News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]


I expected Konfederacja to get into the EU parliament (when most "opinion" polls gave them no more than 1-3% up until the last week*) and they delivered.

Now I expect them to grow and to absorb most of those 4% that Kukiz had.

*it's time to start holding those institutes legally accountable for delivering manipulative information

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Like in a Hungarian scenario "Fidesz/Jobbik", PiS will have to accept that there's a party on the right side

Konfederacja will help PiS to stay firmly on the right side and to listen to the conservative electorate instead of looking for a mythical "centre voters". They would also correct their foreign policy. Any move towards centre by PiS would give Konfederacja new fuel to grow.

A scenario in which PiS would be unable to rule without coalition with Konfederacja after autumn elections would be an ideal scenatio for Poland.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

@delphiandomine, as much I like to hear from your mouth insults thrown at those poor excuses for politicians from KE/PO like Kopacz and company, those were exactly the most recognized faces in the coalition.

And the elections to the EU Circus in Poland, which are treaded much less seriously than Parliamentary elections, are in fact a popularity contest not a competence contest.

That said, despite all those efforts and forming a "large coalition", losing the EU elections was in fact a TKO and a red card before the most important Autumn Elections.

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@pawian, you wrote so much nonsense that I don't even know where to start...


So you love Russians. How many Russians do you know in person?

I met quite a few of them in Poland and even more of them in London (they moved to the UK disguised as Latvians, Lithuanians...) and I wouldn't say that I love them but I know how to deal with them in person.

Which brings me to the next point: the only way of effectively dealing with Russians is from the position of power. Any other approach is seen as a sign of weakness by a regular Russian. So yes, a mutual respect is possible only when both sides take hard line. That's how they are wired and that's how they've been conditioned for centuries.

When it comes to politics, obviously that kind of relations with Russia is something that only a strong conservative government is capable of. Even the US, the superpower, got slapped by Russia when they had a weak, incompetent, liberal president Obama.

And now, connecting Polish nationalist with some kind of pro-russian stance is an aberration shared by both tribes: PiS and PO followers. Polish nationalist have pro-Polish stance and in Polish interest is to cooperate with those who will bring - economical, political or any other - profits to Poland. Something which Viktor Orban does succesfully for Hungary.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

@delphiandomine, I'm afraid you don't have an idea about Polish politics.

KE/PO has thrown everything they've had. And they also had overwhelming support of the mass media (excluding public broadcaster), newspapaers and celebrities, not to mention EU politicians (including "the president of Europe").

Yet, it wasn't enough since they lack true elites and are unable to produce any coherent political idea and all they are mentally capable of is:

a) non-constructive criticism not only of PiS or other political parties but also the very foundations of a true European civilisation
b) copycatting dumb ideas invented by even dumber EU left wing groups and politicians and trying to implement them in Poland


You're trying to put your own words in my mouth. Point me to the post where I said that. I'm pretty sure those were your words

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I couldn' agree more. Their only program was: "we're against everything that PiS does and/or says" and "we want the power and priviledges back now!". KE/PO voters didn't vote for KE, they vote against PiS.

I can say a lot of words of criticism about PiS, yet when compared to PO/KE/Nowoczesna/Wiosna they are few levels above them.


Konfederacja has shown that the truly ideological and conservatist right can unite and that it can also score the results which will guarantee parliamentary seats. Many potential voters won'tbe afraid of "wasted vote" syndrome in the future.

I predict that for the next 6 months until the next elections they will grow and absorb Kukiz 15 voters and some of the most conservative PiS voters.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

Estimated [record] turnout: 43%

Estimated results:

Prawo i Sprawiedliwość - 42.4 procent
Koalicja Europejska - 39.1 procent
Wiosna Biedronia - 6.6 procent
Konfederacja KORWiN Braun Liroy Narodowcy - 6.1 procent
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Kukiz'15 - 4.1 procent
Lewica Razem - 1.3 procent

If KE lost even the EU elections they will get even worse beating in Parliamentary elections.

My predictions from 3 days ago

Life / Rural Poland Heritage [39]


You're writing it like it is some kind of "measure of civilisation"

How many McDonalds have you got per square mile? Uuu, so many? It must be a very civililised country ;-)

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]


Beaurocrats [politicians are elected, beaurocrats are appointed] of European Commission, of which Juncker is a president, are not directly elected but nominated by the European Council (of which itself is semi-directly elected...) and then approved by the EU Circus that is a Parliament in Strasburg, which itself breaks many democratic rules*.

*youtube.com/watch?v=y93wPZT9Oqw (with english subtittles)

Life / Rural Poland Heritage [39]

You forgot about the fact that most villagers have their own houses [no rent] and a piece of land which brings them their own food and/or additional income from selling raw products to markets.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

@pawian since it costs nothing let's predict the future :-)

My prediction is: the higher the participation, the worse overall results for KE.

Just a few months ago there was no issue of KE scoring less than PiS in the EU elections and it was only argued how many more votes than PiS they will get. Now they're excited when both results are equal. And PiS is afraid that Konfederacja will take "their" votes from conservative voters.

Since there's EU circus in Strasburg has no real power, because decision are being made by [non-elected] European Council, those elections will serve mostly as a PR event before autumn elections in Poland.

And now let's wait and see.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]


Declarations and actions are two different things. But who knows, maybe they'll really storm voting stations like there's no tomorrow and we will see 100% turn out like in communist times? :-P

Meanwhile, I'd suggest that you would check and compare the statistics for the EU elections in Poland:

Year 2004 20,9%
Year 2009 24,53%
Year 2014 23,83%

With Parliamentary elections in Poland:

Year 2005 40,57%
Yeat 2007 53,88%
Year 2011 48,92%
Year 2015 50.92%

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

Atch, what's more important it will activate countryside voters and most of them are conservative

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

@delphinadomine, you're getting too much excited about the elections to the EU Circus which won't attract more than 1/3 of the voters in Poland. A reallly important elections will take place in autumn.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

"These populist, nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own countries," Juncker told CNN.

Thank you mister Drunker for your kind support.

politico.eu/article/juncker-lashes-out-at-stupid-nationalists/

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]


You are becoming melodramatic, @pawian Or is it just a pre-election paranoia? :-)

If fact, it is the left side which would like to gag any opposition and ostracize those who are not sharing their views.

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Well, given it was true - and it's not, that would only mean that the current system is bad and it is alienating young and energetic males from contributing to Polish economy and society. But I understand that you only wanted to insult them [us] and not to look for a real answer.

I can clearly see that you are lost because instead of fighting with your imaginary enemies that are easy to dismiss and ridicule you have to face young eloquent people and very reasonable ideas and political solutions which they share.

It is easy to observe in public political debates a huge difference in knowledge and an intelectual potential between young national-conservatist politicians like Konrad Berkowicz, Slawomir Mentzen, Krzysztof Bosak and a young "elites" of the left.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

Here's an interesting public opinion poll for, bear with me, gazeta wyborcza.

twitter.com/aozga/status/1130396292193181696/photo/1

35% of young Poles age 18-24 wants to vote for Konfederacja.

By far the most than for any other political party in Poland. 25% in a wider age group of 18-34. The future is bRight.

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

This is how a political opinion polls in Poland are being made :-)

youtu.be/M0mOy53awI0

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

@Pawian, you switched you opinion quickly from: "Konfederacja doesn't have a chance to get into EU Parliament" to "I hope they will get at least 10%". Ach, the power of public opinion polls :-)

Obviously, the main purpose of the EU Circus elections is to flex muscles and to gain political popularity. The real power comes with autumn Parliamentary elections in Poland.

We don't know the results yet but let's speculate a bit.

PO will get more % of votes in the EU elec. than in the upcoming parliamentary elections. Partly because countryside PiS electorate doesn't care about the EU parliament elections at all, but they will mobilize for autumn elections.

Your hopes and calculations are quite far-fetched. If Konfederacja canibalise Kukiz 15 completely, PiS will have no other option that forming a coalition with Konfederacja who will gain expotential political power thanks to being the only political force that PiS could effectively cooperate with.

Basically PiS will have to grant a few important seats to Konfederacja leaders and agree to some "radical" (in their opinion) postulates such as deregulation of economy, laxing gun laws, much more independent foreign politics, tighter grip on immigration from outside of Europe and more..

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A voice of reason from you, @delphiandomine warm up my heart :-)

'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' Luke 15:3-7

News / Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland [1071]

Historically speaking Austria was penetrated by GRU and KGB residents to a level not seen in any other Western country and they were very passive and never expelled any of them. So I'm not very surprised by this turn of events.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

I criticized Germany for many things and political decisions but I never questioned importance of free economic exchange between Poland and Germany. That's what our relations should be restricted too. When it comes to politics and social matters, Germany is a bad influence.

I thought that "liberals" were always pro-choice, was I mistaken? :-P

I repeat: "[taking] all the parts that works without any parts which aren't necessary for harmonic cooperation between nation-states of Europe. Those unnecessary penalties are leftist ideological distortions which are omnipresent in the EU." And not needed at all.

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Polish national traits are creativity, individualism, stubborness, contrariness, respect for family values, heroism in times of crisis

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

Correction: we want all the parts that works without any parts which aren't necessary for harmonic cooperation between nation-states of Europe. Those unnecessary penalties are leftist ideological distortions which are omnipresent in the EU.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

What most Poles want are the things which are [falsely] associated with the EU like Schengen zone free travel agreement, free trade which was started by European Economic Community and existed long before the EU was even created.

A work needs to be done to make Poles realise that.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

I think they were really clear about it during the last party congress in Warsaw. They want Poland out of socialist driven EU, yet there are two factions: one - which I support - wants to destroy the EU from within to eliminate the threat of ever expanding socialist federation and the other one want Polexit which is a half-measure in my opinion but still better than remaining in the EU.

We don't need the EU.

For free travel we only need Schengen zone which is independent from the EU structures.

And for free trade we only need single market ie. EEC as established in Treaties of Rome in 1957 long before the EU was even a dream [or rather a nightmare].

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]

About political correctness in Poland.

This track was played in all major radio stations and on TV back in 2005 and it was completely normal :-)

youtube.com/watch?v=6G2OhwIUaM0

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A one minute video which says more about what [and who] they represent than most political parties says during the whole election campaign.

youtube.com/watch?v=oDqSWjI1a7Q

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

Trade with the US has also grown significantly in the last 3 years

census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4550.html