History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [503]


80s/90s - a lot of dairy products: pierogi ruskie (lol), leniwe, milk soup, pancakes with cottage cheese, cream or vanilla budyń for dessert; apart from that a lot of gulash and chicken, rather decent soups (nothing like what we had at home but edible) and always some sort of fruit kompot. Now that I think of it, it was quite decent but back then I never really enjoyed the meals at our school canteen because my mom was a great cook and I was spoiled at home.

Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]


Yes. Bobi is resurrecting all the Polonophobic threads in vain hope of hurting our feelings. We, however, remain as unflappable as Buddha himself. :)

Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

@Bobko

Because such threads are allowed sometimes (or even posted on purpose) to enliven the forum a bit. A kind of officially supported trolling.

There wasn't always war in Ukraine to ensure traffic for the board. Enough said :)

News / Unfulfilled promises by PiS [559]


That explains why Amiga thinks economy is so much better now than it used to be - he doesn't live here and doesn't have to deal with the exorbitant inflation.

And, judging by Kaczyński's 'electoral sausage' promises, we can expect even higher inflation if they win the election. The only upside of them winning the election will be the strengthening of the army; if PO wins they will most likely abandon most defensive projects.

Life / Poles - the Nation of Liars? [478]

Not only possible but certain. We also acquired the reputation of heavy drinkers for the same reason.

Life / Poor hygiene of people in public places in Poland [46]

Poles are champion drinkers?

67th place in the world in alcohol consumption, and 102nd in alcohol dependence...

wisevoter.com/country-rankings/alcohol-consumption-by-country/

... some champions! :)


Two is hardly multiple but it's nice to be considered an oligarch once in my life. :D

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


You overestimate Polish influence on the West.

We were a relatively "new" country back then: patched together from pieces of the lands of three partitions, quite poor with a large part of population living in abject poverty (in the part of Poland where my paternal grandfather's family comes from, people were emigrating to Romania (!) in search for better life), and torn by internal conflicts. Also, we were at odds with all of our neighbours, with the exception of Hungary and Romania, and had numerous but largely outdated army.

I'm afraid our diplomatic influence over anybody back then was almost nonexistent.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Pawian thinks that the Americans would have won the war and liberated Poland anyway, without the Soviet help. I wouldn't be so sure about that.

And if they stopped and made separate peace with Germany after liberating Italy and France? And what if the Western front alone hadn't been enough and German armies, not tied in the East, had repelled the American invasion? Would western allies really care about the Endlosung of the Polish Question (that would definitely start right after the Jewish holocaust)? I wouldn't have held my breath, considering that they didn't even care enough about the Holocaust to bomb the rail tracks leading to Auschwitz and other concentration camps (even though they were begged for it by Jewish organisations), and they had means to easily do it (they bombed a lot of industrial facilities and military targets right next to those camps).

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]


Thank you. I thought the numbers would be higher. Interesting.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]


What? Maybe she meant tears of joy?


In Eastern Europe, probably not. You could even find some examples of this in Central Europe - like with PiS voters in Poland - "they steal but at least they give money for children, give us the 13th and 14th pension, build a lot of infrastructure etc." - without analysing things like taxes, inflation, currency value etc. This I can understand. But still, PiS voter base is something like about 30% (and dwindling). What is the popular support for Putin and United Russia?

Also, PiS supporters will defend their party and believe any lie they hear from Kaczyński - they don't "disdainfully ignore" the lies but rather mindlessly swallow them like young pelicans. Luckily they are a minority (30% of those who go to vote is more like 20% of all voters - 1/5th).

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]


Hmm... when I hear all those babushkas on YouTube, explaining to me how great Putin is, I have my doubts. But very well, let's assume - just for the sake of argument - that what you say is accurate and that there is indeed this deep rift between Russian people and their government. Wouldn't such stark dichotomy eventually lead to... I don't know... some sort of collective schizophrenia? I mean, people would eventually either go mad or start believing those lies, embracing them as their own worldview.

Can you honestly say that it isn't anything like what's happening in Russia?

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]

Yes, you've got a point there.

However, I don't buy this Russian "specific feeling towards truth". Since the advent of communism your people tolerated, or even embraced, such an amount of pure lies on every level that they had to have some propensity towards it before.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]

I'll give you a fairly recent example of what I mean...

Soviet 1st Belarussian Front HQ in winter 1945:

"Guys, come to us for the talks; there's a lot of things we need to discuss. The German defeat is coming soon and we have to consult you on some very important matters. Oh, come on now - you have our full warrant of safety. It's not like we're going to imprison you, transport to Moscow and stage a fake trial against you there!"

Polish Secret State and underground army leaders:

"Just some peaceful talks? Warrant of safety? OK. Very well then - let's go talk to the Russians."

*rolls eyes*


Yip. The most disastrous schoolboy mistake - start believing your own propaganda.

Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [414]


This very forum, for example. Remember how your buddy Velund lied through his teeth that the Russian forces along Ukrainian borders are there merely on exercise. He said this until the very day of invasion! Now, he's not a complete and utter idiot to have believed that, so he must have been lying.

Also, since the beginning of this war your media and government officials spat out such a river of lies that it would shock even the most cunning Tatar.


Hmm... fairly recent, I'd say. Before that it was as you say - naive and lazy were the main stereotypes but there was always this hint of a "cunning Asian" behind it. There is a good PhD there somewhere, for some diligent and unbiased researcher.

Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]


Erm... I dunno... they are good at poetry, love songs, lying and drinking, and they should stick to that. Hygiene and dental care sound like something a German and a Swiss might discuss with great passion, but a Pole and a Russian? Not really.

Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]

Another twelve year old thread resurrected just to hurt our precious feelings. :D You're horrible, Bobko! I think I shall call you Bobspana from now on.

Unfortunately for Russia, no matter how few bidets Poles have, how much our arses smell and how rotten our teeth are, you will still lose this war, Putin is still a cowardly war criminal and Russian footballers/hockeyist can play with their d*cks but not in the European/World competitions. Just to put things in perspective. :)

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Yes, their country got invaded and their closed ones killed. That's why it's completely understandable that they got angry because of that. For the reason of this anger, they gathered together and formed an angry mob to stop the ambassador from laying flowers in the cemetery. When people are angry and they form a mob, then that's what we call angry mob. What's your problem?



Now, let's not get too emotional here. Neither my Russophilia (which I never denied but which was severely weakened by this nonsensical war and numerous Russian war crimes) nor my evident lack of deep romantic love for a certain segment of Ukrainian society (which I like to tenderly call banderopithecs) are even remotely relevant here. There are laws and international conventions that we - as a Latin civilisation country - have to follow. Dura lex sed lex and all that.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


You can't know this. That's the whole point in being a secret agent. :)


He does it quite well himself without needing any help from me in this matter.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


My solution is simple: the police should have dispersed the mob and make it possible for the embassy delegation to lay flowers. As I said, either we are hosts in our own country or we allow angry Ukrainian mob to run things.

There would have been no such problem if we had followed the example of Lithuania and had broken the relations with Russia, but as long as the official relations are maintained we have to follow the law and international conventions.


No, but we have been providing substantial help for Ukrainian war effort, which could easily be interpreted as a hostile act and "spontaneous protests" staged to make it impossible for our delegation to visit Katyń last month. No such thing happened.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


What? Pawian, you are getting old and demented - when have I ever proved anything on this board??? Don't be ridiculous. :)


It's not about proportions really but about this pesky little feeling that we didn't do our duty as hosts towards our guests because other guests decided that they don't like it. As a host in my own country I feel a bit uneasy about it. Oh, well...


The right of Russian embassy to honour their war cemetery was denied, with stark violation to both the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and Ustawa o grobach i cmentarzach wojennych - that's my problem. We are either a lawful country and hosts in our own land or we allow angry Ukrainian mob to run things. Tertium non datur.

*off to get some sleep* Good night.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]


Probably Lukashenka invented a new way of smuggling muslim immigrants into Poland. The baloon has probably already landed on some German field and the passengers rejoined their families in Germany. All's well that ends well.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


Exactly - a Tygodnik Powszechny, "Kościół łagiewnicki" type of guy. The Church is a 2000-year-old institution - they haven't survived for that long by putting all their eggs in one basket (PiS). Hołownia is their man in case PiS loses and the opposition takes power.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


They didn't come to protest against the war but to make it impossible for the embassy delegation to lay the flowers in the cemetery. And the police didn't do their job properly either.

As much as we all hate what Russia is doing in Ukraine the facts are simple:

1. We have laws in Poland about war graves and cemeteries (Ustawa o grobach i cmentarzach wojennych).
2. There is a Russian embassy in Poland (we didn't break diplomatic relations).
3. Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations still applies to Russian embassies in Poland and vice versa.

So, does the Russian embassador have the right to visit their war cemetery? Yes. Was the Russian delegation properly protected from the mob by the police (as they should be)? No.

It is an embarassment really, especially that a month before the incident - on 10th April - the delegation of Polish embassy in Moscow, led by the ambassador Krzysztof Krajewski, visited our cemetery in Katyń without any obstacles from the Russian side.


Patriots of Ukraine, possibly, but only guests in Poland, not the hosts - and the role of the hosts taking care of cemeteries and diplomatic relations is ours.


I'm doing what I can to keep the board alive. :)

Life / Vasectomy in Poland is illegal? Why? [123]


Yes, it is. There were too many accidents of the entire hospital wards collapsing under the sheer weight of Polish balls, so the operations had to be stopped.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]

OK, Pawian - so what's your opinion about the mob (consisting mostly of Ukrainians) not allowing Russian ambassador to lay flowers in The Soviet Military Cemetery in Warsaw recently? And of the police not doing enough to enable the Russian delegation the entrance to the cemetery?

I, for once, am deeply ashamed about the incident.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Wasn't the one in Głubczyce dedicated to the 676 soldiers who died liberating the town?


Yes. It would be a scandal and an embarassment if it wasn't the case.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Not that controversial and not that uncommon among Poles.

Pawian will disagree and probably sling some mud on me, but I really think we should leave the monuments for simple soldiers alone.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


I'm not so sure about that. The monuments of Lenin, prominent communists or Russian commanders/generals were very rightly removed, but why destroy the monuments of soldiers? After all they had very little to do with politics and gave their lives to kick Nazis out of Poland; Nazis whose objective - after murdering all the Jews - was to either exterminate Poles or turn them into slave labor force. Those soldiers defeated Wehrmacht, liberated the concentration camps and brought a kind of freedom for Poland (limited and bitter but still). Their victory meant life for Poles (both Christians and Jews) and the end of Nazi-German nightmare.

I would leave the monuments for soldiers alone. Just sayin.

News / Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics? [94]


Another Palikot or Petru, only worse because we don't really know who's pulling his strings (probably the Church), as he never revealed where the funds for his presidential campaign came from, and he seems to be mentally unstable (crying over the constiutution lol). Also, failure to get higher education these days, when even my neighbour's cat would easily get a magister degree at any uni, doesn't reflect well on the guy.


Yes, and they restrain their coalition partner from any extreme ideas (leftist or rightist). They are exactly the commonsensical, centre party that Poland needs. Too bad they joined Hołownia's ephemeral movement.

Life / Why there is always around a horrible smell of sweat in Poland [220]


WOW! You resurrected a 15-year-old thread that has been dead for over five years just to say that Poles "refuse to wash their ass".

Your evolution from a cultured, civilised poster towards an Espana-clone is truly amazing. What this board does to people! :D :D :D