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of course and they're both responsible for it but making abortion to some kinda sport activity and use it anytime it pleases someone is wrong. People seem to forget that it's not all about a woman (or man), it's about a living newborn to be inside of her.

That's why, I'm very much for everyone making decisions for himself but I'm against giving the right to anyone to make a decision, whether a child will live or die (unless, rape, incest etc.). If we allow that, it will surely lead to misusing it instead to do it in a real emergency situation.

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says anyone who has no answers.

You're supporting killing of newborns to be and I'm trying to defend their right to live and you call it groundless.

Geez girl, you're getting better and better.

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newborns to be if that suits you better.



look how much it means to some people to get rid of a child. It's not a matter of life of a human being, it's a matter of convenience and expenses.

"I slept with a guy, had fun ... oh crap, I'm pregnant ... no prob sis, all it takes is 50 Euros and you can screw around again"


I'm rejecting their right to kill. It's not about these people themselves, it's about people they carry inside.

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you're entitled to express your opinions and we're entitled to agree or disagree with you. It's just the way it is on an open forum.

Now, do you seriously believe, I get off on discussing killing of newborns? Are you serious? I'm the one who's fighting for their right to live while you say, I don't want them, to hell with them.

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I wasn't attacking you, was attacking your opinion.

General statement: What I don't understand is how some people have problems with people being killed in a war but don't have any problems with killing newborns.

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It doesn't matter, keep your legs together if you can't live with the consequences of your actions, simple as that.

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true


I don't have any problems with creating lives, I just oppose killing lives as it is in all unnecessary cases of abortion (other than the cases I've mentioned earlier).

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better late than never, right ;-)

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btw. I'm a baptist.

Definitely contraception before abortion!!!

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listen Miss GDH, as I said earlier, there will be always people pro and against abortion. The first mainly because they have a very personal reason to defend it, like for example, after I became pregnant, obviously it's smart to find an excuse for myself to make my life easy to live with and there are others like me, who believe that adult people should be making adult decisions and live with the consequences of their actions. That means, if you sleep with someone, you should be aware of the possibility of becoming pregnant and since there are many things you can do to avoid pregnancy, there's absolutely no need for abortion.If you were adult enough to sleep with a guy, you should be also adult enough to raise a child, right?

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Read again what I said above and come back.


whatever keeps your mouth from talking, man LOL


damn, you're really a tough case, man LOL. Of course some people don't reproduce for example because they can't or any other reason but it doesn't mean that reproduction isn't our goal.

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OK, let's make it easy to understand for you. I'm against senseless screwing around without caring any consequences of it, period.
I already said that I accept abortion in certain cases (rape, incest etc.). I would accept abortion in several other cases (not out of convenience though) if it was done in the first 6 weeks but according to what I read about it, "most terminations in the United States occur within the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy" and that means, many of them (is to assume) definately after 6 weeks and this is unacceptable. To me,you're alive when your heart is beating, simple as that.


and I'm sure, most of them weren't forced to murder anyone and still did it... because it's natural...


of course we do and we're very serious about it too, are we, Sean BM? ...

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I already answered it above.


I wonder if all of those who murder people, feel the same way about it as you do and if they do, it must be much easier for them to live with it.

Btw. I'll never agree with you here. The reason for us to be here is to reproduce and not to murder.

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again SeanBM, will you call it natural when YOU murder someone?


There is no set answer to this question. Many people believe that the baby is alive at conception. Others believe it is when the heart beats for the first time (about 6 weeks after conception). Still others believe that the baby is not alive until quickening (16-20 weeks after conception), and some don't believe the baby is alive until it is full-term (37 weeks after conception) or even born.

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again, when you murder someone, are you gonna call it natural?

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you're damn right about that 1

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Don't make it easy to yourself. To have a baby or not is a choice you have before you have sex with a woman. Once you make her pregnant, be a man and stick to it (at least pay for it).

This is not a decision whether you're gonna eat at McDonald's or you'll cook at home, you're deciding about a newborn life.

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What's her choice? To keep the baby or kill it? It's her choice to decide whether she'll sleep with someone or not or whether she'll take a pill or not or tell her bf or whoever she's sleeping with to use a robber. Yes, women have many choices (we do too) but no one has a choice to kill a baby just because he feels like it.

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yes, women need to be protected but it's not your decision to erase another life, just because you feel like it. I agree to abortion in certain cases (rape, incest etc.) but not because it's your choice.

It's like killing Franek but not Bolek, just because you prefer Franek to be killed.

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exactly, if you change the way you feel, there will be more reason and balance in this world ;-)

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since you obviously have a problem with understanding my point, I'll try to make it clear and short. Yes, death is natural if one dies due to natural causes. Believing that just because we're a part of nature, no matter what we do must be natural too is nuts, my friend but believe what you want, I really don't care.

Really no point to continue this conversation. There will be always people who are pro abortion, just like there will be always people against it.

I'm only gonna ask you one question, when you murder someone, will you call it natural?

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OK, that's true, contraception should be widely available and accepted.

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]


look DD, we say "I'll knock your block off" here when we get mad as someone and are ready to kick his butt. There are many expressions in use that are actually incorrect. I bet, it's the same in England too. Who cares?

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no, it doesn't at all. Here's an example, reproduction is natural, abortion isn't, simple as that. Natural death is natural and abortion isn't. There are many links online to support or deny this theory. It always depends whose side is supported in these links. As I always say, opinions are only as good as people who have them.


only because we're a part of nature, it doesn't meant that all we do is natural too.


it doesn't mean

Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]


it would look funny to any Polish girl, I guess. If you always lived in Canada, you'd be surprised to meet a guy who's not circumcised.

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we are a part of nature, our actions, not always.

History / Poland's undying debt to Polonia [76]


damn Harry, that's 5k more than you're making, LOL

(kidding, peace no war ;-) )

History / Poland's undying debt to Polonia [76]

Absolutely, experience for book knowledge, no doubt about it. Obviously it doesn't mean that people should quit reading books, though. School education is very important but remains pretty insufficient if not supported by any experience.

History / Poland's undying debt to Polonia [76]

yep, very true

Language / Burak or redneck? [36]


absolutely