News / Poland highest inflation in 20 years [319]

@amiga500
This isnt a political debate. This is fact. The Polish Deal would destroy the middle class and kill cities. I guarantee it will not fly as written. Another wager?

News / Poland highest inflation in 20 years [319]

@amiga500
Incorrect. The cities are killing it because it strips billions of tax revenue from the cities and it can not be replaced. Time for you to do some research my friend. The Polish deal is a disaster and economic killer. Middle class crushing proposal that they didnt even have vetted by real economists on how to pay for it without destroying cities. Should have been passed by now if it were so good, but it is all but dead in its proposed form.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

And now Duda, who has nothing to gain by working with PiS as a lame duck president has come out and publicly said that this is a stupid attempt to change the law. All but saying he will veto the bill if it gets to him and most think it wont get to him now. JK loosing grip on people, not just the public.

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@amiga500
Really the American flag? No one really gaf about the flag outside of the US. No one really cares about the US outside the US anymore. Take a dump on the flag, say what ever you want, and most people will say its your right. Patriotism is not in a symbol made of cloth, or stupid words.

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@amiga500
Please point a specific real instance where this happened. If its the EU saying Poland should take immigrants, then thats the EU and TVN is simply reporting. Personally I hope all the middle eastern islam extremist blow each other up before they get here.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

And now Discovery has been awarded a Dutch license and can continue to broadcast in Poland. Ways around the Polish law through the EU may just see more "press" entering the market before elections. This is exactly why PiS should have been smarter. Now anyone can enter the Polish market through another EU country, and there is nothing they can do. Controlling media, and the attempt could prove to be the final straw for PiS.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside
Clearly you have not walked the streets of Poland recently. The poor are not the ones having children now, it is the wealthy because they can afford to. 500+ does nothing for people who live in metro areas if they are poor. The cost of food now is crazy and 500+ does not account for the massive inflation PiS has caused.

But again, PiS might just want to observe the US pulling out of Afghanistan. Easily the USA left what became a situation that could not be solved. Those religious idealist will once again ruin a country and keep their people from attaining the lives they want. Extreme for sure, but no different than PiS at its core. Idealists are never successful without changing their ideals to the times. PiS could have become so much more if not for their blindness to progress.

News / Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims [200]

@Lyzko
And just how many decades does anyone need to make a claim? This law actually makes sense.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@mafketis
Veto or not, I would like to see them take the loss in court. More embarrassing publicly.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Korvinus
Just keeping the press free from the government is enough. Thats true democracy.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside
I think this time, with the TV issue, the US will act. Biden is all about the free press, and the way PiS would not recognize him as President after the elections has not been forgotten. There will be payback.

Legal action will also be taken. Poland will get clobbered again. In the mean time new tariffs on Polish goods are likely.

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@amiga500
Dziekuje bardzo for your intervention. I will sleep much easier now. Tell your GF hello for me ;-)

@Ironside
I am a realist Iron. I don't sit and listen to idealists and those that follow like little cultists. PiS is simply a group of idiots who capitalized on another group of idiots transgressions. Timing was everything. The same could easily happen again, though with Tusk I don't see it being likely. Poland will likely continue to erode freedoms and sink back into a more communist like state. Allies will leave them in the long run if the course they are on continues.

This is an attempt at consolidating power through control of information. Just like Orlen buying news outlets. Money is being thrown about and the poor people who keep voting for these idiots don't even see how the rich and powerful are getting more rich and powerful off of the poor.

Someone made a great post comparing gas price under PO and PiS. That comparison included the cost of crude oil under both. Not sure where it is. PiS and their crew are nothing more than profiteers. They talk about social justice, about laws, orders, becoming more "Polish" and sovereign. Its all talk. All a distraction to the uneducated who keep them in power in order to get a little free cash. The Polish Deal will crush the middle class and it will wipe out cities tax revenues, but all that wont be talked about if they can control the news.

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@Ironside
Actually, USA does not need most of Europe at all, and they don't need Poland. Need and want are two very different things. Wanting Poland for sake of keeping Russia on its toes is one thing, while finding a similar option in a different country that is less hostile to its biggest protector is another. What exactly does the US need Poland for? The gas idea is not really a threat, plenty of places to sell gas or store it as prices rise.

Poland is heading down an isolationist road. Just like Russia did and that has worked out so well for them.

@amiga500
All the best ones take black cards so its all good. Meanwhile your GF is looking taking he coins from the team to the bank and trying to save a few pounds for more yeast infection treatments. Must be a loaf of bread by now.

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@gumishu
Strongly favors two parties does not mean it is two parties. Sanders for instance is a independent, and I believe there is also a socialist in the government now. Not sure on that but while two parties are the norm in the US, it is not how it works. Regardless, people who dont vote usually dont get re-elected, and thats as it should be.

@amiga500
Sorry kid, not lost on anything. Remember I actually work and do business here. I am a right leaning centrist, and like some PiS policy. The problem is they are not intelligent thinkers and constantly poop where they eat. This little economic treaty they signed, with the USA filing a complaint, requires a 6 month cooling off period. If the USA presses the issue, Poland will be bent over like your GF on a Friday night with the football team.

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@gumishu
You probably dont understand that the USA is a muti party system as well, not two party.

@Ironside
You really do not have a grip on world politics. Poland's value to the USA is minimal. Germany, France, GB have real value to USA. Why? Because of industry, and deep financial ties. Poland is being lead down the path of not strengthening ties, not developing real industry and technology that the world will want.

The EU empire? The weak bonds and deepening divisions? This is no empire, it is a fragile experiment that is failing in many eyes. Imagine Poland getting tossed from the EU and the USA not having troops here. Imagine no more visa waiver to USA. Poland go back to being irrelevant.

While fighting for relevancy PiS has lost sight of doing the right things for the country, and the people in it. The new Polish Deal is a tax disaster, their own local governments are screaming about it. There is no way to replace the tax revenue that cities will see disappear. The middle class will be gutted financially, and the wealthy will simply carry on, or move the profitable business to more friendly countries like Slovakia. I already know someone who moved a very profitable company out of Poland to the Czech Rep because of this scheme, and they moved all key workers with it. So not only is the corporate tax gone from Poland, but all those other taxes just disappeared along with all the daily money being spent in the community.

What happens when the USA see's this business strategy of moving to different and more friendly countries? All those great call centers disappear. Think Amazon wont be influenced, or Intel, or any other number of large employers owned by US corporations. Yep, tell the USA to buggar off and Poland will be the one getting buggared.

But then there is this pesky little treaty about business dealings that Poland has signed with the USA that Discovery will now use to take legal action against Poland. Think this wont heat up quickly? PiS brought a dull kitchen knife to a gun fight.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside
In the USA if you don't vote, you don't get reelected in most cases. In Poland it is the cowards way of saying they are not strong enough to voice their own opinion and they are afraid of the bully in the room. Voting would be punching the bully in the mouth which is what needs to happen.

You really have no clue about the American economy. USA does not need Poland to buy gas. USA can easily rebuild strategic gas reserves without Poland, and cut gas prices at home in doing so. Poland needs discounted American gas and other items.

Get a grip on your NATO opinion. NATO doesn't exist without the USA. You have a distorted view of Europe and Poland. Anyone thinking Europe or Poland can stand alone against Russia needs to back away from the bong. And if Poland moves its military or reduces its commitment to Poland, Poland will become an easy target for Russian influence. The house of cards that is PiS would see the country in ruin. Poland can not stand on its own, and anyone not seeing this reality is either Ray Charles or PiS blind.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside
A man or woman who has an obligation to represent the people that put them in power who does not vote should be immediately removed from his or her position. They are obligated and they are cowards. This is how real people do business and real law is enforced. The are part of the "Law and Justice" group? That is injustice to those that support them and the cowards way out.

The US needs Poland for nothing. Nivea maybe, and thats about it. Poland buying what from USA? Tanks? Only because they are required to spend money on defense. Who else they going to buy from Canada? Ukraine maybe? You are blind to see Poland has no real economic impact on the USA. If USA moves troops to Romania, and stops or lowers investment is Poland, Poland is a target for takeover once again.

This is what JK wants though. A return to meat coupons, and socialist ways. Where everyone is equal, unless you have some power and influence and then you have the good life. Every person in PiS is a closet communist. Those in office are thieves and those taking money from PiS for their votes are no better. It is sad to see such a promising country be turned to the past when the past is nothing but failure.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500
This is where you clearly dont understand how Americans think in business. Mess with our money and we will go to great lengths to make sure you suffer for it. I use this mentality every day, and Poles simply dont understand take no prisoners approach to business. This is why the measure of success in Poland is so much lower than in the USA. There is no compete in Poland, only roadblocks to progress that always eventually fall.

@gumishu
Yes, and about half a million drunk parents went without their morning monkey until 500+ too

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Now in true PiS style, with Konfedracja not voting like the cowards they are, the bill passes in a late night session. Now TVN will probably sell the majority stake to another friendly EU country who will be even more critical of PiS. Along with the US potentially moving troops to Romania instead of Poland. This leadership will financially kill this country.

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Konfederacja not voting is cowardly

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And PiS cant even keep their group together on the eve of the vote. Gowin takes his group and leaves. JK and the amateur boys are pooping the bed every day. The old ways can not rule the future, they have already failed time and time again. PiS simply needs to be put to death.

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@Zabka702
It will be impossible to set things up the way you want.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500
Actually no language test for citizenship by decent. TVN24 is not the topic of discussion, and you are too smart to even suggest that the US wont slap Poland around if this license cancelation actually happens. PiS will back down, they will find an exception, or they will feel what it is like to be a red headed step child that just burnt down the house. Poland is the rebellious child screaming for attention and acting out, and now the United States (daddy) noticed and its time for a spanking. I think the child runs and hides before his @$$ gets beat.

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@jon357
Sorry I should have used my sarcasm font

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500
LOL yes, and TVPiS is now advocating for JK sainthood upon his death.

And Orban who is in bed with Putin, wants to bring Poland along for the threesome. The fly buzzing Hungary is not an insect, it may be a drone though.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500
Birth rates are continuing to trend down across the country. Since you haven't been to these areas recently, I see a whole lot more new babies in the cities than in the countryside in my daily travels.

I vote for the lesser evil in elections. I never have been a "party" person. Towing the "party line" is for sheep. I voted for Bill Clinton because he had real plans for the economy. I voted for Bush because I felt he was better for the safety of the country. Those Presidents had real plans, and real smart advisers around them. Neither fell into the far left or right in policy. In Poland, the same is not true. It is extreme left or right, and they divide the country like Trump and Biden. The difference in Poland is that the PiS demographic is shrinking not only in number due to death, but due to massive numbers of people leaving the church. They have even admitted as much on TVPiS.

Not a whole lot of news now about TV licensing. But the US has banned some high profile Hungarian political officials from entering the US in the last few weeks in order to show Orban who is in charge. Message being sent to Poland? Imagine what happens to PiS if the US pulls the Visa waiver for Poles?

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And Polands New Deal real costs starting to be exposed by cities in Poland. Again, PiS is not capable of managing an economy.

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@amiga500
You make some good points here. Numbers for the elections are a very good thing regardless of which side wins. Active participation in democracy is a great thing.

That said, PiS themselves have admitted that their wheelhouse is in the poor, under educated, and religious fanatics.

What is interesting is that it is the core of PiS voters in those demographics who are either refusing or slow to get vaccinated. It is those demographics experiencing the most deaths when you look at the mortalities and where they are coming from.

Now though, PiS will slowly back away from this attempt to kill off the license from TVN. The US has made it clear that additional investment will not be coming to Poland should this policy be put in place. This is not the only item PiS is caving on lately. Big tough politicians basically getting bi7ch slapped when it it comes time to really fight for something. All bark and no bite unless it is against their own citizens.

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@Ironside
Poland buys these tanks from the US because they need them, they cant build them here. They buy them because it gives them a false sense of security with Russia when in practicality it would take Russia just a few weeks to role over Poland. If not for the US, Poland is counting on who for protection? Germany?

All this said, they are backing off the law because part of the PiS group wont support the law, some people at least know they should not make these changes. Picking a fight you cant win is simply not smart. People who are not smart should not be in positions of authority. It will be interesting when elections come around again.