News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [412]

@BB, @Tacitus

I have a good solution for Germany, guys:

1. Elect AfD to rule your country,
2. deport all the immigrants (including Alien),
3. in next elections elect mainstream party and say that you are good cuddly fluffy Germans again,
and that electing AfD was a mistake bound to happen in democracy every now and then,
4. say that you don't accept any immigrants because it might bring AfD to power back again.

Don't thank me.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


False modesty is not much better. :)


Women are complicated - they say one thing, they think something exactly opposite.

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [337]


OK, the churches were destroyed first. So what?


What Polish nation? Polish peasants oppressed Ukrainian peasants? Because overwhelming majority of victims in Kresy were ordinary Poles, farmers and their families, slaughtered by their Ukrainian neighbours in the 20th century because of what? Wiśniowiecki and Chmielnicki?


You can't oppress something that doesn't exist. Ukrainians as a nation in modern sense are a 20th (OK, maybe 19th) century invention.


... and commited genocide that they deny. That's the difference, you see - Poles know about the destruction of orthodox churches and Piłsudski's betrayal of Petlura, nobody denies that. Ukrainians, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge not only genocide but even the ethnic cleansing, and they do exactly what you do - justify horrible murderous atrocities with those vague "centuries of oppression".

Ireland was oppressed by England for 800 years - would it be OK for the Irish to mass murder English women and children in the middle of the 20th century for that? Finland was under Swedish occupation for 700 years, but somehow Finnish peasants didn't go on a rampage slaughtering their Swedish neighbours.


What for? Ukrainians are not going to apologise for something they even refuse to acknowledge anyway. That's why your whole Let's-Apologise-First crusade is nonsensical.


Unfortunately, it looks like he is. Justifying Ukrainians commiting genocide on their neighbours with whom they lived and worked by something that Polish ruling authorities did.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


As I mentioned before, my misadventure with the calvinist heresy was a very brief one and I am now fully back into the fold of the One-and-Only, Holy and Apostolic Roman Catholic Church. It was a short period of weakness one might say... miserere mei Domine quoniam infirmus sum, and all that.

You wouldn't like those calvinists either - they want 10% of your wages! Scandalous! ha ha :)

But let's not drag this thread off-topic - we were advising our new friend, John, whom to address when he has a question regarding Poland. I think we can all agree that I am the best person to provide a new member with a truly Polish point of view.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


... the enemy of God and the Church, like his neomarxist minions.


Yes, before 966 women were free and untamed. :)

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


Quite the contrary, Joni. Your boss, Satan, has already lost. You are fighting a losing battle.


What? You are an old gypsy woman now? Cyganka prawdę ci powie... lol

@jon357

Oh, and by the way...


... I do hope you meant 1720s/1730s. 1820s/30s were already after the anti-French revolution, when everything started going downhill, and I definitely want nothing to do with the vile bodies of the roaring 1920s. :)

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


Aaaah, you know me so well!


I find it oddly satisfying to annoy people online. But don't be too annoyed. It's all in good fun.


See ya :)

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


I am indeed.

The only genuinely Polish poster here.

Sure, there are some half-Poles, quarter-Poles, hardly Poles, Plastic Poles etc. etc. but if you want someone as Polish as it gets, Polish through and through, Poland personified and all that - you have to talk to me. :)


Aaah, you decided to switch to your 'son of a Brit' mode. There's a battle raging inside you, Jon, a noble son of Albion has to constantly battle against his dark side. Don't let the bad guy win.


You are, therefore, wrong (on top of being an emigrant). Ehhh... the burden of the only truly Polish poster on PF is a heavy one... but it is a burden that I carry with pride.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]


Sure, if you want a liberal, modernist, politically correct opinion. Typical of any current EU country really.

But I meant deeply and truly Polish, with a millenium of Polish wisdom behind, genuinely traditional, representing all Polish virtues and vices, as Polish as żurek, bigos, John Paul II and Lech Wałęsa. That rather narrows the choice, doesn't it? :)

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [554]

@johndean

See, John - that's what I was talking about - take Alien for example...


... a guy who spent most of his life living in a country responsible for the greatest genocide on Poles in history. Spent his life working for that country, making it rich, and his descendants will be basically Germans (with distant Polish roots). Why did he do it? Well, wages were higher in Germany than in Poland, I suppose. Every now and than he makes preposterous statements like "Russians murdered Poles with greater zeal than Germans did" to cope with his life somehow. :)

So, the question is - when you are interested about something genuinely Polish and you want a purely Polish answer: will you ask Herr Alien? :)

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [337]

OK... on one side some churches were destroyed; on the other side mothers were tortured and murdered in front of their children (who were later bestially murdered too).

And we are to understand that it is the side who destroyed churches that should apologise first?

*yaaaaaawn*

You're a retard. But it doesn't even bother me anymore. The therapy worked! Money well spent :)

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Not taking but sending. I'm not going anywhere.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


I promise nothing.

But beware, Pawian, the user 'tnuc a si naiwaP' from the abovementioned thread will haunt you even if I am banned for a c*ntillion seconds again.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


That is a genuine concern. More serious than people are willing to admit.


Kurwa. This is the thread that annoyed me so much that I started five or six similar mock-threads, received a warning from the mods, was banned for a c*ntillion seconds, and spent several thousand PLN on professional therapy afterwards. It wasn't mental acrobatics... it was pawianism at its most scary and atrocious best. I almost forgot about it. I don't think I'm ready for this stuff yet.

*withdraws slowly from the thread*

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]


Well, if they later officially joined WiN or NZW, then it's different. But there were those who, after receiving the AK dissolution order, decided to stay in the forest and act on their own. So, basically, they ignored the order and did what they wanted to do. That's precisely the moment when a soldier becomes a bandit.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


I suppose it's all a question of definitions. By fascists Pawian probably means nationalists, because there definitely isn't anything even close to "few thousand" of those who celebrate Hitler's birthdays. On the other hand, nationalists marched in Poznań recently - they gathered their forces from entire Wielkopolska and marched through the city centre.

The number of nationalists taking part in the grand march was 7 (yes, seven). Watch the first 10 seconds. :)



But Wielkopolska, although a large province, isn't the entire Poland, so I think we can safely assume that their total number is about fifteen (who knows, maybe even eighteen). :)

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


By all means, do so! Everyone's looking forward to reading the mental acrobatics - the crowd is impatient, the judges are waiting. :)

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Oh, definitely.

You know what they say: kill 50 best scientists, 50 best artists, 50 best doctors, engineers and army officers in any country and that country will never be the same.
Both Poland and the Soviet Union lost many more than 50, and we have no idea what they (or their children and grandchildren that they didn't have) might have achieved, I am not disputing that.

But the spirit of a nation is a thing extremely difficult to break in the long run. Look at Poland: partitions, quelled uprisings, patriots exiled or murdered, nazi genocide, 45 years of Soviet domination etc. - and look at Poland now, in 2024. Do we strike you as particularly tamed and malleable? Katyńs and Intelligenzaktionen can only work short term.


We already had this conversation, hadn't we? How likely do you think it is that I changed my mind? Not very likely, right?

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


No. It also means local authorities, and it also means state administration. And when a decision is made to name a stadium after a mass murderer, or erect a monument or build a museum (like the Museum of Roman Shukhevych, for example) it all requires a decision and a permission from a local government clerk of some kind.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [516]


Wait a minute... what's going on here? Tacitus is actually talking sense!

*profoundly shocked*

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


You mean fascists and SS glorifiers! I shall not close my eyes, because they are officially glorified by the current Ukrainian state! Imagine Heinrich Himmler Stadium in today's Germany and Adolf Hitler monuments all over the place.


Yes. Probably about fifteen (maybe eighteen). Even fewer than philatelists.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Most of the time you're spot on, but here I have to object. Rudderless and malleable? So how do you explain mass strikes and the Solidarity movement (about 10 million members at its peak)? You dominated Poland by sheer military force. Sure, some people fell for the ideology but not many; Poles remained staunchly religious and collectivisation in the Polish countryside was pretty much a failure. Damn, look even at our "commies", most of them sent their kids for the First Communion and Confirmation and Jaruzelski himself - when there was a risk of Soviet intervention - led the army out of their barracks in battle order and told his Soviet comrades: "I too have soldiers, товарищи".

Rudderless and malleable my arse. :)


Bring it on! I have my score cards ready.

*grabs popcorn*

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


In a 40-million nation, how many of them? Do they have any real political representation or influence over everyday matters in Poland?

There are all kinds of sickf*cks in every nation - paedophiles, philatelists, you name it.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


My dad always said that economically it was always going to fall. And the lack of unemployment meant that work ethics suffered somewhat (to put it mildly).

I remember an incident vaguely but it is a good example of this lack of work ethics. We went to Bulgaria for our summer holidays... 1988, not long before the fall of the eastern bloc. When we were crossing the Soviet border my Dad talked to a Soviet customs officer and they joked, laughed and seemed to like each other. On our way back, it was quite late, we waited in the car queue and my Dad noticed that it was Grischa - the same celnik - on duty again, so he grabbed a big bottle of Slanchev Bryag brandy (it was all the rage back then) and he went to drink with his buddy. Upon entering the room he noticed that Grischa was alone there and wanted to just leave him the bottle, but Grischa said "don't worry about it, they'll wait", stopped working (it meant all the cars had to wait) and drank with my Dad for about half-an-hour... maybe 45 minutes. My Dad came back to the car (walking in not exactly a straight line) laughing, thinking it was the funniest thing in the world. My Mum wasn't as amused (also because she had to drive). Imagine if such thing happened in Poland today - the guy would be fired on the spot and if the newspapers found out it would be a huge scandal. As much as I can remember it was similar in many workplaces - people having a drink now and then and generally giving much less f*ck about everything. Untenable in the long run.


It was hardly Confederate States of America and Poland being the blacks was it? Sometimes people throw the word "slaves" and "enslavement" far too easily. It was definitely not enslavement for ordinary people, especially compared to the Nazi occupation.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


I posted it before but I will gladly post it again. Soviet army leaving Poland...

... not a single shot fired, echelons rolling in perfect order, soldiers smiling and waving their hands.

What a f*cking evil empire...


Gave away? In Algeria alone there were 1.5 million deaths (mostly civilians) and 2 million people resettled or displaced. The French... it fills me with shame that we taught them how to eat with a knife and fork... but that's off-topic in this thread. France is quite close to Western Ukraine in my favourite countries/regions ranking.


Things were not quite as simple as that. It might have ended up in quite a mess...

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Ask the United States, Canada, France, Brazil, Italy, Argentina and tens of other countries on every continent about the Poles who emigrated (basically ran away, and who can blame them?) during and after WW2. Besides, as Bobko said, don't forget that about 20% of pre-war Polish citizens were Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]

By the way...

... what the f*ck is that??? 2nd Ukrainian Lebensborn Division? FFFFF? F*ck For Fuhrer Female Forces? 0_0


Interesting. Could you please explain to those not as brilliantly informed how did you come to the brilliant conclusion that "Russians murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans"?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Say what? You meant that Russians murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans?

It's September 1st today, Alien, not April 1st.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [516]


51st state - fully independent, always noble, sun shining right out of their arses. Why do you even have to ask?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [440]


Of course UPA murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans. Quite right, Alien!


If only Red Army, AK and LWP soldiers carried stopwatches with them - they could time UPA and see how fast they ran. I bet some respectable results were achieved back then, even by today's athletic standards.