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Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Bobko has no problem with glorifying a state that enslaved my country

Yes, that's precisely why I glorify it - because it satellited Poland.

The reason some people in Russia, and other CIS states miss the Soviet Union:

1) It was a great country, respected around the world. You could be proud of your passport, and you felt protected by your state.

2) Everyone lived together, and nobody cared who was Russian, who was Azeri, who was Armenian and so on. People married between nationalities, and were friendly with each other regardless of origin. Nationalism was considered a dirty word.

3) The state took care of the sick, and provided everyone with a top notch education - even if they weren't necessarily suited to it.

4) We thought of ourselves as the good guys, defenders of places like Cuba, Vietnam, Angola, Ethiopia and so on. We fought Apartheid, and colonial exploitation.

5) We made huge strides in science, which benefited all of humanity.

6) The old and the weak did not have to worry that they would end up on the street.

Only turbo patriots with sh*t for brains would be proud of our country, because we kept places like Hungary and the Czech Republic "under our thumb". Most normal people viewed citizens of these countries as brotherly peoples, no worse than ourselves.

Was the system headed towards a dead end? Absolutely.

But we didn't have to tear it down to its foundation to change things. We should have done what China did. Many millions of people were terribly hurt by the collapse, and they are either no longer around or have never recovered.

Being proud has nothing to do with "enslaving Poland".
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

On August 30, 1943, armed members of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UIA) murdered 438 Poles. Among the victims there were 246 children under 14 years of age.

Where did this old Pawian go? Message is from Aug. 6, 2013.

The Israelis burned Gaza to the ground for much less, and their "horror" only lasted a single afternoon. Poland - in the end - only killed a very small fraction of what was done to them in retaliation.

Christian vs Jewish culture, perhaps. Christ among Nations, and all that.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

What a f*cking evil empire..

Thank you Kania, as always.

Takie z was dobre pany!

Dokladnie tak jest! Dziekuje Paulina, w koncu jestesmy po tej samej stronie.

As a reward, some more photos of old Nazi fags for you. I really enjoy that none of them are of an age that it could be even remotely possible that they served in the OUN-UPA or SS Galician. Also, the presence of many strange medals that they got from god knows who. F*cking cosplayers.


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Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

my svoeekh nye brasayem

Все правильно.

The Soviet Union didn't let Poland go after Stalin died.

We let you go later, didn't we? We let everyone else go too.

It's hard to think of another example of country that bloodlessly relinquished an entire empire, and didn't ask for anything in return. Britain and France gave away their possessions, screaming and kicking, and only after it became impossible to resist the United States and the Soviet Union.

Gorbachev may have been a galactic scale moron, but he did do the things I described above. You should pray to his ghost before bed.

I never hated the German army

Same. They were mostly too busy fighting and dying at the front, and didn't have the time or opportunity to terrorize innocent people.

Not to be compared to the vampires that moved in the rear of the German army, practically never did any fighting, but instead were specialists at torching villages and executing women and kids.

SS and Auschwitz guards are another matter

First of all - volunteers. Second - f*cking fanatics.

Any kind of a fanatic should be avoided.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

You GLORIFY the Soviet Union, Stalin, the Soviet Army.

I have no problem glorifying the Soviet Union and the Soviet Army - because this is my motherland, and the military in which my family lost so many. F*cking sue me.

I do have problems with glorifying Stalin. I hate the monuments that some idiots are putting up (almost all on private initiative, and practically never state sanctioned). I don't like the documentaries being made by clueless journalists. I don't like the security services in general - the lot of them - the FSB foremost among them. They're descendants of the murderous Cheka, MGB, and KGB.

But because the army is a cross section of the entire Russian society I will not hate them. They are not in the same category as the grey little mice from the FSB and other spies. My friends and relatives are in this army, and I know they are good people that would not harm an innocent person if they could help it. They would rather die.

Pawian - I will record that you shamelessly refused to defend Ukro-Nazis.

Thank you.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

to be able to admit that it happened and acknowledge that Poles have the right to feel angry

It absolutely happened, and Poles absolutely have the right to be angry.

It's just that I feel like BB, when people attack him over Hitler. He never defends him, he never says what he did was right - and yet sometimes it feels like he has to answer for the entire Third Reich.

Back on topic, and to Ukraine - they not only won't apologize, they GLORIFY it.

With parades. With fancy funerals. With monuments. With "documentaries" on television.

These are the people you gave so much weapons and money to, so that they could kill more of us. What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you not helping us?
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

@Bratwurst Boy

Stalin was a criminal that robbed banks and trains to fill Bolshevik coffers during their underground days. Lenin during this time sat in Switzerland, drinking coffee and writing smart books.

He was brutalized through abusive parents, the Tsar's Okhranka, prisons, the Civil War, and then the Polish Soviet war. If you grew a monster in a laboratory, you could not do better than Stalin.

In his last will and testament, Lenin warned his comrades about Koba's sadistic tendencies.

Through his brutality he emerged on top, and killed every real opponent - from Trotsky to Tukhachevsky.

It's just cruel fate we ended up in the hands of this butcher. He broke my country, and robbed us of everything except our soul.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

That's exactly the problem with RuSSians and UkrainianSS - you don't listen to your victims.

On my father's side, my great grandfather was sent to Kemerovo, in Siberia, where he froze to death in a labor camp. The charge was "espionage in favor of Japan". The man had never been to Japan, or spoken Japanese, and had no possible means of contacting them.

His brother, was unceremoniously shot in a MGB basement, and dumped into a pit outside of the city. We only discovered what happened to them around the late 1990s or early 2000s.

All of my grandparents were total orphans.

I don't need you telling me about what a monster Stalin was.

Outside people attacking Russia over Stalin only leads to a reflexive rallying around the flag.

What do you want from me? To tell you that I'm sorry Stalin did these things to your country? Of course I am sorry. Happy?
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

the Katyn monument being 'downgraded' and recent editions of 'official' text books omitting it.

Every decent Russian, and absolutely everyone in my circle of acquaintances - without exception - understands this was a terrible crime against the Polish nation.

Maybe some bumpkin out in the sticks, who has never opened a book, and only consumes zombie tv thinks it was justified... but again no decent person in Russia thinks so.

The downgrading of monuments is only because of the present problems in the relations between our countries. It will go back to normal once things quiet down. And even so, I think we shouldn't go low and do such things.

to rake up dark chapters of the past.

Actually, I stopped raking up this sh*t years ago on this forum, and the only reason I'm doing it now is because Ukraine's moronic foreign minister thrust it back into the spotlight - absolutely unprompted.

If you don't like me talking about this, go and complain to the UA Ministry of Foreign Affairs that they are leading a counterproductive policy.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
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By this logic RuSSian "animals" are guilty too and you should pay your bills too.

Do you see Russian officials saying "we didn't kill enough people in Katyn?"

Do you see Russian ceremonies commemorating the crushing of the Prague Spring or the protests in Budapest?

The only bad thing we do is the recent trend of whitewashing Stalin, but this will pass. People will wake up, and remember again why it is wrong. In any case, Stalin killed more of us than he ever did of you - so we do not need to listen to your lectures. This is our problem, and we will figure it out - without your assistance.

Now compare that to Ukrainians - who live without apology. Like little babies - everything with them has to be forgiven.

So then how are we equally guilty? Where do we glorify crimes and massacres? Show me.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
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What bills? For what?

For bringing strife into our lands, and for murdering countless innocents like cowards.

I don't believe that a son must pay for a father's crimes - but these animals actively embrace that part of their history. They glorify it. Therefore, they are guilty too.

Otherwise who will punish them? The Poles? Hahaha

They sh*t in your plate, and you ask for seconds.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Inshallah, we will reach the western regions one day, and deport these cowards to the Arctic Circle so that they may dig metals out of the permafrost with their bare hands.

There, together with the polar bears, they can salute Bandera every day until they turn into icicles.

So....there had been a hostile past?

They never lived with us until after WW1.

They lived in a bubble inside the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They have a different religion - Greco-Catholicism, whereas 85% of the rest of Ukraine are good Orthodox.

They never spoke Russian, but instead their ape language.

They don't understand our culture, and do not respect our history.

They are mutants, aliens from outer space.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Bandera and the ukrainian SS are seen as freedom fighter/guerilla against Stalin/Russia

They had a very unique way of fighting against the Soviet Union, which consisted of avoiding all military confrontations with the Red Army and instead focusing on Jews, and Polish women and children.

Once their Fuhrer took a dirt nap in the Reich Chancellery, they spread out into the forests like rats - and didn't come out until they were amnestied.

This is no Taliban, no Vietcong... but rather very pathetic b*tches. The one time they did fight us, as mentioned, they got smashed with a ten ton hammer. They sh*t their pants so hard, they are still cleaning their underwear.

In general, it was a big mistake taking in these Western Ukrainians from Austria-Hungary. Ever since they joined us, they have been poisoning life for everybody else and infecting our very good Ukrainians with their retardation. Should have left them to the Austrians to continue their experiments on their brains.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

It's a kind of desperation

I fail to see the connection between being invaded and reaching for the SS?

Do they not have other heroes in their supposedly 1,000+ year history? Why do the heroes have to come from a short period of time during which the country was literally raped?

What surprises me is why we didn't kill every single one of these dogs, and how they managed to survive into the 2000s.

I understand that we could not reach the b*tches that escaped to Canada and Argentina, but why did we not execute every single one that ended up in our hands? It would save us all the problems of today...

F*cking idiot Khrushchev issued them all an amnesty after Stalin died...

At least the KGB took care of Bandera with a nice gift of cyanide gas, but imho every single one of the others should have been shot and nailed to crosses from Kiev to Lviv - so everybody else would know the price of selling out your country.

That's also true.

Of course Paulina will judge somebody for an awkward turn of phrase, but can simultaneously be understanding towards enlisting in the SS. Are you Polish, or what are you?
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
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There were units from nearly every european country....

Did you ever see Dutch people staging parades for SS Panzer Grenadier Division "Nederland"?

How about Danes and Norwegians - ever see a parade for SS Panzer Division "Wiking"?

Maybe you saw French people parading around in uniforms of the SS Grenadier Division "Charlemagne"?

Even retarded Latvians and Lithuanians don't go around saying it was wonderful how the Germans helped them erase their Jews and Russians.

I hope you are beginning to see my point, and the difference between France, The Netherlands, etc and Ukraine.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

could also ask why that veteran did fight for the opressor?

Because they saw in the Germans an instrument to finally get equal with the Jews, Poles, and Russians - that's why.

They thought they were very clever, and were using the Germans. When in fact the Germans used them like a piece of toilet paper, and then threw them out.

Vlasov would today be heralded as liberator and savior....

In modern Russia, each time Vlasov's name is mentioned it is immediately mixed with sh*t. He's the excrement of our nation, and the worst low life. I wipe my shoes on the name Vlasov.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
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Not only.

It's a spit in the face of the millions of Ukrainians who fought and died as part of the Red Army.

Millions! Versus a few thousand idiots that like to dress up like it's Halloween!

Why are the feelings of millions trampled, to glorify the exploits of traitors and butchers? Collaborationist scum, with no country, no honor, and no shame?

The old veteran from my screenshot on the other page was CRYING when asked about the SS parade. What kind of animal disrespects their elders in such a way?

If I was at that SS veteran's funeral I would take a nice big dump into his coffin, and then pi$s in it for good measure.

The people that should be honored are the Ukrainians in the photos below.

May 9 parade is now permanently cancelled, but SS marches are allowed. This is a sick country.


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Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

here:

Thanks. I hate audio books, so I will read the PDF instead.

So the Russians have to somehow settle accounts with the 6 million Poles who disappeared somewhere

How do you come up with this sh*t? Do you pull it out of your a*s?

According to the Wikipedia article "Soviet Repressions of Polish Citizens (1939-1946)", 150,000 Poles died from all reasons combined.

150,000 is not a small number by any means, but it's in a different galaxy from 6 million.

Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939%E2%80%931946)#:~:text=An%20estimated%20150%2C000%20Polish%20citizens%20were%20killed%20by%20Soviet%20repressions.

I think the reason for your confusion is the transfer of territories to the Belarusian and Ukrainian SSRs. 13 million people lived on the territories that were transferred, before 1939. A great many of them were Belarusians, Rusyns, Ukrainians, and Lithuanians.
Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

On April 1st I would have said they didn't murder... 🤔

Special for you, from the Wiki article "Holocaust Victims".

Mind you, this is only the people killed in camps or in so called "special operations". It's not even close to the number who perished in occupied territory in "non exterminative" circumstances, but simply through starvation, or other means.

Basically, during some weeks, Germany would kill more Poles in a routine and boring fashion, than in Katyn.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

70.auschwitz.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89&Itemid=173&lang=en


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Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Photo 1 - Zelensky, a Jew, at the grave of his grandfather Simeon Ivanovich Zelensky. He was a commander of a rifle company of the 174th regiment of the 57th Guards Rifle Division. A decorated soldier, that saw 4 years of combat during the Great Patriotic War.

His grandfather is spinning in his grave knowing that his grandson spits on the memory of millions of Ukrainian veterans who died fighting the scum for whose funerals Zelensky provides the Presidential Regiment.

Photo 2 - a screenshot of a veteran of the Worker and Peasant Red Army being interviewed about the SS Galichina parade. He has tears in his eyes, while he explains how he cannot understand why this scum is being allowed to march around unpunished.


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Bobko   
1 Sep 2024
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might think that the war is raging not in Donbass but somewhere close to L'viv

The Galicians are fast runners.

When they were deployed to their first combat at the Battle of Brody, the division disintegrated within the first week of fighting against Marshal Ivan Konev's 1st Ukrainian Front.

Well, not the first week, but rather within about two days. They engaged in the favorite Ukrainian activity of getting encircled in a pocket. Out of a nominal strength of 11,000 men, only 3,000 escaped encirclement and promptly ran West. The other 8,000 were f*cked with broomsticks and then sent to meet their maker.

From Wikipedia: "By the end of that day, in the face of overwhelming Soviet attacks, the 14th Galician Division as a whole disintegrated."

That's July 20th, 1944. Their first heavy contact was on July 18th. What a mighty division!

As it turned out, fighting the Red Army was not as fun as marching around in parades or engaging in rear anti partisan work.


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