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Paulina   
17 Sep 2023
News / Brilliant Poles and Polesses - presentation [65]

He still does, I think.

Ah, sorry, he doesn't anymore - he worked on SpaceX's Dragon for 7 years and once it was done he worked a bit on Starlink, but I guess he left. They'd want him back, but he's more interested in working on spaceships. SpaceX is working now in Texas on a spaceship that is supposed go the Moon and he's been thinking about that, but he doesn't feel like working for other people for the time being and he has a son in Poland now and lives here. I wonder what he's going to be up to in the future :)

Btw, when he was working on SpaceX's Dragon he saved a Falcon launch, because he managed to find a mistake in the code made by the team working on Falcon - he was sitting for the whole night trying to find out what's wrong - the launch was supposed to happen literally the next day :))

(Oh, and he's a zodiacal Gemini, like me! :D)
Paulina   
17 Sep 2023
News / Brilliant Poles and Polesses - presentation [65]

However, they all made amazing international careers

Good for them :)))

I wonder if it's from reading math books.

It's possible that they were not getting enough of vitamin D3 when they were kids. It could be that they weren't spending enough time outside and at the same time they weren't getting enough of vit D3 from food or supplements.

one of them even worked as a programmer in American space industry.

He still does, I think.
This is him today:


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Paulina   
16 Sep 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

People like Pawian who praise the EU need to remember their history

It's ironic you mention this, because one of the foundations for the creation of the EU was the desire for this history to not repeat itself again:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

"In this light European integration was seen, already during the war, as an antidote to the extreme nationalism which had devastated parts of the continent."
Paulina   
16 Sep 2023
Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

I don't like mayonnaise

Aww... :(( Maybe you simply didn't have the right one?? lol I personally like it a lot :)) And Kielecki Mayonaise is a form of art, you could say ;D ❤️

mayo

but I will gladly accept it in the version shown in these photos. 🙂

I'm sure you won't be the only one lol
Paulina   
16 Sep 2023
Travel / Kielce and the area - amazing Polish Pocket Knives live there [105]

I didn't know that our mayonaise has its own day :D It's my favourite mayo brand, obviously, and it contains no preservatives :))

produced in Poland since 1959

Yes, it's the first mass/factory produced mayonaise in Poland :)

We don`t buy it coz it has a strange taste.

Aww... :(( But I'm sure Bobko would love it due to Russian connection ;D:

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/15-wrzesnia-obchodzimy-dzien-majonezu-kieleckiego-przypominamy-niezwykla-historie-jego-powstania/ar/c17-17890573

forBobko
Paulina   
15 Sep 2023
Work / How can I found job for Hebrew speakers in Poland? [46]

So where in Poland, specifically?

At the University of Warsaw and at the Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznań, for example.

I was interested

It is interesting, especially considering that the guy who's the co-creator of "Fauda" and portrays the main character basically plays himself in a way. He served in the Duvdevan Unit (and his father served in Shayetet 13 and Shin Bet). After his military service he moved to the United States and worked as Arnold Schwarzenegger's bodyguard. After he came back to Israel he enrolled into a drama school.

When he was 19 a Palestinian Arab stabbed his girlfriend to death with a 15-inch knife in Jerusalem.

but the version I found the dialogue in Arabic wasn't translated...

That's weird, because there's a lot of dialogue in Arabic there... I've watched one season on Netflix and there definitely were subtitles for Arabic.
Paulina   
15 Sep 2023
Work / How can I found job for Hebrew speakers in Poland? [46]

I thought they spoke Yiddish?

Yiddish is spoken by approximately 200,000 Israelis, mostly in Hasidic communities. Hebrew is the official language in Israel and is spoken by majority of the population there. It used to be a dead language, but was, clearly, successfully revived :)

Try to find Israeli tv shows with subtitles on netflix (or similar).

Yes, "Fauda" is very popular, apparently, for example.
Paulina   
15 Sep 2023
Life / Why is women-hatred and stereotyping so popular in Poland? [181]

a woman will not sacrifice him because... he is so pretty.

Alien... ;D

There's this conviction that women are inherently worse at chess than men, but I'm not sure if that's true. I think many factors may be at play here. I mean, I know that there are differences in the brains of women and men that result in them excelling at different things. For example, women are better communicators, they are better at social interactions, at listening and at languages. Men are usually more introverted than women and dominate in IT jobs, for example.

However, it was me and my female cousins that were more into playing chess when we were kids than the boys in our family (in the end only girls ended up playing chess, because boys got bored, I guess). And it is those two female cousins of mine that have more "scientific" minds than men in our family - one works in IT and another one ended up with a PHD in biotechnology and doing scientific stuff.

First of all, there are more male chess players than female chess players and this may simply account for that phenomenon of male chess players being "at the top of the game":

slate.com/technology/2020/12/why-are-the-best-chess-players-men.html

Quote from the article:

"A 2008 study led by psychologist Merim Bilalić points out the logical flaw in citing differences in top rankings as evidence of inherent differences: If one group (female chess players) is much smaller than another (male chess players), then just by chance, one would expect that the best member of the larger group outperforms the best member of the smaller group."

The thing is, there are also many more male chefs working at restaurants than female chefs and I don't think that anyone would claim that women are inherently worse at cooking than men :)))

So why are there less female chefs? I've watched once a documentary about female chefs and one (Western) male chef working at a restaurant in some luxurious hotel in China was asked this question. They asked him whether women are worse at it than men. He said that no - they're great. They're actually better employees than men, because they're more hard-working, diligent and they don't get drunk at work. So they asked him why there are so few female chefs. His answer was: "They get pregnant."

And another quote from the article:

"But in math - a field much like chess in several ways - a fascinating "natural experiment" occurred when Germany split into East and West Germany. The gender gap in math ended up being much smaller in East than West Germany, arguably because the East's radically egalitarian system encouraged girls' self-confidence and competitiveness in math. This demonstrates that gender differences in intellectual performance can be caused by society-level beliefs."
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

The thing was it wasn't a blackface.

Yes, exactly.

People in the comments from the link I posted touched upon this:

"WannabeTraveler87
Legit question. When did "blackface" evolve from the original caricature (which was obviously racist) to now mean any time someone paints their face black?

Parhel
I have the same question. Blackface, to me, is like shoe polish and red lipstick. Not like Darrell Hammond impersonating Jesse Jackson on SNL."
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

he is part of polish polite society. the libertarian crowd.

I thought you hate Konfa lol
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Poles are so often hypersensitive to criticism.

I have nothing against valid criticism. I've criticised all kinds of stuff in Polish society/in Poland on this forum. But this time the criticism simply isn't valid in my opinion.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

It did. A great deal.

Where? In the British press?

I'll take that as an admission on your part that you're attempting to defend the indefensible.

Then you're delusional.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

No, I would prefer they would finally understand they are not the whole world, their world view is 'not the one,true and only'

Yes, this. I'd rather the West didn't project their issues on us - as you wrote, we have enough of our own lol

Quite frankly I find this attitude very imperialistic.

Yes, very self-centered, arrogant and controlling, imho.

They were.

No, they weren't.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Why would they?

In order to be fair and objective and in order not to cause anti-Polish prejudice. Polish media somehow bothered to explain where this outrage in the West is coming from, they explained the "blackface history" to Polish readers.

They're reporting an incident, not how such an incident is viewed.

That's not true. They wrote about the "outrage" this performance caused, some articles even quoted comments of internet users ("cherrypicked", I'm sure lol).

At least you didn't say that Jedwabne was a myth or that Poland is less racist than most developed countries in a Europe.

You're such an a$$hole, jon357. You know very well that I'm not that kind of person and this topic was brought up by the most pro-black person on this forum - by pawian. If he didn't write about it, I'm not even sure if I'd hear about this controversy and know what "blackface" is.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

@amiga500, The Guardian wrote about it on Tuesday already:

theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/12/polish-tv-talent-show-contestants-use-blackface-for-kendrick-lamar-beyonce-performances

Quite. Bad publicity.

Done by the UK and American press without explaining the differences between how it's viewed in Poland and in the US/UK.

In opposition to mainstream decent opinion.

First of all, that's not a decent, but an ignorant opinion, imho.
Secondly, I haven't seen a proof so far of that being an opinion of the majority of black people around the world.

That is by no means n arbiter of what is right.

But your opinion is? lol
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

And you cherrypicked online stuff that you searched for.

First of all, I only googled "blackface in Polish TV" and that's what came up, among others.
Secondly, I presented opinions to you that are in the opposition to yours, to stress that point that, indeed, there is a diversity of opinions concerning this matter. You claimed that "on the whole, 'blacking up' is seen negatively", but I don't see that in the comments. There are a lot of sensible comments there that I agree with.

That's certainly one take on racism, albeit ill thought out and old fashioned.

Sorry, but I don't understand what's your point here.

Just remember not to be so " ignorant and pretty self-centered/insane" when people disrespect Poles.

There was nothing disrespectful about that guy's performance. On the contrary. That's the point.
Paulina   
14 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

I'm sure there is a diversity of views

Yes, there is:

reddit.com/r/news/comments/16gps4l/outrage_as_polish_tv_talent_show_contestants_use/

"masalion
As a brown dude, I don't get it. If you're offended by people using your skin color in a non-derogatory way, aren't you implying that looking like you is somehow bad?

I love being brown, and if other people want a piece of that action, go ahead imo."

"fuckin_normie
There is a difference between using blackface as a mockery because you're racist, and making yourself look like the person you idolize. It's literally the same thing as dressing up as your favourite actor. Please let's not just put everything under one umbrella. Intentions matter"

"DWS223
Given that the United States is not the world and given that Poland's history is very different then our own, would it not be reasonable that "blackface" in Poland doesn't have the same racist connotations that it has here in the US?

Also it sounds like the whole controversy is just a handful of social media trolls. Is this even really news?"

"CopyPasteCliche
Can we take into consideration the fact that it wasn't used to mock the race but make artist appear more similar to them? It's the whole point of this ****** show.

Also I love how we are just exporting issues from US and pretend they are worldwide.

Aight downvote me now. Peace."

There are more comments like this.

however on the whole, 'blacking up' is seen negatively.

Are you sure that "on the whole"? Where exactly? In Africa? Or only in the West?

It's very weird and infantile to expect people in foreign countries with very different histories to care about localized trauma....

And ignorant and pretty self-centered/insane to me, tbh.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

So a comment from one bod in Poland who earns money from the same TV show makes all the difference then, does it....

Pawian quoted a black guy from the comments on YouTube who has exactly the same view of that performance as Nick Sinckler does. So, I suspect there are more black people out there who would agree with him too.

And you and I both daily associate with such people on this forum

By "associating" I meant making friends with such people or supporting their views.
As for our PF racists then I discuss and argue with them and not "associate" myself with them.

Better to be safe than sorry.

As I wrote already - Poland has a different history and different take on this. Whether a Polish TV show will take into account sensibilities from "across the pond" - I don't know, I guess we'll see. I personally think it would be taking it a bit too far and I'd rather have a discussion with black people about this than a total ban on white people performing as black artists.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

It never does though.

It clearly does - read Nick Sinckler's reaction.

Plenty do complain about drag: there are examples of it on this very forum.

Those are not the kind of people I'd like to associate myself with though. Would you?

Just admit it. Polish TV made an embarrassing mistake.

I can't admit it, because I don't agree with your take on this. I don't see it as a mistake or that there's something wrong with it. I'm with Nick Sinckler on this - I view it exactly the way he does. So, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

The intent is far less relevant than the effect.

I'd say that the effect should depend on the intent.

A black contestant of the show, Nick Sinckler, defends that performance:

"I can see them celebrating greatness that we've introduced into the world. If you can't see a difference between ridiculing/mocking and paying tribute to wonderful black artists whose music influenced the world... then that's your problem, not mine."

Source:

rozrywka.spidersweb.pl/twoja-twarz-brzmi-znajomo-2023-szmajkowski-humble-blackface-rasizm-polsat

something as inane as this.

There's nothing "inane" about this, considering this is the point of that TV show - impersonating singers.

So impersonate white singers or bring in a black contestant.

Why? If a man can impersonate a female singer on that show then why can't a white man impersonate a black singer? Here's that Nick Sinckler that I quoted earlier impersonating a female singer on the show - Libianca:



I somehow can't hear anyone in the West complaining about this :))

But I suppose a man pretending to be a woman would offend RuSSian sensitivities this time lol 🤦
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

from communist times called "Zmiennicy"

Or maybe that was "Alternatywy 4"... 🤔 But I'm pretty sure there was a "black guy" or someone who was supposed to have a darker complexion in "Zmiennicy" too.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Whites impersonated blacks coz there weren`t enough original blacks.

Yes, exactly, I remember that too :)) There were those TV series from communist times called "Zmiennicy" about a woman pretending to be a man in order to be a taxi driver or something and I remember that there was a "black guy" character there at some point (I remembered it, because it was so unusual). He was supposed to be a foreigner, an American I think, but it was pretty obvious that it was a Polish actor with a make up. I'm guessing that they simply didn't have a black actor speaking Polish with an American accent at that time :) ;))
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Yes, but strictly politically correct people still feel disgusted.

I'm guessing that it's because they don't know what this TV show is about. And if they know and still have a problem with it then it must stem from the American issues connected to slavery, racial segregation, etc. Not a Polish problem, imho.

In which case, it's the fault of the programme's organisers. Either choose a white singer to impersonate or get a black contestant on.

I disagree. There was no I'll intent behind it, so I see no problem.

Most places stopped doing stuff like that years ago.

Perhaps "most places" have more black people that could compete in such a TV show - Poland doesn't. We also have a different history than the US and Western countries - we have no history of colonisation of Africa and enslaving their people. There was also no tradition in Poland of using "blackface" make up to ridicule black people, as far as I am aware.

Also, sorry, but this is hypocrisy - if a black girl can play a role of a white Disney character in a movie in the US ("The Little Mermaid"), then why a Polish guy can't impersonate a black singer in Poland? This is crazy.
Paulina   
13 Sep 2023
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Black face makeup is NEVER NEVER NEVER OK! It is possible to show appreciation for the music without ripping off peoples' appearances

But that's the point of this TV show - the contestants are supposed impersonate various singers both vocally and visually lol 🤦