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jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

What 'Polish reality'? There is none, since euthanasia isn't legal here yet. When it eventually becomes legal, I would both expect and hope that the law is strict, as per the Dutch model.

You may find this link sets your mind at rest.

The Dutch law allowing euthanasia under certain sharply-defined circumstances often raises eyebrows abroad. And it gives rise to countless unfounded allegations.

The criticism is often made in foreign media that euthanasia is too easy in the Netherlands. The elderly are said to fear for their lives in Dutch hospitals. A Dutch clinic where people tired of living can have their lives terminated is apparently going to open its doors soon. These of course are bogus reports, but what exactly is the real state of play?

Myth 1: Euthanasia is really easy is in the Netherlands (as claimed by Lifenews)

In April it will be a decade since the Dutch law allowing doctors to perform euthanasia was passed. A patient is required to ask for the procedure specifically and be the victim of unbearable suffering - having an incurable disease, for example - or of hopeless psychological problems. All cases of euthanasia have to be registered with special review committees.

Performing euthanasia and assisting suicide are in principle illegal, with a maximum sentence of 12 years in prison. The procedure is only allowed if the doctor has fulfilled the legal requirements.

Myth 2: Elderly Dutch people prefer to go to hospitals abroad for fear of being murdered by doctors in hospitals in the Netherlands

Dutch hospitals are not allowed to end people's lives. Dutch people do sometimes go abroad for treatment but this is to avoid being put on a waiting list and get certain operations or treatments more quickly.

Full article here:
rnw.nl/english/article/nine-myths-about-euthanasia-netherlands
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

in a hospital environment?? what about nurses??? they are told to do various procedures if they don't they can be fired

Can you cite an example of a nurse being fired for refusing to take part in euthanasia in the Netherlands? No, since only a doctor can perform the procedure. Here are the
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

the thing is you are pushing responsibility for one's death onto doctors and many who are believers wouldn't want to have such a responsibility (cause they see it as a murder

A strange and misleading comment. A doctor who does not wish to carry out a particular procedure doesn't have to. They are free to follow their conscience, just as in the Netherlands and a number of other countries, patients are free to follow theirs.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

As I say, the official figures are given on the previous page.

Interestingly, nowhere in the short YouTube clip you've dug up does he say

800,000 Poles have recently arrived in the UK

Better to stick with hard facts.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

In the absence of this person who you've strangely introduced to the discussion, you'll have to go with the official figures.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

In that case, I'd like the doctors to keep my body (or the body of someone from my family) alive indefinitely. For decades, if possible.

Not everyone shares your opinion. Would you force people to do things your way?

People get better when odds are greatly against them. Medicine advances.

Generally people do not 'get better' from end-stage cancer. Medicine doesn't advance that fast.

morphine doesn;t in treatment doses

It most certainly does if enough is administered. Would you force someone to prolong their life if they wish to die?

Euthanasia is an easy way out, it is too easy,

I'd say its very far from easy. Perhaps the hardest decision that a lot of people make.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Unfortunately, her figures come from nowhere. I prefer the official figures, which I cited above. Hard facts, not just someone's opinion.

They don't fit your 'argument', however if you have got an issue with the real figures, take it up with the Government. Let us know how you got on.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Unfortunately your 'source article' just seems to have pulled that figure from nowhere - it even contradicts itself by the source it links to!
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

euthanasia because someone has become a burden is horrible

That isn't euthanasia. It is something very different.

Euthanasia most commonly takes the form of providing adequate relief from pain in the knowledge that the person will either remain unconscious until they die, or will not survive the side effects of the pain relief.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

In which country are people given better housing from the state when they have lots of children?

Even in the UK which in theory has good social housing, there are still huge problems finding places for larger families to live and a high level of overcrowding in London.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Unfortunately the facts are that most European economies are in recession.
It would be good if you could cite some proof that:

About 800,000 Poles have recently arrived in Britain

Given that there were already 625,000 Poles in the UK who had arrived since EU entry (according to the 2011 census) and an estimated additional 45,000 arrived between the census day and September 2012 according to the Home Office and of course the UK economy is still contracting, one wonders what you think they're all doing.

45,000 isn't 800,000.

I suppose for some people hard data just isn't that important.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

And as the article says, many choose to carry cards. You might want to check the actual Dutch law. Despite the non-Dutch religious pressure group you strangely chose to cite, the law is very strict in the Netherlands.

But I suppose hysteria and misinformation are more interesting than boring old facts.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

Interesting that you've cited a press release from a pressure group that was picked up by an ultra-conservative newspaper. The Telegraph do at least say the following which rather demolishes your point:

This was a reference to the Dutch Patients' Association (NPV), which has 70,000 members of whom at least 6,000 have "living will declarations" stating that they do not want euthanasia if they are taken into hospital or a nursing home.
Other Dutch people, however, make written declarations of their "will to die

jon357   
10 Jan 2013
Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

If you take a look at what critera is needed to preform euthanasia in the neatherlands, you would realize it is not some Alice in wonderland Queen screaming "off with his head!"

It's very well regulated there. Nobody is forced to stay alive if they wish to die with dignity.
jon357   
10 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

About 800,000 Poles have recently arrived in Britain

I doubt that.

more Polish women are choosing to stay there to have children

They won't be sending much back, will they?

The job situation in the UK isn't good and with the forthcoming ConDem attacks on the welfare system and the low paid things will be harder for most migrant workers. I believe that remittances will decrease.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
Food / Origin of the pierogi [127]

You can not bake pierogi which have a dough for boiling.

They still work if you bake them - the dough will still expand - just don't expect them to be light and fluffy.

Frying works well too.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

What about the economic migrants oversea's?

I doubt their remittances will increase, especially since the work situation in other places is bad at the moment.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

He's certainly on call, and does need to take a day off. I'm sure his predecessor did too. As Head of Government (not state) he still needs to spend time with his family. Even the President has at least one weekend retreat.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

yes, being alone in Sopot on a telephone line constanly

Somehow I suspect the reality is different.

Would you really want a prime-minister who doesn't spend time with his family and never relaxes?

Anyway, as Zibi says, politicians do have an awful lot to read through and reflect on. Senior UK politicians have their red boxes. Mrs Thatcher used to have to read through thousands of documents from them every weekend.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

So, being in Sopot prevents him from doing any work? Is Warsaw somehow the only place he could function as a prime minister?

Exactly. I suspect he works 7 days per week.
jon357   
9 Jan 2013
UK, Ireland / Polish cities and their UK twins [34]

They have a lot in common and it's a good twinning match.

Mind you, Frombork has a bit of a feel of Lancaster too, especially the bit around the castle.
jon357   
8 Jan 2013
Life / News on driving in Poland [57]

What happened to freedom?

Freedom to know that the other driver doesn't have their judgement impaired by substance abuse?

So everybody just drives drunk and hopes they don't get caught

What you really mean is: "....hopes they don't get killed and kill others".
jon357   
8 Jan 2013
Life / News on driving in Poland [57]

please don't tell us that someone who is sh..-faced can operate a motor vehicle safely.
it just doesn't work that way

Exactly. Drink driving laws were passed for very good reasons rather than a whimsy. Same with speed limits. Both have reduced the number of accidents considerably.

If someone owns a vast country estate with nobody else on the roads they can drive how they like. If they want to share roads with other drivers and pedestrians, both of those groups have a right to be sure that all drivers are sober, clearly visible, not holding a telephone and driving within the speed limit.
jon357   
8 Jan 2013
Real Estate / Can foreigner buy apartment in Warsaw, Poland? [39]

A sort of stamp duty. The OP should be aware about tax liabilities when selling before a certain period has elapsed or at any time if the flat is above 250sqm or has a residents'-only swimming pool.
jon357   
8 Jan 2013
News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

such as cutting krus

I think there's a good chance this will happen. It certainly should happen.

Re. the currency. I'm not sure it's overvalued and as a major agricultural and light industrial exporter it's in everyone's interest that it doesn't happen. Should global food prices substantially increase though, they will have to try very hard to stop the zloty rising and I doubt in that circumstance that they'll try too hard.

I suspect that the number of foreclosures will increase this year. There will also be chaos after the meldunek system ends.

The gap between rich and poor will increase slightly and there will be an increase in people below the poverty line. Nevertheless, due to food exports and shale gas, there will be a slight increase in GDP per capita.