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Speaks Polish?: Not with my mouth full

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jon357   
20 Feb 2025
Food / Fermentation rulez! Poles love fermented foods [21]

which method preserves longer?

Pickling is probably better for that however after a while they all need using.

in a couple of years, very fresh, crunchy and delicious, I

Sounds delicious. One thing I miss from home is pickled red cabbage. The traditional northern English way is sliced more coarsely that is done in Poland and using plenty of peppercorns and allspice. Malt vinegar too, which of course is sweet and sour.

I know she used vinegar

In PL people often use a mix of vinegar and water due to a liking for the mild taste. I would just use malt vinegar or if I'm out of that (hard to get in PL) wine vinegar.with maybe a dash of spirit vinegar to give it a kick.

Pickled cauliflower can be nice; I'd use wine vinegar with a bit of spirit vinegar for that.
jon357   
20 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

although what is taught in Polish schools is British English

Yes, however Standard English is a better description since the curriculum avoids speech patterns and lexis specific to the islands. It also avoids Americanisms like "gotten' however they creep into speech and sound old-fashioned.

most people after a while turn to the American variety

Not so much so, however some words, e.g.schedule end up being pronounced sk rather than sh. I have not noticed much evidence of American speech patterns in PL unless it's someone with a specific connection to there or Canada.
jon357   
19 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

Not India? I've seen newspaper stories from there that are..... not easily comprehensible

Generally the posher Indians are comprehensible to people from England, although in the media they do often use words specific to their situation there. And have their own English words like "groupism".

The exams they take are all in standard English and they still often speak with the ghost of a pre-RP upper class accent.

bbc.com/pidgin

That's fascinating and the first time I've seen it. It seems very simplified and of course that is consistent with being a pidgin or creole. It reads beautifully and there are certainly people in Europe, especially London, who speak that daily.

I've also heard Nigerians (freshers at a U.K. university) that I struggled to understand. Mind you, some of them were peng.
jon357   
19 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

What couple of places?

The largest places that use non-standard forms day to day and for official documents are the USA and Nigeria.

English is a pluricentric

It's also the language of a specific ethnic group resident on a small island and with a rich history.

Spanish? The same, though Galician and Valencian confuse it.

Poles who grow up hearing Standard Polish almost exclusively.

And rarely like regional forms.

It's probably part of an 'estuarisation' of Polish (imagine every English person sounding like Sir Keir Starmer). Much to do with population movements post-war and a desire (Poles are after all very conformist) to conform.

Think of the first scene of Sami Swój or even those fragments of pre-war films they used to show on TV on Sundays.

Linguistic conformity seems to be part of the drive to become Polish post independence.
jon357   
19 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

Standard English"....

As it is used in England, its home, and worldwide apart from a couple of places.

I asked and she had family there and had spent a non-trivial amount of time visiting them

I once tested a youngish Polish guy. Maybe 25 years ago. There was something off about the pronunciation, a sort of Italian sound. It turned out he'd spent 2 years in England and spent the whole time working in an Italian restaurant Luton.

wonder why that is.... I have ideas but I'd like others' input.

Poles aren't always that good at distinguishing specific accents in Polish. For me, Mazowsze, Podlasie, Poznań etc are obvious. Many Poles have told me no. There seems to be a lack of respect (surely for historical reasons) for both dialects and sociolects.
jon357   
19 Feb 2025
History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]

PAX Assoc

More that than Christian Socialist like the Justice and Peace Movement or the Guild of St Joseph the Worker. Very specifically for people struggling with the new system of government.

I used to live in a building they owned. Mostly elderly and educated residents. They also had a publishing house which by that time was mostly doing stuff like "Recepies from the Bible" or "Pope John Paul and Animals Picture Book".
jon357   
19 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

Seems the younger the Poles, the more attractive American English

Not in Poland. Standard English is taught in schools and used by people of all ages.

English they learned no doubt in school, or perhaps on vacation in the UK.

It's the same. People just don't pick up Australian, America or Nigerian English unless they've lived in one of those places or have some particular connection to one of them.
jon357   
18 Feb 2025
Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

But in school we learn the British standard and the tests are of British English

That's standard international English.

There are textbooks available from over there, generally versions of British ones that have been simplified, however they don't sell well and the main international exams use standard English.
jon357   
14 Feb 2025
Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [241]

unimportant spelling differences

Quite.The spelling differences are neither here nor there really. What's more interesting is speech patterns which vary not only by country but also byregion, educational level, class, sex, and general outlook on life. Studied a lot in English, exists a lot in Arabic and is also noticeable, even to a relative outsider, in Polish. It's very related to something called ethnosemantics which seems interesting but is fairly new to me.

Malt liquor = stronger than usual beer

Sounds a bit like barley Wine (more beer than wine). Old fashioned and popular every few years with university students. I always associate it with older working class northern ladies who drink too much and have big hairdos.
jon357   
14 Feb 2025
News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [694]

getting stuff done at break neck speed

The dangerous period is the first six months. If his plans can be frustrated during this period it will make the rest easier.

And he'll be gone in less than four years.

Americans who can only afford cut-rate goods will
find their lives cut short

Perhaps y'all should have been less hostile to the idea of universal healthcare...
jon357   
14 Feb 2025
News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [694]

a less lurid example would be complying with lockdown even though I personally think it was a flawed tactic that caused more harm than good

To a point, yes. It was an entirely new situation with no established playbook and some overkill by governments acting out of an abundance of caution is to be expected.

About eggs, one role of any elected government is to prevent profiteering by businesses. They already treat the chickens appallingly badly and supermarket poultry products are good to avoid for 5hat reason.
jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Off-Topic / Arts and crafts [147]

An interesting one. By an American artist that I wasn't familiar with until today.

Benjamin Britt (1923 - 1996) - Abstract (Untitled), c. 1950s, oil on Masonite,


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jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

The Democratic Party

Will have a parliamentary while that fat orange rapist is still squatting in the oval office, assuming he does the full four years
jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Life / Which animals are native to Poland? [103]

projects it

Pretty well

wild baboons

Blue-arsed baboons

black wolves which are utter rarity

There are loads of them. One below:


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jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Polonia / Elon Musk tells Germans to "move on"! [247]

He and Vance seem to prefer sex offenders or avowed racists.

They've appointed some truly awful individuals.

But in 4 years they'll be gone and there are limits to the damage they can do.
jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Law / Moving back to Poland - Healthcare [112]

Stameter (can't be bothered to look up the spelling) is a megalomaniac.

Do you mean Sir Keir Starmer? If so, why do you think he's a 'megalomaniac'?

He strikes me as the opposite if anything.

If the Germans would spend 5% of their GDP on the military, every country

If the Germans spent 5% of their GDP on their military, there would be riots in every West German city.
jon357   
13 Feb 2025
Law / Polish Zloty rates 2011 [26]

4.10

4.98 to the pound this morning which is within the range of normal.
jon357   
12 Feb 2025
News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [694]

From the titles, moron...Titles get caps.

Not in Standard English, moron.

His copy/paste stuff is usually from dodgy websites.

edit:

"freebeacon.com"

Dodgy. And nothing in the way of details about the actual 'funding'. Probably 500 zl for tea and sandwiches if it happened at all.

So he's wrong as usual.