 big city apartments. Is it illegal? :)

It can be shock to their system to move from 20 to 40 hours a week plus no school holidays just normal standard holidays as for everyone

WoW - Three and one half back breaking classes a day !

Yes, but remember it is not only 18 classes per week. Teachers have to prepare and mark tests and do other paperwork like reports etc, During breaks they monitor corridors,

they also take part in conferences, go on school trips which may even last for days. In summer months they help their head teachers to prepare school for the next school year.

Those on the last tier earn about 5000 to 6000 ZL that is considered a good salary in Poland.

How many of them get such salaries? 10% or less? PiS Minister of Education also claims that an average teacher earns so much. But enraged teachers started the "show your slip to the Minister" campaign, Their earnings are much lower, in fact.


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pawian   
19 Mar 2019
Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

Honestly,Too long a fuging post to be read thoroughlyR E P O S T!

Yes, I realise some members might have a problem. But I couldn`t make it shorter, the situation has to be explained thoroughly. Yes, let`s be honest, it was designed for people really interested in the issue.

You shouldn't of chosen such a ****** low wage job....

Actually, being an old and experienced teacher of English, I don`t complain about my own earnings. I wrote about teachers in general, especially those who begin their career.

Teachers or any government employees shouldn't have any unions that is a joke.

That`s interesting. Do you know many ciivilised democratic countries where such unions are prohibited ?
pawian   
18 Mar 2019
Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

Dear guys, so far I have been having fun in the PF but now the matter is extremely important. I am going to be dead serious and talk about education in Poland, and you probably know the Polish saying: As you educate the youth today, such Polands will be in future.

According to all indications, teachers` strike is going to take place in mid April. If the PiS government doesn` t fulfill the demands formulated by the two main trade unions, the protest might affect the final exams in elementary and junior high schools.

The trade unions` main demand is more money for teachers - additional 1000 PLN, about 300$, monthly. On average, novice teachers get less than novice policemen or soldiers, also it is suggested that cashiers in chain stores earn more. How do teachers justify their demands? The main reason, apart from low pay, is that the job is becoming more and more stressful, not only in result of decreasing discipline and students` low devotion to books, but also due to the controvercial reform which abolished junior high schools 3 years ago. That is why, this year two seperate grades are going to compete for places in high schools - 15- year -olds from reformed elementary schools and 16 -year-olds from old closed down junior high schools. It means twice as many as previously. High schools - lyceums, vocational schools and technical colleges are not made of rubber, how are they going to accommodate so many students? Even worse, experts predict that many students will be turned down by the schools they want to attend and will have to go to ones with free places, even vocational ones.

Additionally, the reform has caused incredible chaos in teachers` daily work because new curriculums are very tight and teachers are not able to fulfill the expectations of the Education Ministry. To be on time, they assign students giant amounts of homework which always causes giant frustration not only in students but also their parents who, in Polish case, often help their kids with schoolwork. Why the inability to fulfill expectations? The primary reason is that the material from previous 3- year junior high school was comprised into 2 last years of elementary school. Can you believe it? One year less than before. How crazy or stupid might one be to have concocted such absurdity?

Teachers have had enough and they are voting with their feet, quitting schools and looking for better paid positions, in banking, offices or corporations. There are fewer and fewer undergraduates who are willing to work in schools. E..g, I haven`t had a trainee teacher for about 3 years now, while in previous years there had been 2 a year on average. This means hardly anybody is interested in becoming a teacher. When the old teachers die out, who is going to work in schools? Cyborgs? Some subjects, like Polish class, should be taught by humans who feel all the intricacies in the attitudes of Kordian, Gustaw, Zbyszko and other characters from Polish literature. Even immigrants are reluctant to become teachers in Poland, I remember working with two female teachers of English, one Russian and another Ukrainian, but that was about 15-10 years ago.

Naturally, many people are critical of the strike. They claim that teachers have always complained about salaries and are insatiable. They officially do 18 classes a week to have a full time post (the least of all European countries). What is more, they enjoy not only 2 full months of summer holidays but schools also break up for Christmas, Easter and winter holidays. Additionally, teachers get various bonuses and benefits, e.g., 13th salary (whoopie, it always comes in March) Finally, if they don`t like their job, they can always change it and become chain store workers where allegedly they will earn more.

On Wednesday a referendum whether to take strike action is going to be held in our school. I still don`t know how I will vote. On the one hand, I will happily show PiS what I think of their moronic reforms. Besides, those bastards are giving away benefits like crazy, so why shouldn`t teachers take advantage of them, too?

On the other hand, strike might affect students taking exams. Also, I will lose a few hundred $ if the strike continues for a week or longer (nearly double full time in a state school, 34 classes per week). Eventually, our head teacher has had issues with the local council, they would like to have him dismissed and they might arrange it if the strike takes place, accusing him of losing control.
pawian   
18 Mar 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

I am an urbanite who has always loved countryside. I remember driving with my parents to befriended farmers, then peasants, as a little boy. Everything on the farm seemed so fascinating to me. Till today I love the smell of the pig sty, stable, etc. because they revoke the happy days of my childhood when I could wander freely around the farm and peek everywhere, play with kittens, bunnies and chicks, look for eggs in the hay, climb the horse cart and pretend I ride, see how a cat eats a hunted mouse, look how the fire burns in the stove and help to fuel it, climb fruit trees and pick fruit, etc etc etc.

These are my best memories and they were the main reason I decided to buy that old cottage a few years ago.

Yes, we also bought it because it is secluded and allows us to stay away and enjoy our privacy.
pawian   
18 Mar 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

They simply don't care, but they demand the same in return. There's no problem with nosy neighbours

Again, the case is ambiguous. Nobody likes nosy neighbours but when my farmer next door called me to say I had left the lights on, I was really grateful. Also, nosy neighbours might be of use in detering burglars. Or, how about senile residents who fall in the garden and can`t get up? That happened to my mother in law while we were away on a trip to the town.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

I'll say and for some life is full of contradictions too.

Hey, Sheety, good, I was looking for you, you are wanted in another thread to show your world expertise. I hope you won`t avoid the challenge for too long? Call there and say yes or no.

https://polishforums.com/travel/poland-photo-riddles-25380/74/#msg1680923

was that unlike Polish villages, Czech ones are much more orderly.

That`s interesting. But it is a matter of taste - some people prefer architectonic order, other chaos. I still can`t decide what I prefer. Chaos implies freedom, while order is often forced on people by local or national authorities.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

Can I contribute with details of the house I bought in the Czech Republic in the Polish minority area? ;)

As long as it is Polish minority area, you have a free hand. :):) Besides, the Czech Republic`s countryside isn`t much different than Polish so I think it will be nice to hear about similarities and contrasts.

If you say in live in Poland then why don't you invest in Poland?

Life is so full of surprises, dear.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

Time to get down to work in the garden/orchard/veg patch after winter break. Yesterday we sowed garlic and onion, a week ago carrot and sweet parsley.

What are the main pros and cons of owning a (summer) house in the Polish countryside?
A few purely private opinions

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1/ Contact with nature relaxes you. Even those non-stop barking village dogs are so natural and relaxing.
2/ Break out from the noisy, fast, congested city life.
3/ Vast open spaces give a feeling of freedom,
4/ You can have your own produce of which you know how it was grown.
5/ Work-out while tending the garden or patch will help you keep fit and healthy.
6/ A seperate room for each family member - in most city apartments kids have to share rooms.
7/ Good financial investment - prices of houses and land tend to rise, not fall.
8/ This is a little secret, will elaborate in future.

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1/ Good locations in secluded areas require travelling greater distance from the city - you lose time to commute.
2/ Tending the garden etc is time consuming and can be boring after a while. E.g. mowing the grass a few times during the season .

3/ Never ending money box - there is always sth you have to repair or buy each year, sometimes again and again.
4/ Farmers cultivate their fields around your place and it can be tiring during harvest time.
5/ Careless work- out might be a cause of discomfort or even injury.

I think advantages immensely outhweigh disadvantages.

All in all, I am quite satisfied with being an owner of a summer cottage in remote country area but still near a big city. Soon I will develop each point in detail.

Any more points to add?
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Ok, you have expressed your opinion. Now leave the thread. Your further presence here might be considered trolling and used against you.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

Don`t you know how to google? Another lazy bones who thinks I will do their duties. If you are interested, find them yourself. I am not your servant. :) Guys, what`s wrong with you? These youth today..... Hopeless.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Yes, but can you apply it in practice yourself? Since you appeared in this thread, I have already contributed three cases of Polish German positive connections. You - one worthless joke. You are too small to be treated seriously.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

Hey time to get back to topic. Women`s right to be free from violent men.

That case lasted for 10 years and the circumstances are ambiguous because first the mayor of a major city was sentenced for molesting and raping his subordinates, later he was acquitted.

2015
thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/221889,Former-mayor-of-Polish-city-given-jail-sentence-for-rape

Czesław M. was found guilty by a court in Ostróda, where the trial took place behind closed doors. The former mayor was found to have raped a female colleague who was in the last weeks of pregnancy at the time, and he also molested other members of staff.

2019
Ten years after the scandal outbreak, the former mayor of Olsztyn Czesław Małkowski was acquitted on Friday of two rape charges. It's unknown what arguments the Olsztyn District Court provided to substantiate the ruling as the proceedings were held behind closed doors. The verdict is not yet legally binding.

tvn24.pl/tvn24-news-in-english,157,m/after-10-years-former-mayor-of-olsztyn-acquitted-of-rape-charges,895930.html
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Those weaknesses will be exploited by your opponents.

Not by you, you still have to learn a lot to exploit sth against me. :)

It is idiotic topic in itself.

Do you mean Meno`s Paradox? Don`t worry, we are not so philosophical in the forum, just a few guys exchanging a little knowledge. If you don`t like it, go to another thread.

Meno asks Socrates: "And how will you inquire into a thing when you are wholly ignorant of what it is? Even if you happen to bump right into it, how will you know it is the thing you didn't know?"[Socrates rephrases the question, which has come to be the canonical statement of the paradox: "[A] man cannot search either for what he knows or for what he does not know[.] He cannot search for what he knows--since he knows it, there is no need to search--nor for what he does not know, for he does not know what to look for."
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Again, playing a fool because your reply is worthless as it explains nothing. Read it again and correct if you still have time.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

And do other things around the house. Toilets are my specialty. Do you think it is unmanly? :)
Why? Why not? It is nice to be with somebody who you can depend on and who really cares if you come back home safe after work. Have you ever experienced such an atmosphere at home?

So what's you opinion on Article 33 of Polish Constitution which makes this thread completely irrelevant?

Yawn. Constitution is one thing and life is another - women still have a problem with being molested/abused against their will by aggressive males. Don`t pretend you are so naive.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

hahaha you seem to be fascinated with Polish pop music of 1960s. But that song about a relationship which can`t come off is only one of possible usages of the saying. So, my version, though from a different perspective, is also correct. So, s m a f o y (you know what it means - stop making a .. etc) again. :):)

youtube.com/watch?v=eeKI8KcPgBA

To match each other like in a basket of poppy seed.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Don`t make a fool of yourself in Ironside`s style. You matched each other in the basket of poppy seed. This thread is more useful than you imagine (I don`t dare to say think) as it allows one to learn sth about Poland. If you are not able to contribute valuable stuff, shut up and just read and learn, history isn`t your best asset as I saw in other threads.

Just come across an interesting article about times after Bolesław Chrobry`s, the first king of Poland, death. Polish lands were deprived of the ruler and completely ruined by foreign invasions. The author claims the events were even more disastrous than WW2.

Who offered help to a Polish prince who aspired to become a new king and restore the country? Yes, correct!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_I_the_Restorer

facet.onet.pl/najwieksza-katastrofa-w-dziejach-polski-nie-moze-sie-z-nia-rownac-nawet-druga-wojna/k8ge2y2

After initially escaping to Hungary, Casimir went to Germany, where in 1039 his relative the Emperor Henry III (who feared the increased power of the Bohemian ruler) gave him military and financial support. Casimir received a force of 1,000 heavy footmen and a significant amount of gold to restore his power in Poland. With this support, Casimir returned to Poland and managed to retake most of his domain. In 1041, Bretislaus signed a treaty at Regensburg (1042) in which he renounced his claims to all Polish lands except for Silesia. It was Casimir's success in strengthening royal power and ending internal strife that earned him the epithet of "the Restorer".
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
Life / Polish women fight for their rights - manifa and other events [306]

. It sounds like a great place for male feminists.

Sorry, guys, I have to take a short break from the forum as today is my turn to cook dinner. I am making pawian hamburgers - my kids just love them. In the morning I cleaned the bathroom and toilet - my usual cleaning spots.
pawian   
17 Mar 2019
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

Never mind. Just cut down on the daily dose of lager and you`ll be fine. :)

Thats all I ever wanted! :)

Does it mean you are glued to the screen for hours to see a positive appraisal from a Polish nationalist? :)

In the bigos entry, they suggest it is a German name. Now, is it only the name or also the recipe which Poles received from Germans?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigos

The Polish word bigos is probably of German origin, but its exact etymology is disputed. According to the Polish loanword dictionary edited by Elżbieta Sobol, it may derive from German begossen, meaning "doused" or "basted".[5] Jerzy Bralczyk similarly derives the word from archaic German Beiguss, "sauce".[6] Aleksander Brückner has proposed German Bleiguss, "piece of lead",[7] as a possible source, referring to a tradition of divining from strangely shaped flakes of molten lead dropped into water. Maria Dembińska rejects this etymology as "doubtless erroneous", suggesting instead either archaic German becken, "to chop", or old German bîbôz (Beifuss in modern German), meaning "mugwort" (Artemisia vulgaris), a herb that was popular in medieval cuisine
pawian   
16 Mar 2019
Life / Mishmash facts about Poland and Poles [182]

Road language
A short flash/a few flashes with high beams (by approaching driver)
1/police speed control patrol ahead.
2/ you must turn on your headlights

Hazard warning lights - (by driver in front of you)
1/you must turn on your headlights
2/thanks for giving way

Roary overtaking on double lines:
1/ I am in a hurry
2/ I wanna race with you.