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Posts by Lenka  

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Lenka   
20 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

You don't have to worry about this.

I agree completely, I was just making a point.
They are simply too radical for most. And of course in order to become a big player they would have to grow their politicians base. One Bosak won't be enough and it seems most of them are bat s*it crazy
Lenka   
20 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

My feeling is that Left side would be much more upset with Konfederacja's rule than with PiS

Considering what Bosak thinks and says about left wingers it's not a surprise. But centrist too. Great example is the abortion law. Despite moves on both sides to change it one way or another the majority accepts that the compromise works. I wonder how people would react if Konfederacja got into power and we had the minimal state plus anti abortion laws with all those heavily disabled kids.
Lenka   
19 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

it does have an integrity, a very rare commodity in politics.

0h I wasn't talking about it on the basis of integrity but more pros-cons/gains-loss. At the moment their support is growing and they want to show themselves as true alternative. If they start to make deals they lose that. So why take the risk? They may lose their face (especially with younger, more naive voters) and the deals can't be as great as they would be once they have more negotiating power.
Lenka   
19 Jun 2020
News / Tesco abandon Poland [66]

Tesco pulls out of Asia:
bbc.co.uk/news/business-51796815
Lenka   
19 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

As usual the church has to put it's fingers in elections.

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wybory-episkopat-wysyla-list-agitacyjny-do-misjonarzy-na-prosbe-kancelarii-premiera/w5lv83z

Basically at the PM request the episcopate send a letter to all people on missions about the election and to protect the heritage etc.
Why on earth would they do that? It's plain stupid. It will put more centrist voters away even more. HoĊ‚ownia is using it already.

As to deals Bosak denies any deals behind the scene

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/wybory-prezydenckie-bosak-marszalek-senatu-klamie/hm57g5k

To be fair it makes sense. They are new entity and will gain more by being independent than by some shady deals
Lenka   
18 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

most feminist I know end up divorced and alone.

Maybe I'm just younger then :)
But your argument falls a bit short:
1-it means they were 'mating' as it was called
2-divorces are so common that they are hardly just feminist thing

Btw- what are family values and how can a party do anything about it?
Lenka   
18 Jun 2020
Travel / Fortune Tellers/ Astrologers in Warsaw [27]

but its your own fault if you

True but they do rely on the more vulnerable. I can see by my Mom how age and poor health can change a person. In certain situations she's naive like a baby. Not to mention not technically savvy so she wouldn't know how to deactivate things etc.
Lenka   
18 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

high quality female

I guess it depends what a high quality female is to you. For example Korwin-Mikke's wife has absolutely no self esteem it seems. But let's forget that (as it's not my place to be the judge of other people)- I'm an atheist with many homosexual friends whose wedding I would love to attend :D I would burn with all the crosses around and my dress would get ruined :P
Lenka   
18 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Here something to lighten the mood- candidates as women.
plejada.pl/zdjecia-gwiazd/kandydaci-na-prezydenta-jako-kobiety-jak-wygladalby-andrzej-duda-rafal-trzaskowski/9mjb193

But I must say kudos to Konfederacja for choosing Bosak. While I obviously don't agree with his views I must admit he clearly knows how to present himself. I wish my own preferred party didn't screw it up every presidential election
Lenka   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Some of the measures (like 'forbidden foods' for packed lunches in the U.K). can seem draconian

I'm arguing (and I believe Maf too) that it's not as much draconian as ineffective. Convincing, not forcing is the way I believe.
Lenka   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

SOCIETY pays for the free meals jon.

Yes, EVERYBODY knows that (caps specially for you as you seem to love them). And most developed societies agree to help the kids in need.
Lenka   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

need to try to lay down healthy eating habits early for the sake of the adult that the child will become.

True but not at the cost of a kid getting hungry and risking malnutrition. How long will a sandwich with just veggies last you? Assuming you didn't have a breakfast and won't have a warm meal later?

Generally I would be all for a bit lighter meals for kids that have some other nutritional meal but for some...

Btw to everybody - any thoughts on the nursery menu?
Lenka   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

But it needs to pay attention to the amount of fat and salt and not rely too heavily on red meat.

With a kid that doesn't eat properly the rest of the time that wouldn't be my priority. Groving body needs the energy

In this case it was a single mother

Oh I know things happen. It was more a response to the perception that it's always the mother, never the father.

then pays for that dearly later on with overflowing jails).

Not even later on . Quite often it costs more to remove the child not to mention the later consequences. The court, social workers, payments to the foster parents...While quite often half of those money would sort the situation out without causing life long trauma for the kids.

Some people just don't see a difference between poor, unlucky family and a dysfunctional one.

If parents pay for the meals, are they free to children?

? If they qualify for help the parents don't have to pay so I don't know what you mean
Lenka   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

It seems we have two issues here now. One is the support for kids that don't have proper food at home and the other the quality of food served in schools.

The lunches are provided free of charge.

It's the kids who don't get that, or even a first breakfast (plenty of kids in Poland don't), that need to be fed.

As far as I'm aware the school dinners in Poland are subsided for those who are in need too. Would have to look into the particulars. If you want to look at it from a poor family point of view I would 100% chose Polish menu. I know one for sure-if I were a hungry kid that didn't have breakfast and possibly won't have dinner I would prefer a warm two course meal to a sandwich. And in such situation meat meal beats vegetarian hands down- one wants to make sure such kid gets enough calories, fats etc. for almost the whole day. If the parent can't make jam on toast or a bowl of cereal it's doubtful they will make beef stew for dinner.

But let's admit it- UK and I assume Ireland have great support for struggling families and in that respect hats off.

Sandwiches, milk and fruit is a healthy, acceptable lunch for a young child.

Sorry but even milk was too much it seems from the menu you posted... I was even tempted to take the p*as that one has to sign up to get a glass of water but stopped myself. :)

Of course the meal is better than nothing but the same things week in and week out? In the Polish manu you have much more variety and that is just one week as it's not repetitive like in yours.

So what the hell is wrong with his lazy ass mother

Probably the same as with his lazy ass father...

did you say that school meals are free?

For the ones in need, yes. Applications are done through MOPS.

Healthy eating doesn't start so late so I managed to get my hands on genuine meals for nurseries.


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Lenka   
8 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

People in different countries have different tastes....

Oh, of course. Even more than just taste. I don't see many parents paying for lunch that is basically a sandwich. Polish lunch in school has to be a warm meal. A sandwich is a second breakfast and prepared by parents.

But I meant something else.

And then the idiot wanted to give the kids sugar so they could do it themselves!

Oh I wouldn't oppose to sugar being available to the kids that are big enough to add it themselves. Many people won't stomach unsweetened tea or coffee. I meant babies diet. Still many people would sweeten their drink!

Why?

Because it's boring and even worse- awfully repetitive.
And if you want to go deeper- as you say school is not only about knowledge. This menu is so basic it hurts. How about introducing kids to different tastes? Where are vegetables like asparagus, courgette etc. Maybe some mushroom gravy?

trying to cram unappealing 'healthy' foods down their gullets isn't a promising option.

Yes and no. Healthy doesn't have to be unappetizing and you can change eating habits by introducing different stuff but it can't be done at once and definitely not in the fashion of an order.

- I love tofu done right but not when it's masquerading as chicken white meat... blech )

That is a funny paradox. Instead of saying 'This is lovely vegetarian dish' it say ' we can try to make meatless meals taste ALMOST like meat ones... As if they tried to convince themselves.
Lenka   
5 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Im sorry if I don't address all the points but I don't have time and the conversation moved on so much.

, here's the menu from the company that provided lunches for the last school I taught in,

Sorry Atch but I would shoot myself in the head if that was how my school meals looked like.

There is also an interesting article about food in schools here:
kobieta.onet.pl/dziecko/starsze-dziecko/szkolne-stolowki-nie-musza-byc-nudne-i-zle-karmic-oto-przyklad/ycx3glz
It's about how one determined person can change things. Simple school supplier set to make the meals healthier and change many people mindset. She became food coordinator for number of schools now.

I think it's important to remember that not all of kids eat lunch at school. Back in my day most of us didn't. I don't know how it looks now though...

I think biggest problem in Poland is:
-water to drink? Really?
-how can you not add sugar or salt for the kid!!!
In the past crap food was simply too expensive. Sadly the more money people have the worse it gets. In the past people could afford to eat crap once a month let's say. Now they can do it every other day

To be fair GB is much worse generally. Crisps as genuine part of the lunch? This silly little sweet drinks?