Travel / What do people think about German people in Poland? [25]

Before this discussion closes, I wanted to add that often times Germans are deemed overly perfectionist when visiting certain countries and may appear permanently dissatisfied with the respective level of service, cleanliness or punctuality.

Having lived among Germans, both abroad as well as here at home for many years, I can confirm that Germans are frequently shocked and disappointed when confronted with such charactarizations, claiming to the contrary that they never seek to come across as either mean or cruel. Instead, they honestly believe it is their duty to point imperfections out to someone, in fact, doing them a favor by allowing them to improve and measure up to German standards:-)

This has been my experience.

Travel / Starting 2024 Visa's will be required to visit Poland from the U.S.A. [21]

I think it's no more than right.

Life / Poland vs Hungary for an expat? [41]

Orban is anti-migrant, who apparently doesn't want such visitors, even if they are educated and speak Hungarian!

His point of view remains "Hungary for Hungarians".

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Once more, Johnny, you ought to learn how to read English and kindly quit playing the Devil's Advocate so clumsily!

I've never claimed to be a Pole, rather, was simply COMPARING how it would be if I generalized regarding fellow Jews, many of whom are in fact slumlords in Brooklyn, transferring the same fallacy or generalization concerning ALL Polish women as prostitutes during the Communist Era.

Obviously, both statements would be deemed stereotypes and neither would be valid.

Understood this time? Plainer I can't make it for you unless I drew a bloody diagram.

Travel / What do people think about German people in Poland? [25]

Germanophobia's just as bad.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

@Paulina,
As a member of the affected nationality in question, I/we realize how hard it must be to hear and to accept the "inconvenient truth".

I too would like to believe that those Brooklyn slum lords are of any other background than Jewish. However ugly the facts, they must be faced straight on, and you simply wish nothing more than to make me look bad instead of accepting what sadly was, and hopefully no longer needs to be as Poland becomes ever more a free enterprise society.

Travel / What do people think about German people in Poland? [25]

Again, nearly everybody has had some type of cross-cultural run in with some majority tourist group, at least once in their travels.

There's the "ugly American", the ever present Japanese shutterbug of yore, the "arrogant, opinionated German" ad infinitum, ad nauseum!

I've found the latter a stereotype, quite apart from any Germans I've encountered abroad...and that's been quite a number, I can tell you:-)

Travel / What do people think about German people in Poland? [25]

Well, while I've encountered only some German tourists while visiting Szczecin (Stettin) many years ago, I cannot say for certain whether or not they are as you claim, susa82.

Often, nationalities abroad are not the same at home. When in France some time back, oh, during the end of the mid-2000's, I had numerous encounters with German travelers and found them, in comparison with my fellow Americans, far more linguistically adept in French than I and usually quite knowledgible about France.

The one detail though which I do recall, was in Spain in the late '90's. While on a business trip to Madrid, I remember a group of German-speaking visitors in the dining room of my hotel. Being that we both spoke the same language, naturally, I got into a pleasant conversation about travel, tourism etc., innocuous topics, to say the least. I then asked how well they knew Spanish, only to receive an odd look from the tour leader, who responded that the others only used English while on their trip, not German, not Spanish!

I found that strange, I must confess.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

The operative word in my post is "was" the norm, but I trust, no longer is:-)

As I'm sure you're aware, in order to survive daily life during the Communist Era, it most certainly included being able to bribe the local officials....by what ever expedient necessary!

Travel / Driving from UK to Poland [9]

Kinda tough driving across the Channel, I'd expect:-)

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

No, not quite Maf.
That's merely a side angle to the much larger question of the thread topic, namely, are or are Polish women NOT more promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees than other nationalities.

If someone, anyone for that matter, can substitute or at least maneuver sex into selling themselves for personal gain, this only reflects an endemic corruption and it's nothing to be proud of.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Admittedly, Poles in Greenpoint or Russians in Brighton Beach are no longer representative en masse of the rest of their decent fellow countrymen.

However, there remains a strong Black Market element in their culture, evident every time a member of that community gets a job for which they are not qualified or appears to monopolize a once more varied industry.

Hard to admit that Poles are above reproach, but try to imagine someone teaching English at a language school who is barely qualified to teach that language. A non-Eastern European American English native speaker with TESOL degrees etc from an American university applies for the identical position but is turned down flat for no apparent reason given.

No Black Market influence there?? C'mon, people!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Back to the topic at hand, you're fighting me on my information concerning Polish and other Eastern Europeans whom I've encountered, simply because the facts are unpleasant!

Naturally, I don't wish to offend, but sometimes, indeed quite often, the truth does for sure taste like a mouthful of worms. However, the reality speaks more clearly than fantasy, Paulina, and simply must be acknowledge.

For example, I'm Jewish by birth and was raised in an assimilated home. Nevertheless, when I read about a majority of foul, unscrupulous landlords in Brooklyn who chase out paying tenants by making their apts. unlivable etc., I'm deeply ashamed as a fellow Jew, but I don't disregard it and blame the brave journalists who bring this to the public's attention or label them anti-Semites! When a member of my people acts shamefully, they should be held accountable or suffer the consequences.

The "sources" you're searching for come from the experiences of everyday people, and no, those with whom I've spoken are women as well as men.

Call me a liar if you dare, I can respond with the same epithet, but where does that get us?

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Heed the mod's comment, Bobko.

Returning to the topic at hand, have you any proof that what I've posted is
in any way false? The answer's a resounding no, so quit playing contrarian!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

I might well ask the same of you, Bobko, but I know I wouldn't get the same answer:-)

Often the ones we claim to detest most, are those who command our highest, if grudging, respect.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Evidence, please?? You haven't one scintilla, indeed one shred, of proof to back up your ludicrous claims. Kindly desist in your pitiful trolling. You merely embarrass yourself!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Oh, really Maf? In comparison historically with the Chinese for instance, those Eastern European women to whom I alluded, were living in a monastery!! LOL

Obviously, no single group or groups have a monopoly on any collective monopoly on certain behavior.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

@Paulina, you are construing what you want to from my posts, that's how your mind works, apparently. Any native English speaker would clearly know that I'm NOT and NEVER have implied or stated that "all Polish women were/are prostitutes" any more than were I to say that all Germans were murderers during WWII.

I heartily suggest you familiarize yourself with the subjunctive in English, as it shows for all who understand English that I was not saying what you all seem to think I was saying!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

"Prostitutes"??! You mean "kurwy"?
When did I ever mention that I believed Polish or other Eastern European women were ******??

I must protest the poster's twisting of words! Or more likely, you, as with certain others from your country who shall remain nameless, misunderstood (unintentionally or on purpose) my posts.

There's one heck of a bloody difference in English between calling a woman a prostitute and admitting that under certain circumstances largely different from the West, women in Communist Europe (including the former Eastern Germany) were forced to exchange sexual favors in order save their own skins.

You really ought to re-read next time and be more careful in your responses, Lenka!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

@Lenka, (including Novichok).
As with Paulina and certain other Polish-born posters on PF, you're playing the Devil's Advocate without acknowledging the (albeit remote!) possibility that there might be just some credence to what I'm saying.

We in the States are supposed to take the criticism or unflattering observations about our culture which Europeans dish out, however when we have the temerity to observe certain less than complementary aspects of life in, say, Poland, it's BS.

I for one have a problem with this line of hypocrisy.

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

From the West or possibly even vice-versa.
@Lenka, my "evidence" comes from conversationsabroad with numerous Slavs who can confirm my assertions!

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

In many Eastern Block countries, promiscuous sex, at the very least, forward flirtation, sold very well indeed, and was usually a survival technique during Communist times.

Today, Communism is but a distant memory, Yet old habits die hard:-)

Life / Are Polish Women very promiscuous towards foreigners and refugees? [197]

Many Eastern European women in general often appear more sexually forward than most Westerners are used to from their own societies!

However in this respect, Polish women are no different from Czech, Ukrainian or Russian females whom I've encountered abroad.

Because of their constant need to survive via the Black Market during Communism, these women quickly developed ways of "dealing with" recalcitrant authorities, usually in the form of bribery and the exchange of sexual favors to get what they wanted. All too frequently, women started out as mere teenagers, later grooming themselves to appear more socially grown up than was actually the case, all this, as a shield in order to act tough, worldly-wise, sophisticated aka precocious or strong.

All this lead to a far more in-your-face attitude towards foreign men than is customary in Western Europe on the whole, save of course for the Red Light District of world class cities such as Amsterdam or Copenhagen.

Love / Polish marriage to a Moroccan [3]

Did you receive the private mail I sent you several days ago?

Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]

Sweden's history is markedly different from that of either the US or Poland.
America remains a relatively young country, still an adolescent buck rather than a more seasoned, wiser man as opposed to merely a man child aka a boy in man's clothing:-)

Off-Topic / Poland - The U.S.A. of Europe [20]

One can celebrate July 4th while still being critical of US history!
That's but another freedom which we honor in this country:-)

Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]

Yet did you realize the import of my statement. Rich?
I was neither defending the right of Sweden to allow Third-World migrants into into their country nor was I criticizing the present government in their pursuit of a basically flawed policy.

The topic of the thread was whether or not the Poles have some monopoly on arrogance, to which I simply responded that this was more negative stereotyping, best dispensed with and nothing more.

Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]

@Rich, as usual you're intentionally missing my point merely to instigate controversy!
I was only comparing the interactive behavior of many Poles whom I've encountered, with the number of Swedes with whom I've come into frequent contact.

Off-Topic / Human colonization of space - Where are Poles and Slavs in it ? [10]

How odd, Bobko, that it was a Pole who first established that the Earth revolves around the Sun:-)
I hope you're not suggesting that somehow the Poles are completely Earth-bound creatures. If such were the case, how then would they have founded one of the best and safest airlines in the world?

Trust you were being sarcastic.

Life / The "I am never wrong" phenom - is it the Polish thing? [63]

Folks, these are plain stereotypes.
Surely one cannot generalize in even most instances.

However culturally speaking, certain societies DO encourage debate, no matter how relatively small, whereas others (both in their politics as well as their social interactions) tend to opt for concensus, for instance, the Swedes.