p3undone
3 Dec 2012
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Donald Tusk,who are these "known" Nazis?
Donald Tusk,who are these "known" Nazis?
p3undone
3 Dec 2012
News / Goodbye Rzeczpospolita, Goodbye Uwazam Rze! Killed by Tusk. [25]
Varsovian,how exactly is Tusk acting like Putin in this regard?
Varsovian,how exactly is Tusk acting like Putin in this regard?
p3undone
3 Dec 2012
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Foreigner4,True,but you get the essential gist.As for the first part,you keep asking people what are people doing to stop it if they feel it is wrong.my point is that no matter what they are doing if it's wrong then its wrong.That's all I'm saying
Foreigner4,True,but you get the essential gist.As for the first part,you keep asking people what are people doing to stop it if they feel it is wrong.my point is that no matter what they are doing if it's wrong then its wrong.That's all I'm saying
p3undone
3 Dec 2012
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Foreigner4,Again,I'm just curios as to why it's important what people do;to be able to feel that something is wrong.And even if someone were a hypocrite;if he/she were to tell you that smoking is harmful to your health;does it change the fact that cigarette smoking is harmful to your health.
Foreigner4,Again,I'm just curios as to why it's important what people do;to be able to feel that something is wrong.And even if someone were a hypocrite;if he/she were to tell you that smoking is harmful to your health;does it change the fact that cigarette smoking is harmful to your health.
p3undone
1 Dec 2012
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p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,Thanks for the honesty,I believe you.
Foreigner4,Thanks for the honesty,I believe you.
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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TommyG,I would be for a ban to use it under those circumstances.
TommyG,I would be for a ban to use it under those circumstances.
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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I am not a scientist,so I can't tell you when it becomes a functioning human so too speak.Other than mitigating circumstances;I think it is wrong.You have already stated that you don't believe that it should be used as birth control.So the way I see it,we are pretty much on the same page
I am not a scientist,so I can't tell you when it becomes a functioning human so too speak.Other than mitigating circumstances;I think it is wrong.You have already stated that you don't believe that it should be used as birth control.So the way I see it,we are pretty much on the same page
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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You couldn't have read my reply that laid out my take on it.You could say that if a man never ends up having sex that he is a potential murderer by that logic,his sperm will die when he dies.Bacteria is life,where do you draw the line.When you eat it's at the expense of life.
You couldn't have read my reply that laid out my take on it.You could say that if a man never ends up having sex that he is a potential murderer by that logic,his sperm will die when he dies.Bacteria is life,where do you draw the line.When you eat it's at the expense of life.
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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Preventing a life is not the same as taking a life.It becomes semantics to suggest that imo.
Preventing a life is not the same as taking a life.It becomes semantics to suggest that imo.
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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Ok,in fairness to foreigner4 him and I have debated this silly.I know where he is coming from and although I don't completely agree with him we do have some similarities in our outlook..I wanted you to read where I explained my take on it.
I don't agree that using contraception can be considered murder.Do you consider masturbation murder?
Ok,in fairness to foreigner4 him and I have debated this silly.I know where he is coming from and although I don't completely agree with him we do have some similarities in our outlook..I wanted you to read where I explained my take on it.
I don't agree that using contraception can be considered murder.Do you consider masturbation murder?
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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TommyG, LOL fair enough,read some of my replies to Foreigner4 on the previous page.I lay it out succinctly.Can you do that at least?
TommyG, LOL fair enough,read some of my replies to Foreigner4 on the previous page.I lay it out succinctly.Can you do that at least?
p3undone
25 Nov 2012
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TommyG,I'll tell you what as long as your not going to try and belittle me;believe me I'm quite apt at doing this as well,but I don't even if it is done to me.The other request I have is that you read some of my prior posts because I really don't want to explain it again.What do you say?
TommyG,I'll tell you what as long as your not going to try and belittle me;believe me I'm quite apt at doing this as well,but I don't even if it is done to me.The other request I have is that you read some of my prior posts because I really don't want to explain it again.What do you say?
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,I've been straight up with you on this;can't you afford me the same courtesy?For old times sake lol:).If you don't want to that's cool,I do understand where you are coming from and believe it or not I can respect that,even if I don't completely agree.This is why I say that I don't judge.It is a very similar take that you and I have in that particular respect.I can express that I feel that is wrong,and to say that I'm as morally opposed to it as I would be in how to fix something is unfair since you don't know me,but I can respect that too,because you don't know me.I have thoroughly enjoyed debating you;believe it or not.
Foreigner4,I've been straight up with you on this;can't you afford me the same courtesy?For old times sake lol:).If you don't want to that's cool,I do understand where you are coming from and believe it or not I can respect that,even if I don't completely agree.This is why I say that I don't judge.It is a very similar take that you and I have in that particular respect.I can express that I feel that is wrong,and to say that I'm as morally opposed to it as I would be in how to fix something is unfair since you don't know me,but I can respect that too,because you don't know me.I have thoroughly enjoyed debating you;believe it or not.
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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wibblywobbly,but it's not like you don't have a choice in getting that far.Otherwise people wouldn't be able to wait until they wanted kids.You can use protection.
wibblywobbly,but it's not like you don't have a choice in getting that far.Otherwise people wouldn't be able to wait until they wanted kids.You can use protection.
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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wibblywobbly,I agree that it is tough,but you have to think about it before you start in the first place.You full well know that a resulting pregnancy is a distinct possibility,whether you think it won't happen to you or not.
wibblywobbly,I agree that it is tough,but you have to think about it before you start in the first place.You full well know that a resulting pregnancy is a distinct possibility,whether you think it won't happen to you or not.
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,As a poster and a mod,I like the way you try to insinuate that I had a problem with Gabi's answer;I never did.I had a problem with the fact that you said she answered the question that you wouldn't.That's fine though,because it establishes that you don't think that it's wrong to think that it's wrong,in the case of abortion.I say as a mod and a poster,drop your ego and answer me this.What is the similarity in our view?What is your complete take?or will you not lay it out as I have?
Foreigner4,As a poster and a mod,I like the way you try to insinuate that I had a problem with Gabi's answer;I never did.I had a problem with the fact that you said she answered the question that you wouldn't.That's fine though,because it establishes that you don't think that it's wrong to think that it's wrong,in the case of abortion.I say as a mod and a poster,drop your ego and answer me this.What is the similarity in our view?What is your complete take?or will you not lay it out as I have?
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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How could I lay that out?I have known several woman who have strongly regretted having had abortions.If you're trying to get me to say that the decision should be easy for them,of course I wouln't say that,but I've answered enough of your questions,how about answering some of mine?Fair enough?
How could I lay that out?I have known several woman who have strongly regretted having had abortions.If you're trying to get me to say that the decision should be easy for them,of course I wouln't say that,but I've answered enough of your questions,how about answering some of mine?Fair enough?
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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When I say out of inconvenience I mean in the way that I have stated numerous times in this thread.Because I may not be militant about it,doesn't mean that I can't think that it is wrong.If a woman were to ask me do I think that abortion is wrong,I would say yes,but she would have to live with whatever decision she makes.Take away mitigating circumstances and what do you have left?
When I say out of inconvenience I mean in the way that I have stated numerous times in this thread.Because I may not be militant about it,doesn't mean that I can't think that it is wrong.If a woman were to ask me do I think that abortion is wrong,I would say yes,but she would have to live with whatever decision she makes.Take away mitigating circumstances and what do you have left?
p3undone
24 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,It equates to murder imo,but I wouldn't classify a woman who has had an abortion as a murderer because of societal conditioning and you have to be aware to be culpable.That is the best way that I can answer that honestly.I don't judge nor chastise,because I'm not in a woman's shoes.I still feel that it is wrong.Am I disgusted by women who have had abortions?No.Would I be angry if a woman I had impregnated had an abortion with out my consent?Absolutely,because I would raise the child and would not want to be deprived of that chance.If they ever come to the conclusion as to whether or not the fetus is A human being;or in the case of late stage,other than for a mitigating circumstance,then I say that will be intentional murder.
Foreigner4,It equates to murder imo,but I wouldn't classify a woman who has had an abortion as a murderer because of societal conditioning and you have to be aware to be culpable.That is the best way that I can answer that honestly.I don't judge nor chastise,because I'm not in a woman's shoes.I still feel that it is wrong.Am I disgusted by women who have had abortions?No.Would I be angry if a woman I had impregnated had an abortion with out my consent?Absolutely,because I would raise the child and would not want to be deprived of that chance.If they ever come to the conclusion as to whether or not the fetus is A human being;or in the case of late stage,other than for a mitigating circumstance,then I say that will be intentional murder.
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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You dove in on my conversation with Orpheus and seemed to have no problem with it.It wasn't in invalid question and you know it.You wouldn't answer it because had you,then you know how it would have shaped future replies from me.I think that abortion under the circumstances I have laid out is very wrong,but I have to say short of intentional murder;for complex reasons..
You dove in on my conversation with Orpheus and seemed to have no problem with it.It wasn't in invalid question and you know it.You wouldn't answer it because had you,then you know how it would have shaped future replies from me.I think that abortion under the circumstances I have laid out is very wrong,but I have to say short of intentional murder;for complex reasons..
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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Nice try,no cigar,I asked you that question and not her,and in it she didn't say that it was wrong to think that it is wrong.You wanted to answer that question and I know what it would have been.You called it flawed from a debating standpoint.Let's drop the egos and honestly answer the question.You answer that and I will answer yours.
Nice try,no cigar,I asked you that question and not her,and in it she didn't say that it was wrong to think that it is wrong.You wanted to answer that question and I know what it would have been.You called it flawed from a debating standpoint.Let's drop the egos and honestly answer the question.You answer that and I will answer yours.
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,First of all I'm not chastising anyone,people will do what they will.I don't judge people,though I may judge their actions.Why do people get angry about it if they don't feel there is anything wrong with it.What do I do about it,I make sure that I don't get a woman pregnant,if I did I am quite willing to raise the child.I am not going to pro choice rallies.Or suggesting that it rests squarely on the mother,so in this I'm clearly showing that I don't support it under the circumstances I have laid out.You say that your not one way or the other yet,here you are passionately arguing for one side.If you were neutral as you claim;you would bring up points from both sides or neither..
Foreigner4,First of all I'm not chastising anyone,people will do what they will.I don't judge people,though I may judge their actions.Why do people get angry about it if they don't feel there is anything wrong with it.What do I do about it,I make sure that I don't get a woman pregnant,if I did I am quite willing to raise the child.I am not going to pro choice rallies.Or suggesting that it rests squarely on the mother,so in this I'm clearly showing that I don't support it under the circumstances I have laid out.You say that your not one way or the other yet,here you are passionately arguing for one side.If you were neutral as you claim;you would bring up points from both sides or neither..
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,I think it is wrong;no more no less.GabiDaHun,no matter what I would do about it,I can still say that I think it is wrong.
Foreigner4,I think it is wrong;no more no less.GabiDaHun,no matter what I would do about it,I can still say that I think it is wrong.
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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GabiDaHun,such as do what?I myself think it is wrong for abortion under the circumstances I've continually outlined on this thread.I would respect whatever the law decides,but I still think that it is wrong.If someone were to ask me if I thought it was wrong,then I would say the same thing and explain why no more no less.There is nothing wrong with that.
GabiDaHun,such as do what?I myself think it is wrong for abortion under the circumstances I've continually outlined on this thread.I would respect whatever the law decides,but I still think that it is wrong.If someone were to ask me if I thought it was wrong,then I would say the same thing and explain why no more no less.There is nothing wrong with that.
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,I wasn't asking from the standpoint of the mother.Do you think it is wrong for anyone to think that it is wrong?Straight forward yes or no.
Foreigner4,I wasn't asking from the standpoint of the mother.Do you think it is wrong for anyone to think that it is wrong?Straight forward yes or no.
p3undone
23 Nov 2012
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Foreigner4,So do you think that it is wrong to think that it is wrong?
Foreigner4,So do you think that it is wrong to think that it is wrong?