Oathbreaker
12 Dec 2021
History / Chances of Moscow becoming part of Poland again? [102]
@Cojestdocholery
Either way, any chances of Moscow being part of Poland conquered or in union is irrelevant. As it didn't lead to any fruitation. Later on Catherine Tsarina contributed to being only one major slavic state instead of two. From Russian perspective most likely great! Cause Russians got monopoly basically fighting for slavic interests, but also reducing chances of any long term alliances that wouldn't threaten Russians to such a degree like conflicts with Sweden/Germany/Ottomon Empire which was at it's worst during ww2 when slavic continued existance was questioned.
For Russia to develope, she needs security, peace and less pressure from the west. Problem is that Russia seems any initiative from Poland as western initiative and not Polish initiative. Most of the west doesn't give a damn about Russia really, unless used for internal affairs (blame Russia etc bla bla)
For Poland and Russia to increase stability among slavic states, a good agreement needs to be made about Ukraine (with the aim for her to grow to increase each others prospects and capabilities)
And having a stronger slavic state in the south in the balkans, problem is that due to the Yugoslav civil war which lead to a break up. The option of a unified slavic state in the south is out of the question that would be large enough to co-operate with.
But instead, petty squabbles over Crimea and who gets to have most influence in Belarus seems more important now. It would require a great statesman to be able to make it happen, and currently I can't seem to think of any being able to push something like that through at the moment
@Cojestdocholery
Either way, any chances of Moscow being part of Poland conquered or in union is irrelevant. As it didn't lead to any fruitation. Later on Catherine Tsarina contributed to being only one major slavic state instead of two. From Russian perspective most likely great! Cause Russians got monopoly basically fighting for slavic interests, but also reducing chances of any long term alliances that wouldn't threaten Russians to such a degree like conflicts with Sweden/Germany/Ottomon Empire which was at it's worst during ww2 when slavic continued existance was questioned.
For Russia to develope, she needs security, peace and less pressure from the west. Problem is that Russia seems any initiative from Poland as western initiative and not Polish initiative. Most of the west doesn't give a damn about Russia really, unless used for internal affairs (blame Russia etc bla bla)
For Poland and Russia to increase stability among slavic states, a good agreement needs to be made about Ukraine (with the aim for her to grow to increase each others prospects and capabilities)
And having a stronger slavic state in the south in the balkans, problem is that due to the Yugoslav civil war which lead to a break up. The option of a unified slavic state in the south is out of the question that would be large enough to co-operate with.
But instead, petty squabbles over Crimea and who gets to have most influence in Belarus seems more important now. It would require a great statesman to be able to make it happen, and currently I can't seem to think of any being able to push something like that through at the moment