Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Are you an introvert perhaps? 🤔
I also have limited patience and energy for hanging out with them.
Are you an introvert perhaps? 🤔
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Ah, OK, it sounded like they don't like spending time with them at all.
Oh, but do tell :))
Well, I guess then it's only fair that women will care about men's goals only if they align with what women also want :)))
I really did not enjoy spending alone time with them, for extended periods of time. Like a vacation for example.
Regarding why men don't like "hanging out" with women, is because that's what they do anyway, the rest of the time.
Ah, OK, it sounded like they don't like spending time with them at all.
I feel it's somewhat unnecessary to explain why men don't like hanging out with kids for more than a few hours at a time.
Oh, but do tell :))
Men care about womens goals when they align with what men also want.
Well, I guess then it's only fair that women will care about men's goals only if they align with what women also want :)))
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Why the hell do men get married then?
You just wrote that they don't care about women's career goals and their wants.
lol
PolAm, sorry, but you have some narrow minded views, in my opinion... Listen, you have your traditional wife, who likes being traditional. Good for you - if that's your thing :) But there are people with different views than yours, including men. So, you keep your traditional wife, take good care of her and your kids (if you have any) and let other people live the way they want :)
nobody likes spending time with their wife or their kids.
Why the hell do men get married then?
Men care about women and their goals.
You just wrote that they don't care about women's career goals and their wants.
no real woman can spend a life with a man who believes in feminism
lol
PolAm, sorry, but you have some narrow minded views, in my opinion... Listen, you have your traditional wife, who likes being traditional. Good for you - if that's your thing :) But there are people with different views than yours, including men. So, you keep your traditional wife, take good care of her and your kids (if you have any) and let other people live the way they want :)
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Another bullsh1t. Are all men willing to die for their families? Defenitely not. I think that actually women are probably more likely to risk their life, die or get raped instead of their kids (since, as men like to stress - they have stronger bond with their kids, right?). I know about an instance when a mother in my region offered herself instead of her young daughters to be raped by Soviet soldiers. It happened in front of her husband. Did the husband try to stop the rapists? Well, obviously not - he'd get killed.
Similar thing happened in Ukraine during this invasion (minus husband).
Exactly. Especially that men tend to die earlier and lead less healthy lifestyles.
Men are willing to die for their families, women simply are not.
Another bullsh1t. Are all men willing to die for their families? Defenitely not. I think that actually women are probably more likely to risk their life, die or get raped instead of their kids (since, as men like to stress - they have stronger bond with their kids, right?). I know about an instance when a mother in my region offered herself instead of her young daughters to be raped by Soviet soldiers. It happened in front of her husband. Did the husband try to stop the rapists? Well, obviously not - he'd get killed.
Similar thing happened in Ukraine during this invasion (minus husband).
Being able to survive after husband disappears is caring for your family. Who will support the kids if the women won't think about that?
Exactly. Especially that men tend to die earlier and lead less healthy lifestyles.
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Well, you know, if you get married you should care about what your spouse wants, actually. You should care about your partner in general (and not only whether there's food on the table). At least that's how I see a normal, healthy romantic relationship - it's when both people care about what the other person wants, feels, cares about, etc. That goes both for men and women.
No, that's bullsh1t that men are telling themselves to feel better about themselves, I guess.
Men and women boxing in one ring doesn't affect birth rates. And that's what you men are so concerned about, right? You'd like those birth rates to be increased or not?
lol
You think men should GAF about your career goals and your wants
Well, you know, if you get married you should care about what your spouse wants, actually. You should care about your partner in general (and not only whether there's food on the table). At least that's how I see a normal, healthy romantic relationship - it's when both people care about what the other person wants, feels, cares about, etc. That goes both for men and women.
Women are opportunists and love conditionally and men love unconditionally.
No, that's bullsh1t that men are telling themselves to feel better about themselves, I guess.
Maybe women should be eqaul to men in the boxing ring too?
Men and women boxing in one ring doesn't affect birth rates. And that's what you men are so concerned about, right? You'd like those birth rates to be increased or not?
so they can spread their legs and be fulfilled.
lol
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
What a load of mega bullsh1t (that I've read quite a few times in other places already, btw). You guys really like to idealise yourself and bring women down, don't you lol
🤮
Btw, this is one of the most untrue and unfair stereotypes that men are propagating about women, imho (and one of the most hilarious delusions of men about themselves lol).
Better put: Men love idealistically, women love opportunistically....
What a load of mega bullsh1t (that I've read quite a few times in other places already, btw). You guys really like to idealise yourself and bring women down, don't you lol
🤮
Btw, this is one of the most untrue and unfair stereotypes that men are propagating about women, imho (and one of the most hilarious delusions of men about themselves lol).
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
Sorry, but this is nonsense :) One doesn't exclude the other. And in Poland usually the salaries of both spouses contribute to the family budget.
We'll see.
Gee, PolAm, I didn't know that men cleaning up after themselves, putting dirty dishes into a dishwasher or cooking a meal "defy the laws of nature" LOL I guess being single is a very "unnatural" state for men, because they have to do all those things by themselves then ;D Oh, and btw, since taking care of their own children is so "unnatural" for men too, then I guess they shouldn't be getting kids after divorce, right?? 🙄
It looks like it's the other way around.
Women, they are generally more concerned with survival without a husband, or after a husband than actually having a family.
Sorry, but this is nonsense :) One doesn't exclude the other. And in Poland usually the salaries of both spouses contribute to the family budget.
men will never change their minds on this
We'll see.
women want to have some social construct that simply defies the laws of nature.
Gee, PolAm, I didn't know that men cleaning up after themselves, putting dirty dishes into a dishwasher or cooking a meal "defy the laws of nature" LOL I guess being single is a very "unnatural" state for men, because they have to do all those things by themselves then ;D Oh, and btw, since taking care of their own children is so "unnatural" for men too, then I guess they shouldn't be getting kids after divorce, right?? 🙄
Men love their women. Women use their men.
It looks like it's the other way around.
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
It won't change anything - if you care, don't care, if it means anything to men or not. We're getting an education and jobs in order to secure ourselves and kids and not to impress you or whatever :)
Yeah, I was one of such kids - living in one room with two parents and a brother. No privacy and trying to fall asleep in the midst of incredibly loud snoring in the evening and a stench of digested beer knowing that I have to get up in the morning to school, doing my homework in the kitchen to have some peace and quiet, etc. I wouldn't do this to my own kids. Sorry for me having "expectations" (that's directed at male a-holes, obviously).
Men dont care that you dont care. (...) So, have your career, your money and all that. Just know that to men it doesnt mean anything.
It won't change anything - if you care, don't care, if it means anything to men or not. We're getting an education and jobs in order to secure ourselves and kids and not to impress you or whatever :)
People lived like sardines
Yeah, I was one of such kids - living in one room with two parents and a brother. No privacy and trying to fall asleep in the midst of incredibly loud snoring in the evening and a stench of digested beer knowing that I have to get up in the morning to school, doing my homework in the kitchen to have some peace and quiet, etc. I wouldn't do this to my own kids. Sorry for me having "expectations" (that's directed at male a-holes, obviously).
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
I guess that's a good point. Still - more women are graduating from universities in the US than men, just like in Poland.
What a bizarre nonsense lol You sound like you don't know anything about Poland. Plenty of women who work in Poland have kids. My mother worked most of her adult life too. And, as you can see, I was born, I'm here - the same with my brother lol :)))
. There are less barriers to education in Poland and that is a big advantage.
I guess that's a good point. Still - more women are graduating from universities in the US than men, just like in Poland.
So a majority of women in Poland work. Good for them. A majority of them are not having children and their careers are more important that having a family.
What a bizarre nonsense lol You sound like you don't know anything about Poland. Plenty of women who work in Poland have kids. My mother worked most of her adult life too. And, as you can see, I was born, I'm here - the same with my brother lol :)))
Paulina
29 Mar 2024
Life / Neoliberalism and family formation in Poland [100]
And you're saying that based on what?
Well, if you mean the number of women studying and graduating from universities then the same can be said about the US. And not only those two countries:
nber.org/digest/jan07/why-do-women-outnumber-men-college
"The female share of college students has expanded in all 17 member-nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in recent decades, so much so that women now outnumber men in college in almost all rich nations."
There's no gender pay equality in Poland. It's just the gap is smaller than in some countries.
Polish women in general are far better educated than American women.
And you're saying that based on what?
And better educated than most Polish men.
Well, if you mean the number of women studying and graduating from universities then the same can be said about the US. And not only those two countries:
nber.org/digest/jan07/why-do-women-outnumber-men-college
"The female share of college students has expanded in all 17 member-nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in recent decades, so much so that women now outnumber men in college in almost all rich nations."
Pay equality is not surprising here in my opinion.
There's no gender pay equality in Poland. It's just the gap is smaller than in some countries.
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]
Pumpkin, but it didn't invade the Soviet Union together with the Nazis and didn't partition it between themselves and didn't send the Soviets to f*cking gulags and didn't deport them from their homes, didn't execute them and lie about it for decades, etc.
Oh, and you added an unrelated mention of "nazi genocide perpetrators celebrated as national heroes", because you want peace on the forum so bad, sure :))) Btw, this is why I decided to remind you of what the Soviets did in 1939 (and what today's RuSSians are defending and downplaying, just like you did).
Hey, Poland also had a non-aggression pact with the III Reich (1934-39),
Pumpkin, but it didn't invade the Soviet Union together with the Nazis and didn't partition it between themselves and didn't send the Soviets to f*cking gulags and didn't deport them from their homes, didn't execute them and lie about it for decades, etc.
but you always have to find quarrel in a straw, Paulina :-/
Oh, and you added an unrelated mention of "nazi genocide perpetrators celebrated as national heroes", because you want peace on the forum so bad, sure :))) Btw, this is why I decided to remind you of what the Soviets did in 1939 (and what today's RuSSians are defending and downplaying, just like you did).
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Well, yeah, exactly...
You may start caring if one of those "products" from "Macierewicz's officers' factory" will become your commander though... :)
May or may not be connected with his personal situation.
Well, yeah, exactly...
I don't know, and I don't care - as I said, professional mercenaries don't win wars - we, humble reservists, do. :)
You may start caring if one of those "products" from "Macierewicz's officers' factory" will become your commander though... :)
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]
Sure... lol
as the symbol of common Polish-Russian struggle against nazism
Sure... lol
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
@Torq, that may depend on your cousins' political views though and/or on the fact that he got promoted and got a pay rise during PiS rule, for example :)) You really don't know what was happening with the army during PiS rule?:
oko.press/fabryki-oficerow-czyli-desant-macierewicza-wojsko-polskie-raport-oko-press-o-czystkach-armii
businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/pis-doprowadzilo-do-gangreny-w-polskiej-armii-generalow-sie-nie-ustawia/rs3l01x
@Torq, that may depend on your cousins' political views though and/or on the fact that he got promoted and got a pay rise during PiS rule, for example :)) You really don't know what was happening with the army during PiS rule?:
oko.press/fabryki-oficerow-czyli-desant-macierewicza-wojsko-polskie-raport-oko-press-o-czystkach-armii
businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/pis-doprowadzilo-do-gangreny-w-polskiej-armii-generalow-sie-nie-ustawia/rs3l01x
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
Yup.
Yes, that's a possible reason - apparently lately there have been more accidents in the US army too. Although I'd worry about the quality of instructors, etc. after 8 years of PiS rule, to be honest - PiS was messing with the army quite a lot... 🤔
The Ministry of National Defence?
Yup.
Presumably they're doing some particularly intensive training due to current circumstances.
Yes, that's a possible reason - apparently lately there have been more accidents in the US army too. Although I'd worry about the quality of instructors, etc. after 8 years of PiS rule, to be honest - PiS was messing with the army quite a lot... 🤔
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
Life / Fresh water fishing in Poland [31]
I'm not sure what you mean by "much"... Obviously people are doing freshwater fishing in Poland... :) It's apparently one of the most popular hobbies and there are roughly 2 million anglers in Poland.
No idea. I had a boyfriend from one of the Polish port cities who was into fish and maritime stuff, I even translated some things for him into English, but I can't remember any of it lol
I know though that if you're a Polish citizen older than 14 years old you have to have the "angler's card" (fishing licence?) and know which fish you can fish, how big, where, when, etc. You have to take an exam in order to get this card and you have to have it on you when you're fishing.
If you're a foreigner who's only temporarily on the territory of Poland, you don't have to have the "angler's card" though.
The Masurian Lake District would be my guess.
When the weather is appropriate is there much freshwater fishing in Poland?
I'm not sure what you mean by "much"... Obviously people are doing freshwater fishing in Poland... :) It's apparently one of the most popular hobbies and there are roughly 2 million anglers in Poland.
And what sorts of fish?
No idea. I had a boyfriend from one of the Polish port cities who was into fish and maritime stuff, I even translated some things for him into English, but I can't remember any of it lol
I know though that if you're a Polish citizen older than 14 years old you have to have the "angler's card" (fishing licence?) and know which fish you can fish, how big, where, when, etc. You have to take an exam in order to get this card and you have to have it on you when you're fishing.
If you're a foreigner who's only temporarily on the territory of Poland, you don't have to have the "angler's card" though.
What are some of the most scenic places to go?
The Masurian Lake District would be my guess.
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
Paulina
28 Mar 2024
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
I know, I know... But 5 deaths in one month is rather unusual (at least by Polish army standards).
I'm sure Trump would disagree lol
I know. Apparently more US soldiers die in training than in combat. But in the US they also do "safety reviews" if "too many" die in a short time span:
news.usni.org/2023/08/30/marines-call-for-safety-standdown-after-5-marines-die-in-august-training-accidents
When my brother went into military this was one of the things I was afraid of most - that he will die or get maimed in one of those accidents.
If you don't train, you won't be able to fight.
I know, I know... But 5 deaths in one month is rather unusual (at least by Polish army standards).
The Polish army doesn't have to train.
I'm sure Trump would disagree lol
Deaths frequently happen in the USA services.
I know. Apparently more US soldiers die in training than in combat. But in the US they also do "safety reviews" if "too many" die in a short time span:
news.usni.org/2023/08/30/marines-call-for-safety-standdown-after-5-marines-die-in-august-training-accidents
When my brother went into military this was one of the things I was afraid of most - that he will die or get maimed in one of those accidents.
Paulina
27 Mar 2024
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]
After a series of deadly accidents during military training this month the Minister of Defense decided to halt some types of training in the Polish army. Officers agree that it's a good move - the situation should be investigated and improved:
o2.pl/informacje/sprawdzic-wyjasnic-i-do-boju-czarna-seria-wypadkow-na-szkoleniach-wojska-7010435315456992a
At the beginning of March two soldiers were ran over by a military tracked vehicle at an army test range in northwestern Poland. The accident took place at the Land Forces Training Center in Drawsko Pomorskie.
On Monday this week two soldiers from the 5th Chemical Regiment died during a training with explosives.
Yesterday a soldier from Special Forces unit NIL died during training in the Tatra Mountains.
🕯️😢
After a series of deadly accidents during military training this month the Minister of Defense decided to halt some types of training in the Polish army. Officers agree that it's a good move - the situation should be investigated and improved:
o2.pl/informacje/sprawdzic-wyjasnic-i-do-boju-czarna-seria-wypadkow-na-szkoleniach-wojska-7010435315456992a
At the beginning of March two soldiers were ran over by a military tracked vehicle at an army test range in northwestern Poland. The accident took place at the Land Forces Training Center in Drawsko Pomorskie.
On Monday this week two soldiers from the 5th Chemical Regiment died during a training with explosives.
Yesterday a soldier from Special Forces unit NIL died during training in the Tatra Mountains.
🕯️😢
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
@Novichok, your "detector" is malfunctioning then. I feel neither disappointment nor outrage. I feel for those people, but it's a complicated issue.
@Novichok, your "detector" is malfunctioning then. I feel neither disappointment nor outrage. I feel for those people, but it's a complicated issue.
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
As I wrote:
On a healthy child???????
As I wrote:
but in practice - it's not really possible, I guess...
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
Yup, it gave me such associations too...
From what I understand the point of those dark colours is that the body shape is less visible in them. You can see this in that photo of the Crown Prince of Dubai and a woman walking next to him that I posted. Those traditional white robes for men are more see-through and you can see the body shape better, while women's bodies in that photo are just big black spots. So I guess men can look all hot and sexy and "tempting", while women - nope...
I meant hormonal treatment, because that's what affects the height and muscle mass (and that's what counts in sports) and not whether you have a d1ck cut off or not.
Well, not every look suits everyone... The same can be said about short hair on women, I guess...
Men in these white nightgowns with a black ring on their heads look like saints, women all in black with covered hair look like devils.
Yup, it gave me such associations too...
From what I understand the point of those dark colours is that the body shape is less visible in them. You can see this in that photo of the Crown Prince of Dubai and a woman walking next to him that I posted. Those traditional white robes for men are more see-through and you can see the body shape better, while women's bodies in that photo are just big black spots. So I guess men can look all hot and sexy and "tempting", while women - nope...
How does one "transition" fully vs partially?
I meant hormonal treatment, because that's what affects the height and muscle mass (and that's what counts in sports) and not whether you have a d1ck cut off or not.
Long hair on men is a bit like facial piercing. It only suits about 10% of those who do it.
Well, not every look suits everyone... The same can be said about short hair on women, I guess...
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
Not at this point in time.
In theory - yes, if he transitioned fully at an early enough age, but in practice - it's not really possible, I guess...
Yes.
I don't think the look itself is hideous, but it isn't fair that men can wear white and women can't wear light colours and have to cover their hair pretty tightly, especially in a hot climate - that's pretty cruel. And yes - the "philosophy" behind it is what puts me off the most.
Do you think a man can be a woman
Not at this point in time.
and compete with women in sports
In theory - yes, if he transitioned fully at an early enough age, but in practice - it's not really possible, I guess...
even worse than the dark clothes are the primitive compulsions to cover hair and/or face....
Yes.
it's a hideous look and the philosophy behind it is hideous as well....
I don't think the look itself is hideous, but it isn't fair that men can wear white and women can't wear light colours and have to cover their hair pretty tightly, especially in a hot climate - that's pretty cruel. And yes - the "philosophy" behind it is what puts me off the most.
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
@Alien, yes, women have it worse in life, what can I say... lol
@Alien, yes, women have it worse in life, what can I say... lol
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
I honestly like how men there look and move in those "nightgowns" lol Darker complexion and white colour creates nice contrast and those robes are not as depressing as the dark clothes of Muslim women...
I think of Saudi/Gulf state Arab men as wearing nightgowns....
I honestly like how men there look and move in those "nightgowns" lol Darker complexion and white colour creates nice contrast and those robes are not as depressing as the dark clothes of Muslim women...
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
Yes, that's what I meant :)
Btw, didn't they wear kilts in Ireland too? 🤔
Yes and as a heterosexual woman I like how men look in them, actually, so I see nothing "unmanly" in them lol
In ancient times men were wearing robes and nooone saw anything wrong with that.
What's next? "Men cannot have long hair, just as women cannot have short hair"? lol 🙄
Kilts in Scotland (and only in the highlands
Yes, that's what I meant :)
Btw, didn't they wear kilts in Ireland too? 🤔
however in much of the Middle East and most of Africa men wear garments similar to dresses.
Yes and as a heterosexual woman I like how men look in them, actually, so I see nothing "unmanly" in them lol
Very comfortable and they suit hot weather well.
In ancient times men were wearing robes and nooone saw anything wrong with that.
What's next? "Men cannot have long hair, just as women cannot have short hair"? lol 🙄
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
@Alien, sorry, but you'll have to do better than that. Women do wear trousers these days and in some countries men used to wear skirts and still put them on for some occasions (Scotland) lol 🤦
@Alien, sorry, but you'll have to do better than that. Women do wear trousers these days and in some countries men used to wear skirts and still put them on for some occasions (Scotland) lol 🤦
Paulina
22 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
No, that's how you avoid having a serious, adult discussion on difficult topics.
And why do you think that? And what do you mean by this "new division of roles" exactly?
Well, well, welcome to the women's world then! lol My sister-in -law's going on maternity leave also ultimately cost her her job.
I like doing it because this is how you test idiotic ideas.
No, that's how you avoid having a serious, adult discussion on difficult topics.
it's just that neither men nor women can cope with this new division of roles
And why do you think that? And what do you mean by this "new division of roles" exactly?
the first male person in our company to go on maternity leave. This ultimately cost me my job
Well, well, welcome to the women's world then! lol My sister-in -law's going on maternity leave also ultimately cost her her job.
Paulina
21 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
@Novichok, I know that you like to take things to the ad absurdum level, but I think that Alien didn't mean things that men are physically incapable of in a marriage :))
@Novichok, I know that you like to take things to the ad absurdum level, but I think that Alien didn't mean things that men are physically incapable of in a marriage :))
Paulina
21 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Random Sports News [891]
@Alien, are you one of those sexist, selfish a-holes who are too lazy to let go of that "division of roles in marriages" and wish it was preserved? :)
Please explain what it has to do with the survival rate of marriages :))
@Alien, are you one of those sexist, selfish a-holes who are too lazy to let go of that "division of roles in marriages" and wish it was preserved? :)
Especially as the division of roles in marriages has changed.
Please explain what it has to do with the survival rate of marriages :))