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ok you passed the test - however that KRS is illegal is an opinion - according to the constitution every bill is legal unless it is challenged in the Constitutional Tribunal - the former KRS was an abomination because the judiciary appointed new judges - which meant the judiciary was an authority unto itself (especially that presidents of regional courts formed the majority in KRS) - also the constitution doesn't say the representatives of the judiciary in KRS have to be appointed by judicial bodies so it's vague at best - the constitution sends for details to a parliamentary bill - which means it is not obvious that the current bill about KRS and current KRS itself are illegal - the current constitution is a dud simple as that

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I don;t know if there were or weren't any court cases after investigations - TVP quite often broadcast new people being arrested for VAT fraud - maybe they are affraid of politicised judges - I don't know

what I know is the case of this man: Józef Pinior who was sentenced unconditional prison time for taking bribes (though only a symbolic 1.5 year) - he was, from, PO


you are a fanatic man - fanatism blinds


there were decent people in PO before, true - they are all in PiS now

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I haven't read the link - i only read a quote you provided - and it didn't explain anything - and I really would like you to post in your own words what makes Małgorzata Manowska illegal as the president of the Supreme Court - your own words your own understanding - please, please the curiosity in me :)

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I don't know where you get your news from but childbirths only slightly increased after the implementation of 500+ - so either the class who produce babies to earn living is really small or other people just don't procreate at all

I do not only lump PO people together - I also add all the other opposition except Konfederacja and Kukiz to the mix - they are all scum to me who just want to be a ruling elite (ruling for themselves and not to the benefit of the people)

I just learned from my brother (whom I seldom meet these days) that he got to know a person involved in VAT fraud - not as an initiator but as a middle man (firma 'słup') - according to my brother the guy said that he met people from Schetyna's circle in the process who were involved in said VAT fraud - he eventually lost everything he earned this way because PiS starting investigating these things

- this really strenghened my bias against PO who are in my view at least opportunists if not downright thieves - there are exceptions: like the figures of Tusk or Trzaskowski who only feed their egos through politics and don't get involved in criminal activities

I haven't watched the presidential debate before the first round so I have no idea what you are talking about - Duda faced Komorowski and other candidates in debates before the election in 2015 - also I read that Trzaskowski got visibly irritated when asked difficult questions from the few pro-government (or maybe indepedent) media he allowed to his 'debate' in Leszno

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people got 500+ - for many families it meant the children could eat well for the first time - people don't have to emigrate to survive anymore

better education? can't be done without better teachers

better healthcare - can't be done without enough doctors who take advantage of the free education and than leave for greener pastures (including inland greener pastures)

cheap flats? have you seen city authorities (mostly opposition) giving up their valuable land for PiS government to succeed in building cheap flats (where local authorities cooperated flats were indeed built)

PO had 8 years to do it all -and they failed - they funneled 150 billion PLN of retirement funds' assets and it didn't help - they wanted to privatize hospital or close them - how much would it help the populace - care to explain

new technologies? are there enough innovators in this country at all - vocational education has been scrapped by previous governments and now firms are hard pressed to find suitably trained work force - have you heard of Łągiewka and his inertia dissipating mechanism - Polish patent authorities denied him a patent for years - this is how centralized beaurocratic innovation works and acts

in all of this areas there is a significant resistence of the previous system - what about the demands for raising the salaries of policemen, teachers, nurses and young doctors (all fulfilled) - it all cost money - and guess what it didn't change much

it's all a rant - and I understand some of your points - maybe PiS are not the brightest people on earth - maybe they have failed with some points - maybe they lack vision in some areas - but I believe they acted in the interest of the average Pole and not the elites who exploited the population - I believe the injection of money into the market lead to greatly limited unemployment - and I doubt PO would fare any better (because they served the elite not the people)

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you probably don't even understand what you posted and - it is utter nonsense anyway - simple test: could you explain how Manowska is illegal in your own words

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nice trick beacause there is no way to verify it - but look at the table

during PO rule

budget income: incl indirect taxes: incl VAT

2008 - 253 bln 153 101
2009 - 274 155 99
2010 - 250 165 108
2011 - 277 180 120
2012 - 287 182 120
2013 - 279 175 113
2014 - 283 187 124
2015 - 289 187 123
2016 - 314 193 126
2017 - 350 226 156
2018 - 380 249 175
2019 - 400 255 183

I guess you will brush off the numbers like you do - właściwie nie wiem po co to robię bo to jak grochem o ścianę

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You are welcome. Best wishes :)

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yes this was a breach of constitution - show me more - I want more
you can evade answering my questions in the other thread - I can choose to have an amnesia :P

btw why did the Constitutional Tribunal choose to examine the bill which appointed 2 unlawful judges into the Tribunal only after new Sejm got elected - what took them so long since June?

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because they aren't particularly leechy - the alleged leeches - and how about you mafketis - can you count?

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a little - heh you're funneh - 10 per cent of children in 2014 lived in homesteads with income per capita lower than minimum that allows existence - unemployment in 2014 was 10,4 per cent


according to what - if it is not stated in the law then it isn't in the law

I can see how it is a breach of Constitution to you - but to me it is highly debateable

so let's leave it behind and be so kind.. and name some other instances

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- there was a strong systemic bias against 'right wing' parties individuals etc all the way back to 90's - then there was decided that (mostly) leading judges apoint new judges - and the bias just perpetuated -


I'm not in favour of ban on Sunday trading - see I'm not a blind PiS lover - the thing is other options are not really options for me

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the law doesn't say he is supposed to do it immediately - or rather show me the passus in the constitution that says so

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@gumishu


you know it all so well - name a couple - what's the problem

I want you to name it - not a link

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you say it in a country where the Constitutional Tribual itself broke the rules of logic, reason and decency (see the ruling on transfering real money from the retirement funds into virtual ZUS accounts)


and in your opinion courts have always been just and never favoured anyone - either you have a short memory or you just haven't lived in Poland in 1990's and 2000's

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Poland was never the leader of Central European countries - I don't know where do you get those ideas from - my wild guess is from the mouth of Tusk


as far as I know Duda broke constitution only once - but please name some other instances -

can I count you among those who could count starting from today?

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could you expand on it

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fondness for autocratic solutions? namely?

btw you didn't bother to answer me in a different thread

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why don't you like PiS cms? you can elaborate but a quick answer would be fine

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man you simpy cannot count - the budget income in 2015 was 289 billion PLN - and in 2018 380 billion PLN - an increase of 100 billion in a span of three years - how do you explain that? - the fact is easy to check even for you (so I won't attach a link)

the latest data for 2019 say the budget income was 400 billion) - just think for yourself sometimes and shed the bias then we could probably talk sense

ok - I was a little harsh on you - you probably can count - and you probably can read - just choose to read what strengthens you bias


the promises made by Trzaskowskis can cost 50 billion according to Konfederacja - do you think it can be covered somehow by mythical corruption among PiS - just think for a moment 50 billion - this is one eightth of the current budget income - you really think this is real (anything in it is real)? - and you call PiS irresoponsible and find excuses for your own accepting of 500+

you just choose to believe the wrong people pawian - people who in my experience lied, manipulated - and made false promises just to get elected - I never trusted them since 2005 the year I got interested in Polish politics again - and I really deplore the fact that you trust these people

doesn't it make you think that it was during PO rule in Warsaw that people were evicted from their appartments because of fraud aquisition of buildings - doesn't it disturb you that a woman was eventually murdered because of this - I just don't believe you don't connect the dots and say - man these people are evil and rotten

it looks like you lost arguments - I will give you a hint: they must have helped the budget by printing money in 2018 :) - seems plausible, no?

this is how people react to a cognitive dissonance that shatters what they believe to be true (or rather their ego)

so pawian - where did PiS get all those 100 billion PLN from ? from the economic growth (all hail the mighty economic geniuses from PiS) ? from inflation? from printing money?

I will pester you forever whith this thread :) :P

do you already regret starting this thread??? :):):)

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70 million pales in comparison with 40 billion saved from VAT extortion

money.pl/podatki/uszczelnienie-vat-tylko-na-papierze-mafie-nadal-bezkarne-6483075973208193a.html

the article you posted just juggles numbers not explaining anything - jak dla mnie to on może być całkowicie wyssany z palca

and you don't even know what VAT extortion means

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I have a question for you - Trzaskowski has promised that nothing that PiS gave to the people will be taken from them - he even promised more:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/wybory-2020-program-rafala-trzaskowskiego-kandydat-koalicji-obywatelskiej-nie-przedstawia-kosztow-kluczowych-obietnic-6530276727649921a

what do you think about it - why do you support someone who is - in your opinion - ruining the finances of the country even more than PiS - or maybe you just treat it as a ruse to gain power and then completely turn around and you acknowledge and accept it and approve of it


the gap you mention is not caused by VAT fraud (virtually an extortion from the state) but from lower level of crime in black/gray market like the one caused by car mechanics or builders not issueing invoices - I bet they are working to tighten the grip on evading taxation that way - but there are priorities


no you're not funny at all - you live in an information bubble

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I don't consider PiS leeches at all, maybe there are some irregularities among them but in my opinion it's not comparable with the situation during PO-PSL rule

- the leeches as you call them put an end to the VAT fraud and smuggling of fuels into Poland for the most part - the two easily covered the original 500+ programme


even if some people think of it as a scandal, there was nothing unlawful about it - and in my opinion those people deserved it - also I think PO-PSL just received much more in unlawful manner (think corruption)

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how do you know they increased if during the time of PSL-PO they went unreported by the media you followed (if you followed any)


it was very low from you, ya know

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Duda used veto 9 times during his presidency - in comparison Komorowski used veto only 4 times - he is however not known as a PO's pen - one could wonder why

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sorry I misread you previous post - I thought you wrote about VAT fraud and the the culprits lost their possessions - I'm not in the mood to read the article you linked to be honest

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a source on that please?

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I would sew for myself
a white handkerchief
And for my little brother
a beautiful shirt

My little brother would wear
This beautifull shirt
He would pray with me
For our mom

Because she , in such young age
Taught me how to sew
Because I sew him a shirt so beautifully

The last stanza is difficult to divide into verses because in Polish we don't have a rigid word order in a sentence


at such a young age* - my English is not proficient I guess

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you are genius, Pam - nothing short of

an I'm not being ironic

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trąba simply - the main meaning is trumpet - in a figurative meaning it can mean shithead