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milky   
8 Feb 2012
News / Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity? [142]

A return to the USSR... That was as close as you'll ever get to a Slavic Union. Those interested in such regression, either have problems with their sexual identity or had no relationship with their absent father. Or they didn't win any meddles in the three legged race.
milky   
26 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]

When we are talking about East and West, we are talking about communism/capitalism.

So, Sean, when we at home speak of Westbrits, does that mean that the people around Dublin are capitalist and the rest communist.(joking)
milky   
26 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]

[quote=SeanBM] Lithuania.[/qua name ote]
What's the mentality there.
When you cut away the surplus babble, I think the West is just a Smurf word for modernity. Maybe when a Pole gets rid of his tractor and ploughs his field with a horse, he is looking eastward.
milky   
22 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Starting to base that on 2 wage earners is suicidal as the chance of both being stable over the period of a 20 year loan are very low.

yes, I have already stated this to the lads, but they seem to ignore.

As for having kids well someone has too, otherwise there is nothing quite look a population decline to reduce house prices long term !

There is a major population decline in process. Especially in Poland B.
milky   
21 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

This thread is rapidly descending into nonsense

I agree, I'll ignore the slander from now on.

Average wage is 3000, multiply by 12 and it's 36k. Use an earnings multiple of 3x and it is 108 k. Add a 20 percent deposit and you get to about 130 k.

yes, the above is logical and true.
milky   
21 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Nowadays it is going to destroy the planet in super quick time

That's for sure;basically the id is king.

The psyche of the Poles and the East Germans is completely different.

It's the same in Ireland,after centuries of imperialist domination everyone wants to own their own bit of turf; It's understandable, but! easily exploited by gombeen men.

as for the Chinese
youtube.com/watch?v=w11nywVY9Vc
milky   
21 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

no one is talking about refusing to work hard

Reminds me of this book
wesjones.com/ehrenreich.htm
she speaks about how middle class America was simply guilty of playing by the rules of modern day capitalism.
People worked longer hours,extra hard, took bigger and bigger mortgages for escalating house prices, sent their children to extra classes, etc etc and then bang. The manipulators behind the scenes were pulling the strings all along. Reminds me of Bertrand Russell and his views on the protestant work ethic. He believed the preachers of it(PW-ethic) were actually members of the idle rich.
milky   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Still wondering where Milky's imaginary 5 bedroom houses are for 3x salary in Ireland, though.

Well this one is just two years average industrial wage:

daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=629977

and here's a 5 bedroom

daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=619789

and then for 15 times the average indusrial you can get this

daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=597552

and 15 time average industrial wage lublin

domy.pl/apartment-for-sale-lublin-inne,en,918071327
milky   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

As for kids - plenty of time for that later.

newly married couple usually have a kid(s) within the first year or two,,,so?? Where do the kids go?? How many time their yearly salary did the married couples pay for their 'no room for kids apartment'??

I'll ignore the last comment as I'm not an American called Mark. I'm Irish so 'Téigh trasna ort féin '
milky   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

So you're comparing a country which went through two vicious wars on her territory, went through several regime changes and was bankrupt in the late 80's to a country which by the time you had moved there - was a superpower and incredibly wealthy. It's really not a fair comparison, is it?

The guy 'is' Polish and he is simply saying it as it is.

they're still a decent size for young couples

So have they kids?? young couples tend to reproduce? How many sleep in the sitting-room??

she worked her ass off and gave up parties and beer for ACCA textbooks.

so how many time her salary did she or your 'friends' pay for (their)her apartment?? how many hours over 39 does she work? 11k into the hand?? Is 27 suppose to be very young or something- I know people who had several houses by that age.

They still live with their parents? That's obviously a lifestyle choice in today's Poland.

pathetic statement.

Your friend didn't do well in life, did she?

All of them are uneducated, lazy (they go to work and come back at the same time every day) and clearly have no hope in life

Spoke like a true blue blooded Tory.
milky   
20 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this picture is, looking from here?

Good honest post.
I can verify that this is the situation for many people today. Two and sometime even three generations living in the one tiny apartment. I always knew, that due to the economically disastrous situation, that, many home had three generation but I didn't believe that it was the case with even apartments,until I saw it several times with my own eyes.

no wonder the guy below is a Nazi
..

I reckon the percentage of couples sleeping in their sitting-rooms due to children occupying the one bedroom, is astonishingly high. Must be a horrible situation for these poor people.
milky   
20 Jan 2012
News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

There seems to be a division between the loons with the cross, and the trendies slagging the church. The truth is not somewhere in between, both sides are blind to Poland's grey reality.
milky   
19 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

you can't argue with supply and demand

YES you can!! especially when its rigged, Developers buying up land and leaving it purposely idle,(keep supply down) .And governments getting elected on phony promises of providing much needed housing, and instead!!offering grants to help naive people avail of bubble prices,

The invisible hand is in a diamond glove.
milky   
19 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Renting is much cheaper than buying right now in Poland

YES,this is fact by along shot.

You can have a car, but give up the driving to work. Saves a lot of cash.

oh no,wtf

people from the West hardly bought much compared to what the Poles bought.

I think he means, money in general coming from the west. Poles abroad, foreign investors etc (sick of making this point)

And people seem to manage just fine in the UK with living outside cities - why is Poland so important?

Because!!!!in context, petrol is 3 or 4 time more expensive in Poland.NO?
milky   
19 Jan 2012
News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

our lack of faith must come as a great comfort to you in these troubling times

Well, I balance my irrational and rational forces a little,In fact, I find the views of celeb atheist like Dawkins patronizing(at times) and pedantic', while the views of people like Karen Armstrong to be quite liberating.

I do not want to get a bad rep for bullying you

Go on say it , I don't mind. I don't mind all the personal attacks on my home and family situation from people who think I'm some American living in Krakow. It's abstract and hysterically funny for me;now!!! if people 'actually new me' and personally attacked my home and family, I would get to know them......

first rule of being an expat in Poland, don't bash the church.

I will heed your advice,thank you man.

people here need to shake of their ultra conservative view(s),

Sorry, I should have said 'SOME'. Most Pole I know don't dance to the the tune of radio maria.

If she was offending Buddhists, Jewish or Muslims the verdict should be the same.

And that's wrong.

This threat exists everywhere, even in liberal countries.

I agree....the Neo-Liberals have made the international mess.

You wanna spread hate?
No, I don't even listen to Radio Maria, I leave that job to them.
[quote=hythorn]without the church, Poland would not have survived

According to Czesław Miłosz,the same can be said about Russia and how they rebuilt the (Poland)country.
milky   
19 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

ielki pan:Hear, hear!

I agree.

But giving up your car would entail new costs - for instance access to the cheapest food is in hypers, access to the cheapest furtniture requires visiting out of town places. Add in an extra bus cost (because you would still need that within the town) and is it worth it ?

Yes good point, it's patronizing when you here people from the west telling Poles, they should wear cheap clothes,travel by bus and eat bread and water so they can afford property that was bubbled by the west.
milky   
19 Jan 2012
News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

As an Atheist, I'm a little freaked out here sometimes, at how dependent the Polish people are on Christianity.In fairness, I do like reading about myths and legend as it is a spiritually rewarding exercise; even for a non believer. However, this country in my view, is just the lingering homeland of the old European right wing...., back to basics,Tea party,DUP type of thing. Saying that, PO,The modern Right(f0ck who you want but economics stay they same) are in power,so in relation to parliament the norm is king here.

I believe, like in Ireland(another victim of imperialism), Poland simply has a a very strong regressive nature due to its authoritarian past; but many Poles seem nationalistically grounded in Christianity, where as the Irish, they(we) don't have to look back very far in history to see a time when Christianity was just another 'invader'.

Poland need to accelerate asap out of the darkness; people here need to shake of their ultra conservative view(s), and wake up to the 21st century or at least the late 20th century;because if not,and the world economic down-turn continues, countries like this, could end up electing some dangerously reactionary old right wing party, and end up putting a lot of people in danger; Radio Maria viewers,I say no more.

In relation to this women getting a fine etc, I think people need to launch a counter attack,sort of like Father Ted in Ireland. Time to start laughing at the bastards, and hopefully the laughing will become contagious; even, to the extent that the the 'I don't knows' join in.
milky   
17 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

This is the single most insightful thing I've read on this thread.

He is partially right,But! he fails to include(the main players) the external forces that manipulated the situation for there own private gain, like banks, privatisation,EU membership,shock therapy.

or
The property buying age group 7.5 million; how many(50%) have emigrated(or seasonally) and what percentage of those who stayed are unemployed.
To blame the older generation for the bubble is like blaming the Irish for causing the great famine.
milky   
16 Jan 2012
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

renting is common there and isn't seen as an issue.

yes,renting would be better for sure, if protected by democratic laws,

it really is time to give it up.

easy for you to say.

women have a desire to get pregnant as soon as possible here, and I've seen several couples where they've let the hormones take over - and as a result, they'll probably be forever renting.

and where is this not the case?