Teffle
24 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
Why isn't it?
That's not a custom..
Why isn't it?
Teffle
24 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
I'd give it a go maybe! Any hairyness might put me off a bit though.
If you are talking about appearance there are things that look far worse than snails IMO - prawns for example?
As for taste, the snails I've had were lovely anyway : )
I don't have any sentiments towards Spiders but I wouldn't eat one...
I'd give it a go maybe! Any hairyness might put me off a bit though.
disgusting like a snail
If you are talking about appearance there are things that look far worse than snails IMO - prawns for example?
As for taste, the snails I've had were lovely anyway : )
Teffle
23 Feb 2011
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]
Wise people : )
It appears to me that more people are sitting in cafes smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee than working out ... the French don't see fitness as a lifestyle
Wise people : )
Teffle
23 Feb 2011
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]
Yes, maybe.
yes in terms of obesity among people over age of 50.
Yes, maybe.
Teffle
23 Feb 2011
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]
I have noticed that overweight people do seem to treated with a little more rupugnance than should be acceptable. It seems to be strongly linked with lack of discipline - which of course can be true but a bit too much of a military type mindset for me.
Having said that, wasn't there a thread linking to WHO figures on obesity a while back? Poles are no better than many others - and worse than some.
Meanness? Can't be right...
I have noticed that overweight people do seem to treated with a little more rupugnance than should be acceptable. It seems to be strongly linked with lack of discipline - which of course can be true but a bit too much of a military type mindset for me.
Having said that, wasn't there a thread linking to WHO figures on obesity a while back? Poles are no better than many others - and worse than some.
swinstwo
Meanness? Can't be right...
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
Yes, me too generally.
Having said that, not casting aspersions but I would *imagine* that the average purveyor of cat or dog, culturally, may not have had creature comfort as a high priority.
Again for me it is not about eating a dead animal but how the animal lived that is important.
Yes, me too generally.
Having said that, not casting aspersions but I would *imagine* that the average purveyor of cat or dog, culturally, may not have had creature comfort as a high priority.
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
So who would eat e.g. dog or cat?
I'd try it.
So who would eat e.g. dog or cat?
I'd try it.
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
Rabbit is a good example - widely eaten but widely cuddled.
Rabbit is a good example - widely eaten but widely cuddled.
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
Not what I would have expected ?!
really fatty
Not what I would have expected ?!
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]
I'd try anything.
I have been much more disappointed by badly made/cooked dishes with 'usual' ingredients than I have with those containing, shall we say, less conventional ingredients.
The proof is in the tasting!
I'd try anything.
I have been much more disappointed by badly made/cooked dishes with 'usual' ingredients than I have with those containing, shall we say, less conventional ingredients.
The proof is in the tasting!
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Well, over the last few days; a beef casserole (with red wine, shallots etc - more or less "French" I guess); pasta with pesto, mushrooms, peppers; Thai green curry; roast lamb with roast potatoes & veg; sirloin with garlic cream potatoes & veg, nut roast with home made potato salad, baked salmon with home made spiced wedges & hollandaise sauce... etc etc
This would be a typical enough sequence for us and many people I know.
The only thing about the above that is Irish or British arguably is the idea of roast potatoes maybe - I'm not sure that it is popular in Poland. Poles may see roast lamb as British or something but it's not - it's just that Poles tend not to eat it - a lot of Europe does however. The "roast dinner" in general is fairly popular I guess but it's not particularly Irish or British - many countries have more or less the same, just not Poland seemingly.
The pesto and Thai stuff aside as it is so obviously "ethnic", everything else will feature garlic and/or a variety of herbs & spices the point being, flavours will be quite strong - within reason. The flavours of lamb, salmon and matured beef/steak are quite strong as they are - or else shouldn't be messed with too much etc - but even they will often be complimented with some kinds of herb/spice etc.
Sure, some more traditional folk (farmers for example) will go for less elaborate or multi-national fare but their meat and two veg type dinners are still more robust and strongly flavoured than I have had in Poland.
Also, of course there are people who for whatever socio-economic reason have bad diets and buy a lot of processed food - but this happens in every country.
To be perfectly honest, this simple human foible is probably the culprit for a LOT of assumptions in many countries about the quality/flavour of food in other countries.
What would be the typical dishes you cook and eat in Ireland?
Well, over the last few days; a beef casserole (with red wine, shallots etc - more or less "French" I guess); pasta with pesto, mushrooms, peppers; Thai green curry; roast lamb with roast potatoes & veg; sirloin with garlic cream potatoes & veg, nut roast with home made potato salad, baked salmon with home made spiced wedges & hollandaise sauce... etc etc
This would be a typical enough sequence for us and many people I know.
The only thing about the above that is Irish or British arguably is the idea of roast potatoes maybe - I'm not sure that it is popular in Poland. Poles may see roast lamb as British or something but it's not - it's just that Poles tend not to eat it - a lot of Europe does however. The "roast dinner" in general is fairly popular I guess but it's not particularly Irish or British - many countries have more or less the same, just not Poland seemingly.
The pesto and Thai stuff aside as it is so obviously "ethnic", everything else will feature garlic and/or a variety of herbs & spices the point being, flavours will be quite strong - within reason. The flavours of lamb, salmon and matured beef/steak are quite strong as they are - or else shouldn't be messed with too much etc - but even they will often be complimented with some kinds of herb/spice etc.
Sure, some more traditional folk (farmers for example) will go for less elaborate or multi-national fare but their meat and two veg type dinners are still more robust and strongly flavoured than I have had in Poland.
Also, of course there are people who for whatever socio-economic reason have bad diets and buy a lot of processed food - but this happens in every country.
my wife likes the cheap stuff
To be perfectly honest, this simple human foible is probably the culprit for a LOT of assumptions in many countries about the quality/flavour of food in other countries.
Teffle
22 Feb 2011
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Difficult one as there isn't really any such thing as "Irish cuisine" (or British or Dutch etc for that matter)
There are traditional dishes, yes, but they are not eaten regularly at all and depend much more on the quality of the ingredients rather than recipe/national style etc. People simply do not eat Irish food in terms of identifiable dishes.
Typically if invited to an Irish home you will get a meal that has the influence of another country (e.g. French, Italian - whatever) but by that token, I guess this being my home food as such, then yes, it would be more strongly flavoured than Polish food.
Do you find that Polish food is more flavoured or stronger flavoured while comparing to your home food?
Difficult one as there isn't really any such thing as "Irish cuisine" (or British or Dutch etc for that matter)
There are traditional dishes, yes, but they are not eaten regularly at all and depend much more on the quality of the ingredients rather than recipe/national style etc. People simply do not eat Irish food in terms of identifiable dishes.
Typically if invited to an Irish home you will get a meal that has the influence of another country (e.g. French, Italian - whatever) but by that token, I guess this being my home food as such, then yes, it would be more strongly flavoured than Polish food.
Teffle
21 Feb 2011
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Don't forget horseradish !
My main issue with Polish food is not that it's "bad", it's more this stubborn insistence from so many Poles that it is so wonderful. It's just ordinary. Some of it is nice, some of it awful, most just "OK".
Elaborate? Hm. Spices used are always the same and only a few of them, salt and paper mainly.
Don't forget horseradish !
My main issue with Polish food is not that it's "bad", it's more this stubborn insistence from so many Poles that it is so wonderful. It's just ordinary. Some of it is nice, some of it awful, most just "OK".
Teffle
11 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]
What?
Yet another 'Poland is great' type thread and anyone who raises doubts or questions some of the wildly optimistic and blinkered claims, and outright factual errors, is automatically branded anti-Polish?
Surely not.
What?
Yet another 'Poland is great' type thread and anyone who raises doubts or questions some of the wildly optimistic and blinkered claims, and outright factual errors, is automatically branded anti-Polish?
Surely not.
Teffle
5 Feb 2011
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
Too right.
I am 100% Irish and have been mistaken for: German, Polish, Russian and French on more than one occasion.
Although you can never tell
Too right.
I am 100% Irish and have been mistaken for: German, Polish, Russian and French on more than one occasion.
Teffle
28 Jan 2011
Food / The most typical ingredient used in Polish cuisine [28]
C'mon - it's not exactly wildly off the mark though is it?
I'm pretty sure every single Polish meal I have had featured the above : )
And the Polish food = gherkins, sausages and mushrooms stereotype
C'mon - it's not exactly wildly off the mark though is it?
I'm pretty sure every single Polish meal I have had featured the above : )
Teffle
19 Jan 2011
Love / Do Polish women talk too much? [74]
Bloody hell. The Poles I know must be particularly taciturn and against the trend then!
Bloody hell. The Poles I know must be particularly taciturn and against the trend then!
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
Love / Do Polish women talk too much? [74]
I meant that they can sound abrupt : )
There is no need to be abrupt
I meant that they can sound abrupt : )
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
Love / Do Polish women talk too much? [74]
Wow.
I find it's the exact opposite - to the point of being abrupt sometimes.
I find Polish people talk way to much and dither dather without actually getting to the point a lot.
Wow.
I find it's the exact opposite - to the point of being abrupt sometimes.
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
OK puella - I really don't want to overstate all of this about the media.
It's not that I think Poland's media is under some sort of iron fist - not at all. I was just aware of the press freedom rankings and the rest of the posts just followed - I didn't even know about this legislation until this thread.
I'm sure the rankings are not flawless - but the relative positioning of other countries seemed to make sense. Also, the legislation was not the only issue that the site had with Polish media.
The whole thing stems from a by now long forgotten reference to church & state about 4 pages ago !
: )
OK puella - I really don't want to overstate all of this about the media.
It's not that I think Poland's media is under some sort of iron fist - not at all. I was just aware of the press freedom rankings and the rest of the posts just followed - I didn't even know about this legislation until this thread.
I'm sure the rankings are not flawless - but the relative positioning of other countries seemed to make sense. Also, the legislation was not the only issue that the site had with Polish media.
The whole thing stems from a by now long forgotten reference to church & state about 4 pages ago !
: )
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
No, it's not what I meant in this case.
E.g. Puella stated "mentioning means mentioning"
Puella said that mentioning and mentioning were the same.
Puella indicated that in her opinion mentioning and quoting were not necessarily the same.
It appeared to some observers I spoke to that Puella had differing views.
etc etc
There are lots of ways of saying things and it can move further and further away and become more vague all the time. For the purposes of the legislation quoting may not exactly mean "..."
I'll need someone like you to do that I'm afraid!
(I have very little Polish)
Teffle in Polish mentioning means mentioning and quoting means quoting.
No, it's not what I meant in this case.
E.g. Puella stated "mentioning means mentioning"
Puella said that mentioning and mentioning were the same.
Puella indicated that in her opinion mentioning and quoting were not necessarily the same.
It appeared to some observers I spoke to that Puella had differing views.
etc etc
There are lots of ways of saying things and it can move further and further away and become more vague all the time. For the purposes of the legislation quoting may not exactly mean "..."
You should check the orginal Polish source of that verdict.
I'll need someone like you to do that I'm afraid!
(I have very little Polish)
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
Yes I agree it's more likely - but it's still ambiguous.
I would wonder what exactly constitutes "quoting" anyway - I wouldn't be surprised if it had a pretty broad definition for the purposes of the legislation.
it simply must be in relation to the quotation of somebody else, and that is the way I interpret it.
Yes I agree it's more likely - but it's still ambiguous.
I would wonder what exactly constitutes "quoting" anyway - I wouldn't be surprised if it had a pretty broad definition for the purposes of the legislation.
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
I am "a fan" of a press that is as free as it can be in an open democracy.
I am a fan of journalists being held accountable for their actions should they print lies.
I am not a fan of vetting and prior approval of journalistic pieces by a mentioned subject, simply because they feature in the piece. Again, I state that this is not neccessarily about quotes - and I suppose it's open to interpretation - but the law seems to me, to refer to individuals simply being named.
What if I was a cog in some political scandal and a proposed piece mentions that I was at X location on a certain night - if I don't like the sound of this or what it may imply I can stop this element of the story running?
It doesn't have to be about misquoting anyones actual words.
Of course I take the point that the law is designed to prevent lies being printed but at what expense?
Swings and roundabouts I say. As if politicians don't lie frequently.
Its pretty obvious we are never going to see this the same way - you appear to view Paxman as something of an obnoxious ogre. For me, he would be closer to a hero - so what does that tell you? : )
I am "a fan" of a press that is as free as it can be in an open democracy.
I am a fan of journalists being held accountable for their actions should they print lies.
I am not a fan of vetting and prior approval of journalistic pieces by a mentioned subject, simply because they feature in the piece. Again, I state that this is not neccessarily about quotes - and I suppose it's open to interpretation - but the law seems to me, to refer to individuals simply being named.
...bans journalists from publishing articles that have not been checked and approved by people quoted in the article
What if I was a cog in some political scandal and a proposed piece mentions that I was at X location on a certain night - if I don't like the sound of this or what it may imply I can stop this element of the story running?
It doesn't have to be about misquoting anyones actual words.
Of course I take the point that the law is designed to prevent lies being printed but at what expense?
Swings and roundabouts I say. As if politicians don't lie frequently.
Its pretty obvious we are never going to see this the same way - you appear to view Paxman as something of an obnoxious ogre. For me, he would be closer to a hero - so what does that tell you? : )
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
Don't know how you make that leap.
You might fall foul of Polish media law yourself hague the way you are going ; )
Don't know how you make that leap.
You might fall foul of Polish media law yourself hague the way you are going ; )
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
I don't know why you are fixated on the actual words/quotes - it isn't necessarily about that. The above text referring to the law simply mentions:
Quoted as in they are mentioned in the article, not that their words are quoted.
Fine, whatever you think. I'm glad I don't live in an environment where the media are subject to laws like this that's for sure.
Public figures are rarely unnecessarily upset - great.
Potentially at the expense of the real story. Scandals could take years to come to light.
You can still write a libel article just not involving my words in the text.
I don't know why you are fixated on the actual words/quotes - it isn't necessarily about that. The above text referring to the law simply mentions:
articles that have not been checked and approved by people quoted in the article
Quoted as in they are mentioned in the article, not that their words are quoted.
Well just because the others are idiots doesn't mean you have to join the queue.
Fine, whatever you think. I'm glad I don't live in an environment where the media are subject to laws like this that's for sure.
Public figures are rarely unnecessarily upset - great.
Potentially at the expense of the real story. Scandals could take years to come to light.
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
You can still do it anyway.
Well seemingly dozen of other countries and their media and laws don't think so.
Of course - but what about the right to publish the truth however unpalatable it may be for the subject?
I'm happy I can sue a paper if they manipulate with my words
You can still do it anyway.
Having the law act only in retrospect as you propose, is quite stupid,
Well seemingly dozen of other countries and their media and laws don't think so.
but if on the other hand you decided to take her words out of context and distort them,
Of course - but what about the right to publish the truth however unpalatable it may be for the subject?
Teffle
18 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
Really?
I would certainly call that a form of censorship.
So, I want to write an article about puella the politician that is accurate, but maybe doesn't show puella from a favourable perspective for whatever reason. So puella looks at it and says "no I don't approve" and therefore it can't be published - at least not as it is.
!?
But I wouldn't say that Polish media are censored (more than in other countries).
Really?
The media reform that was confirmed by the Constitutional Court in September 2008 bans journalists from publishing articles that have not been checked and approved by people quoted in the article. Going beyond an automatic right to reply, the new law establishes “prior censorship”
I would certainly call that a form of censorship.
So, I want to write an article about puella the politician that is accurate, but maybe doesn't show puella from a favourable perspective for whatever reason. So puella looks at it and says "no I don't approve" and therefore it can't be published - at least not as it is.
!?
Teffle
17 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
OK hague I guess we see it differently. Reporters sans frontieres obviously do too.
However:
Surely this alone is enough to raise eyebrows?
OK hague I guess we see it differently. Reporters sans frontieres obviously do too.
However:
This is in complete contradiction to European standards
Surely this alone is enough to raise eyebrows?
Teffle
17 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]
Here is some idea: en.rsf.org/report-poland,125.html
I think I've said all I need to already on this. As mentioned, either you accept the findings of Reporters San Frontieres or you don't. If you do, Poland are ranked where they are ranked for a reason.
Even if the issue is only something like FOI as you have suggested (it isn't), it still amounts to the same thing - if you don't have enough information you are running with a less complete version of "the story" (or maybe not running it at all) therefore, freedom of the press is curtailed.
And what would those things be?
Here is some idea: en.rsf.org/report-poland,125.html
I think I've said all I need to already on this. As mentioned, either you accept the findings of Reporters San Frontieres or you don't. If you do, Poland are ranked where they are ranked for a reason.
Even if the issue is only something like FOI as you have suggested (it isn't), it still amounts to the same thing - if you don't have enough information you are running with a less complete version of "the story" (or maybe not running it at all) therefore, freedom of the press is curtailed.