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jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Switzerland and Germany are the only two countries I know of that provide pharmaceutical grade heroin to "chronic" addicts

Until about the early 70s we did that in the U.K.. It generally worked very well albeit being 'private' rather than NHS, however there was huge pressure from certain other countries to stop prescribing it to addicts.

The change caused huge misery.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

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Did you know that Baghdad has more Christian churches than Częstochowa?

Quite. And it's worth mentioning that more people attend Sunday Mass in India than in Poland.

quote=Tacitus]I pointed out that a similar movement is also gaining strength in the UK[/quote]
As mentioned, the electoral system there is a hedge against extreme parties, one reason that they did far less well in the locals than opinion polls suggest their support is and why they've barely got anybooliticdl offices.

Some people just cling to their convictions and there is no arguing with them.

Yes, you would do well to understand this, and to accept that the effect of leaving that trade bloc hasn't made anything worse and has in fact brought some advantages.

your weird ideas about nationalization. Trains are in many countries not in private hands and the EU has nonissue with it.

Nationalisation. It doesn't have a Z.

Not so weird. The Tories privatised ours and had we remained in the European Union, it wouldn't have been possible to renationalise them. Now it is, and this is happening at the moment. Nor would be possible to nationalise the steel industry.

Tell us about this "suffering" you ate trying to pretend has occurred? Who is "suffering" more than comparably sized economies and what lives is this "suffering" destroying?
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

@Paulina
Enough already.

paramedics' requests

That's only part of the picture and stab vests only cover part of the body.

If the phenomenon of attacks on nurses, doctors etc is growing, there needs to be a more coherent approach rather than just firefighting.

Education? Publicity? What is best?
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

"no biggie" o_O

Hard to know where you got that from, especially the odd phrase and whatever it is with the 0o.

If you read carefully you'll see that there are many problems about heroin mentioned, pretty well all stemming from its illegality, specifically price, purity and the profits that its illegal status allowed organised crime to make.

so spare me this

No, and less of the "lol". It is juvenile.

The forum isn't about arguments, it's about discussion. Unfortunately there are some, usually people with sad and lonely lives, who use it to vent their frustrations.

Now back to doctors's safety. Nobody wants to see doctors behind Perspex screens or paramedics wearing armour or carrying weapons. So what can be done?
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

admit to being wrong

I would if I was. Now show some manners.

We're talking about a doctor being killed in the course of his work. It is not a place to indulge in the online arguments you crave.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

The UK is today poorer than it would be if it had remained

No it isn't! Living standards are increasing steadily, despite Tory depredations and being outside that trading bloc has helped hugely in sourcing energy at a time of wartime instability.

Even the city suffered unnecessary losses

And is growing again, after recovering from the failed attacks by Paris, Hamburg and Amsterdam. In fact the number of major companies trading in the LSE has increased and a couple of major ones have delisted elsewhere in the continent.

It weakened the UK

Again nonsense. It did weaken the ability of foreign companies to buy U.K. ones and has certainly weakened those companies (often state owned) from abroad who'd bid for and won infrastructure franchises but not delivered on the terms of those contracts.

Micron was literally begging for U.K. subsidy for the new reactors that the French bid to build at an unrealistic price with the intention of using EU structures to squeeze the real price later. That failed and the impact on EDF is such that energy costs in France are rising to pay for that.

They signed contracts with no intention of meeting them and now they're locked in.

Also we are nationalising buses, trains and steel in the public interest. That would not be possible were we still in that trading bloc.

This thread is however about the rise (reappearance?) of fascism in Germany. Not your delusions about trading blocs.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Ooh, snarky. As is the word "ahem".

It still looks khemetic though and perhaps I'm fortunate that nobody in my circle is weak enough to do snark.
jon357   
6 May 2025
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [356]

It's the 80th anniversary of VE Day this week with parades and celebrations. It wasn't the end of the war of course; that was still raging in the east however it's a time to reflect on those events. There are chilling parallels between the 30s and now and of course r*SSian imperialism is the big threat rather than German, though it's chilling to read about the levels of support there and in Hungary, Slovakia etc for r*SSia.

There's a good parallel. Putler is right now holding parades in Moscow and making maximalist demands, despite being on the back foot and not having good future prospects. The Germans in the last weeks and months of the third reich were much the same. Will things turn out in a similar way?

There's a good article (link below) about how deluded that regime and its helpers were.

At first, Chancellor Hitler really believed that there was still a chance, despite how unrealistic that was. There were even counteroffensives in late 1944 and he really did expect his generals whose troops were dead and ammunition depleted would be able to drive the So jets from Berlin.

Then, after his suicide, the Flensburg 'Government' of Donitz were actually making plans for the future. They genuinely believed they would be allowed to continue a Nazi administration post defeat. When it started to dawn on them that this could never happen they were even trying to negotiate a conditional surrender.

When Monty pointed out that they were in no position to request any conditions whatsoever the Nazi General that Donitz sent to Field Marshal Monty left in floods of tears.

They still couldn't accept their abject defeat and tried next to request surrender to the western Allies rather than the Soviets. This time the asked Eisenhower who also said no. Then they started trying to buy time for civilians to escape westwards from the Soviets. This of course was also unacceptable and Eisenhower told them that if they continued to delay, the western Allies would no longer accept their abject defeat surrender of German troops; they'd either be shot or sent back to the Soviet controlled areas.

Delusion, just as Putler in moscow is deluded that he had any possibility of winning, any chance that his demands will be met.

Poland was devastated by war last time and war in Europe is happening now with the aggressor threatening t make it a world war.

We should never forget those who gave their lives fighting fascism, never forget their sacrifices or the hardship on the home front.

The major powers let the Germans do the appalling things they did through complacency; they'd either could have been stopped several years before the war by robust military action when they were more vulnerable.

Should we act now more decisively against r*SSia or sit back hoping WW3 won't happen? Either way, Poland is in a geographically difficult position.

After the war, it was possible to show mercy to Germans and eventually allow them to re-establish a state; despite huge support for the nazis, some, even many, were good people and there were good things and good things in their society as well as bad. Harder to say the same about r*SSia. Besides, the zones of occupation were cripplingly expensive for decent people who'd challenged and defeated their aggression.

How true is that about r*SSia? President Wałęsa suggested reducing their population to around 40 million. That won't happen except by attrition and natural waste since two wrongs never make a right.

So what should we do?

The Third Reich's final days were marked by delusion, paranoia and despair as the Führer's regime crumbled, but even his successors didn't think the end had come

thetimes.com/uk/history/article/im-not-giving-any-more-orders-how-hitler-and-the-nazis-fell-r3rltv578

The article is by the way a very interesting read.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Then why Polish paramedics asked for those vests

Asking is not the same as needing, as well you know.

What kind of nonsense is this? lol If that was the only problem then there would be no heroine addicts

"Nonsense"? It's absolutely true; read about it.

The problems with heroin come from its legal status. As you were told, that is primarily to do with purity, price and the involvement of organised crime in its supply.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

I can't be bothered to reply to your over quoting however paramedics do not routinely need stab vests and yes, you're confusing dependence and addiction regarding gack.

Whatever the vaguely khemetic-sounding word 'ekhem' means or whatever language it's in, it's possible (and not u common among the better off) to use Heroin for many years; in fact the chemical addiction wears itself out eventually. The problems derive from its legal status and the associated costs/purity issues.

seeking and using the drug becomes their primary purpose in life."

Do you think that situation applies if a user has an uninterrupted and almost free supply of very high quality heroin?
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Presidential elections 2025 - the race has commenced!!! [665]

Grzegorz Braun

A complete crank. Sadly, as we can see from other examples like Javier Milei, trump, Berluscioni, Duterte etc, there's a type of bored and inarticulate voter who adores cranks. Poland isn't that different. Even Lepper got to be a coalition party.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

It really isn't though, is it.. Unless Bismarck was a socialist.

It really is; unless their general hospitals are for-profit, if they don't have a good welfare system and if none of their infrastructure or industry is publicly owned. Bismarck is an irrelevance. Dead for decades and good that he's dead.

Defending everything your country against all evidence

The evidence is that the economy didn't crash, food didn't disappear from the shops, London is still the main city in Europe and the main financial hub (despite attempts during the EU years by other countries to poach that and that a hostile trade bloc is no longer able to prevent nationalisation that is happening for the good of the country in a several sectors right now.

bad as it turned out to be, the suffering

"Bad" how? What "suffering" are you trying to pretend has occurred? Is it in the room with you now?
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

but there are some measures proposed to protect paramedics and medical staff that you can read about on the internet.

A better idea would be to make alcohol more expensive and have proper free treatment as well as family intervention to mitigate its harm.

Coke and weed literally have no physical withdrawal symptoms.

Exactly. Paulina is confusing dependence and addiction.

There seems to be - provided by you here:

No. You are of course wrong.

Alex Berenson disagrees.... esp the super-potent varieties

The name's not familiar to me, however if it's stronger, smoke smaller amounts. As we drink beer in pints and spirits in small glasses.

I was about to say that nobody would drink a whole bottle of vodka however in Poland, I've seen this. One of the tawdrier aspects of Polish society.

Burroughs of course took anything and everything and that didn't always serve him well.
Cocaine and weed do not even come close in this ability to kill you.

Indeed. Even heroin if you have a regular supply that isn't cut with nasties. Problems associated with heroin tend to involve withdrawal, inaccurate dosage, and low level crime caused entirely because something with an intrinsic value of 50p is selling at £20 with that money going to organised crime rather than to growers. It's a problem because it's illegal, not because of the substance's narcotic effect.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

@Paulina
As I say, I enjoy it at home in Poland legally.

If the "don't look" come looking, they can see my zaświadczenie lekarskie and my prescription and they can weep in frustration until their police uniform is stained with porcine tears.

They say it's medical however that's very often a pretext; I doubt anyone over 18 has ever been refused a script for it and the chemists that give the best deals have long queues outside for weed and almost no customers for anything else. The private clinics' websites often have racy names too, things like "zielsko247" etc and many of the doctors are either acnied with youth and doing it as a side hustle or addled with age and doing it to supplement their pension.

by the time you put it in your nose in Manhattan you are putting 10,000 other chemicals there that you probably should not be taking.

This is it. It's not bad at all unless you overuse it when it can really change people for the worse. And of course it's easily and relatively cheaply available in Czech.

About various intoxicants and stimulants, Cocaine doesn't seem to make many people violent unless there are other factors involved, marihuana certainly doesn't and nor do narcotics unless someone's in withdrawal. Billy Whizz can have some very bad effects on mood however not generally for casual connoisseurs. Sadly, that's all too common in PL where much of it is made. Alcohol is by far the worst, and paradoxically the easier to buy.

These things are only banned because of joyless American puritans in the early twentieth century. Even now a century later it's frankly bizarre that such a dangerous and socially destructive intoxicant is freely available yet in order to relax with a beneficial herb after a long day, you have to pay 100zl for a bit of paper so you can buy it and not be arrested.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

By people not getting drunk? lol

Hard to know what your 'lol' is about or how it's possible to stop people getting drunk. Even in societies where alcohol is proscribed, alcoholism exists. In fact the situation can be worse since the alcohol is unregulated, tends to be stronger and people are oess used to it. As for prohibition in America it was as big a disaster than the prohibition on marihuana and cocaine as well as narcotics in some countries tries today.

false info

Fortunately there doesn't seem to be any here.

and I don't "forgive" or forget that so easily

Whoever would have guessed...

America is a much more liberal place when it comes to drugs, than is Poland

That's changing slowly. I enjoy marihuana while at home in Poland and do so legally. And of course PL has a porous border with Czech where anything and everything is freely available.

That's one of the last stages of alcoholism.

It certainly can be. Sadly, when people are at that stage it's very hard to even sedate them since ethanol destroys certain receptors in the brain.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

If we're talking about attacks on paramedics and medical staff in Poland then I'd say it's the main problem

How would you solve it?

But

Never mind. The more worldly of us are used to occasional exculansis and forgive you.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Sure, sometimes patients can be in shock, etc

It's way more than shock in the case of serious brain trauma. It's a primal instinct to defend against attack and the patient is unaware and close to death. This happens much more than you'd think, especially after road accidents. They'd not show that on TV though.

Alcohol? Yes, it's a problem, especially solitary drinkers with steadily deteriorating mental health. Hard to know what the solution is.

You didn't share

It's always a pleasure to share knowledge with the less aware.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

a "profile" and from my observation the most typical in Poland is a drunk Polish male

I'm not sure there's an easy profile here. People lash out at health workers for all sorts of reasons. Some reasons are excusable, for example a very serious and usually fatal head injury where it is normal for patients to attack those trying to make them comfortable; this happens naturally and the patient is unaware of it. Also psychiatric patients or people with learning disabilities and challenging behaviour who can't be held responsible their actions.

In Poland however, alcohol is the elephant in the room and of all the intoxicants around, that is the most freely available and the most likely to cause violence however sometimes it's just someone's out of control personality exacerbated by whatever issues that led them to be in contact with medical professionals.

Thank you for pointing out that incredibly important info

I wouldn't say it's incredibly important however it's always a pleasure to share knowledge and experience with others.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

If any Polish TV show is based on a licensed foreign format

Many are. They only usually credit it if that's contractual. There are occasionally rip offs however C5 is notoriously litigious so hopefully not in this case.

in Poland it could be anyone male and drunk.

Or female and drunk. A police officer once told me that they can handle almost anything except women fighting.

I guess it's easier for patients to recognise intoxication with alcohol than being on drugs

With the one I saw, we first thought alcohol but there was no smell of booze. I'd guess benzos and something else rather than opiates however doctors around the world live with the temptation of opiate abuse.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Whatever it was based on or inspired by

A bit more than that; they pay for the format which is the intellectual property of C5. A bit like the TV talent shows like "Mam Talent" which belong to Simon Cowell or "Wielki Brat" which belongs to that De Mol guy. Jeden za dziesięć (like the British Fifteen to One) belongs to a French company. All are rich from licensing their product in other countries.

However yes, most fictionalised cop shows are daft.

I know that recreational fentanyl is being used by some medical personal

I've seen a doctor on duty at a well known Warsaw hospital be off his head on drugs. He was the only doctor on duty in the A&E department at that time and the nurses and patients in the corridor were afraid to go into his office. He was a surgeon...

Fentanyl? Like most other chemical drugs, it's easily available anywhere in the EU by mail order, dispatched from the Netherlands and paid for by bitcoin.

I was thinking that this is how it should be - that the police should arrive first

That sometimes happens, however I'd guess they prioritise. An old person who's had a fall at home, low priority. Someone acting up in public, high.

Is there a profile of attackers?

Probably no however there are signs. Paramedics wouldn't see those signs beforehand unless they knew the patient or there was a name they could out into a database. Even then, it's not an exact science.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

Yet they riding high in the polls

Fortunately our FPTP means that this is largely irrelevant.

had a remarkeabwle success in the local elections.

They very much did not. Only a few local authorities had elections in 2025 and Norfolk, Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire, home of the 'Turnip Taliban' and all sparsely populated were among them. In the few urban areas to have local elections they did poorly.

Brexit responsible for the biggest disaster

What 'disaster'?? It's actually turned out rather well.

biggest disaster in British history since WWII

WW2 was a disaster for you, since you started a war you could never win. For us, we won, and our victory over you ushered in a period of decolonisation, of rationalisation of industry, of breaking down class divisions, and gave us the National Health Service.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

Can you think of a socialist regime that has turned out well?

Yours is a mixed socialist and capitalist one and mine is too. Both countries are pretty decent to live in.

now I get it....

Probably the origin of the surname, North Africa via France.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

Farage - anti Islam

Quite. He does not deserve respect if he uses bigoted concepts to malign millions of people. The leader of his party, Zia Hussein, deserves even less.

It's worth mentioning that Faraj's core votes are in places where the number of Muslims (or buildings, infrastructure, culture) is vanishingly small, like Lincolnshire.

Farage - anti EU

The idea of leaving that trade bloc long predates that turd Faraj and those who voted to leave fall across the political spectrum.

but hey, that might turn out rather well also

Can you think of a fascist regime that has "turned out well". As I recall, your own fascist leader blew his brains out in a bunker, Italy's ended up swinging from a lamppost and Spain's fascist regime collapsed completely as soon as the dictator dies. I
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

Better try to avoid the mocking and downtalking

What "mocking and downtalking"?

Fascists do not deserve respect.

Brexit-Chaos.

Which has actually turned out rather well.

Farage started so tiny

And still is, given last week's election results.

populists everywhere keep winning with

Huge PR by turds who make money from market volatility. Fortunately it didn't work.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1301]

what many Brits are saying now while watching the success of Farage and his Reform party

Not that much success since they've got 4% of local councillors and 0.8% of MPs.

The unusual electoral system there makes it difficult for them. That and basic human decency; even staunch Conservatives in some areas were tactically voting Labour in the local elections to keep them out. It's worth mentioning that the one thing they won, a byelection, was won by only 6 votes. That despite the previous MP having to resign after being jailed for beating up a constituent in the street. It was an easy election for them, however they only scraped in by a majority of 6 voters.

coupled with the realisation that this party now becoming a possible factor in their home towns.

Not in mine. Most of the media were saying that they'd win it easily; in fact they lost it badly.
jon357   
6 May 2025
News / Attacks against healthcare workers in Poland [142]

Have you really not noticed that Europeans don't have to have guns to protect themselves?

I doubt any doctors' premises have them, u less it's in Mogadishu.

Niebezpieczne dzielnice" ("Dangerous Neighbourhoods

Based on the Channel 5' Police Interceptors franchise. A few countries have bought into that and it's worth watching as good background TV.. The original is about the only TV show I watch.

Well, that depends on how intoxicated the patients are and what is the level of their aggression/rage

Quite, and where alcohol is concerned peoples mood can change in a second.
jon357   
5 May 2025
History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [395]

Serbian and Slowakian presidents have just announced that they will not go to the May 9th

Lukashenko of Belarus said he wouldn't attend either, but is now saying that he might be late

I wonder which of his doubles Putler will send.

A day to avoid central m*scow, especially with the advances in drone techn9logy...