Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


As far a I know there're over 120k registered hunters and close to 3k hunting clubs in Poland.
Hunters in Poland are a fraternity and hunting is more of a group activity than solo hunting.

The licence itself is not that expensive (under 1000pln) + small annual contribution to your chosen hunting club. A proper rifle, scopes, equipment, clothing etc. are much more expensive. There's also an optional additional hunter's insurance.

To become a member you need to have a clear criminal record and be accepted by a hunting club which is not done automatically, they have to allow you to join in. And you also have a one year trail period and have pass two tests: knwoledge test and shooting range test.

So it is easier to become a Witcher than to become a hunter in Poland :-)

Darz bór!

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Not in England. I live in both countries: Poland and England. The rifle will stay in Poland

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I can see now where this confusion is coming from.

What you think that I'm getting is this:

bit.ly/2GwM4t4

While in fact what I'm getting is this (from a Polish retailer):

gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/84463

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I did notice that and that was one of main the reasons why I've wanted it. I wanted a more universal rifle.

You see, in Poland we've got a strict gun laws. One of a very few ways of getting a legal weapon is to become a licenced hunter.

Getting a hunter's licence was the fastest way for me to own a rifle for target practice and for a household defense as well. As simple as that. And before you tell me that there are better weapons for self-defense than hunting rifle: we're not living in the US and I cannot simply walk to a gun store and buy a shotgun.

That said I'm not saying that I will not enjoy hunting. Any reason to get out of the house to walk in the forest in a cold early morning is valid :-P

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Haha, no worries Johnny, I did get some advice from a more experienced fellow hunters before ordering it. It is a standard hunting rifle with a quite strong recoil suitable for a man with a bigger frame.

Apparently, it can also be used for sport shooting and as a tactical rifle.

That's what I've been looking for.

This is a similar model:

astroclassic.pl/karabin-powtarzalny-remington-700-xcr-tactical-kal-338-lapua-magnum/2830/

It is legally classified as a hunting rifle in Poland.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

I wholeheartedly support a more laxed gun laws in Poland. And I think that a formation of Territorial Defense Units made of volunteers will speed this process up. Right now every, mentally stable, adult man can join WOT for a military training and learn how to use a pistol and an assault rifle in various tactical situations.

This spring I'll finally get my hunting licence and a good 'ol American Remington .338 lapua magnum hunting rifle.

It has a decent recoil and it is strong enough to put a wild boar, a moose or even a fat Kraut down with one shot :-P

Life / Symbols of Poland's culture abroad [5]

The Witcher franchise is currently one of the most popular symbols of Polish culture in the world:

notesfrompoland.com/2020/01/14/witcher-author-sapkowski-is-amazons-most-popular-author-after-netflix-success/

netflixlife.com/2020/01/21/the-witcher-netflix-most-watched-show-ever/

polygon.com/2019/12/30/21042765/the-witcher-3-most-popular-concurrents-steam-netflix

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

@Bratwurst Boy, that was a joke. @Tacitus and @delphiandomine have painted Condor takeover in such a dark colours - for LOT - like it was a huge disaster for Polish Airlines to buy it :-) LOT has paid for this disaster now let them profit from it ;-)


Russian economy - well, maybe not the actual economy since they don't really have that but a wast minieral resources anyway - is used by Putin for economical, political and military gains yet Germany has signed deals with them to build North Stream I and II... even in spite of concerns of Poland and Baltic States

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

@Tacitus @delphiandomine you amuse me :-)

And now let LOT consume a corporate synergy with Condor and digest this crushing defeat of acquiring a major German leisure airline...


So you admit that money has nationality? :-)

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

Thomas Cook was generating losses, Condor was an asset generating profits which sank with its parent company. Condor stands for 7 million German customers a year and a fleet of 50 airplanes. A good asset and a tool for the expansion of LOT on the German market.

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

Polish carrier LOT acquires German airline Condor

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-thomas-cook-condor-sale-lot/polish-carrier-lot-acquires-german-airline-condor-idUKKBN1ZN0PE

And just a few years ago a previous PO government wanted to sell LOT cheap to a German Air Berlin (which is now bancrupt) ...

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I agree with you that the next wave will come unless Turkey get bribed by Germany. And I also agree with you that Poland will get its fair share, which is: 0

But I have to give to Czech Republik that they knew how to make fools of the EU. First they've agreed to take in over 4000 refugees, of which they finnaly accepted a whooping 12 [twelve] of them. And no one can say that they didn't take in any refugees. Those Pepiks are a one cheeky nation ;-)

borgenproject.org/czech-republic-refugees/

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

@Tacitus

If it looks so fine and those 'refugees' are such a good asset then Germany should be happy to keep them all and shouldn't think about trying to push them to Poland.

I stand on a position that Poland should observe the process, which may offer some valuable lessons on someone else's expense, but should not get engaged in it.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I find it hard to believe to be honest. Not only due to the fact that they lack necessary skills for any productive work, but also due to the fact that the East German society is even more distrustful towards muslim refugees than Poland or Hungary is.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


The East Germany was washed in money by the West. Ossies walked straight away from a DDR - a socialist central planning state - into to a modern welfare state. The present economic stagnation in East Germany is a direct result of that past decision.

Do you know what I consider to be the biggest success of a post-communist Poland? The fact that in the first few years after the collapse of PRL around 2 mil. of small private businesses were created by the Poles. Starting from nothing and building it up. It reinforced entrepreneurship and created a sense of pride among Poles coming from Poland's economic development.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yes, the West was just waiting in line to pay premium prices for a superb East German industrial products like Trabant, the only car in the world which does not corrode :-).

Realistically speaking they would only buy a certain food products and mineral resources from East Germany. As far as I know the only thing in abundance in DDR was a brown coal not really needed by the West. And I doubt there was any food surplus which could be exported to the West?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Here's an interesting take on direct and indirect taxes and who pays the most in the UK:

taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/06/30/why-do-the-least-well-off-still-have-the-highest-tax-rate-in-the-uk/

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

@Bratwurst Boy

If you read carefully you would know that I'm opting for a minimal state, not an anarchy. In a minimal state there is taxation for necessary services, the beaurocracy is minimized and as much as possible is delegated to a domestic non-governmental organizations and private innitiatives.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


That's a totalitarian point of view. A voluntary cooperation between people and the free exchange of goods and services is far more superior than enforced "solidarity". The nation is solidified by its history, common traditions and values and not a governmental redistribution of taxpayers' money.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


You call it an unbridled liberalism and I call a freedom to decide what to do with the fruits of my labour.

Just a little though for you: do you know who pays the most money in taxes? A middle class and a working class. They are the main sponsors of a socialist utopia.

And do you know why? Because they got taxed before they even get their salaries.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

@cms neuf

Naturally, a present situation has to be taken into account. All those changes will have to start from a current state of things to end in a more desired state.

The transformation would take a form of scaling down the regulations, taxation, and shaving off a number of unnecessary offices and a large number of beaurocrats.

Then it would take form of private initiative taking over those branches and government institutions which can be run more effectively by a non-government organizations and private companies. The outcome will tell how much and fast it can be implemented.

Some other changes, like a deep reform of a social insurance institution, will have to wait since the government has obligations which it cannot break towards those citizens who started to started to work and pay for social insurance in a deep PRL. Yet, the new system should be implemented for a young people who are just starting their professional careers.

PS: I provided a link to wikipedia article (very modest post, a stub to be honest) as a reference and I think that's the only source of your knowledge about minimal state :-)

Here's a much better source of knowledge about it.
The Minimal State, Not the Welfare State by Dr. Edward Younkins: quebecoislibre.org/younkins18.htm


A tariff is a form of taxation.

Like I said, the govenment doesn't produce any income, it only only imposes regulations and taxation on its citizens and then use and distribute the fruits of labour. A good government is the one which leaves the most money in its citizens pockets so they can use it according to their will while providing them with stability and physical safety at the same time.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


To wait actively and to take action to prepare a favorable outcome for Poland. Let's forget about Fukuyama's "end of history" fairly tales.

There are some massive power shifts which are taking place around the world and in Europe. Like always the new order will produce the new winners and and new losers.

And Poland has a few good cards to play. We just need a government with a more capable foreign policy innitiatives.


I mean that for different groups of people one should use different arguments to convince them to a given point of view. Preaching only to those who already share your point of view isn't very effective if you want to grow a wider support.


It isn't a secret that the govenment doesn't have any other money other than funds collected from its citizens in taxes, yet many people believe that welfare state is sponsored by, well, a state :-)

We should repeat those simple truths until they become a common knowledge.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

So you're basically saying that muslim refugees freshly off boat living on handouts will have the same access to welfare state as regular EU citizens who work for them?

You should promote this view among those who believe in a EU welfare state and socialism in general.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

@gumishu

Muslim invaders flooding the gates of the EU are also an economic immigrants and not refugees. Economic immigrants of the worst kind: instead of work they are looking for welfare state handouts

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


cms neuf, do you even know what an NGO is? A non-governmental organization...And that's what minimal state is all about - a concious citizens organizing themselves and taking matters into own hands.


A traditional Europeans with EU-sceptic views not "repressed skinheads". But yes, keep on naming them whackjobs, skinheads etc. This will only attaract more followers pissed by those primitive shaming techniques.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Step by step.

Well, for a starter Poland should address EU-skeptic groups with in the EU and give them political and financial support, if needed, and to give those organizations a political legitimacy and recognition.

We need to create a bold diplomacy focused on reinforcing our narrative about nation-states and traditional european values. There's still a plenty of people who thinks this way even in the Old Europe and we need to get them on our side.

Then we should establish our own far-reaching NGOs which would promote Europe of nations and traditional values*.

* Much like a German-operated Konrad Adenauer fundation or Soros's Stefan Batory Foundation who are pushing "progressive" values in Poland and the rest of the EU.

The current government is preocupied with the internal affairs and neglects that. Konfederacja is more active on that field and, for example, makes connections with activists and persons of influence visiting Independence March in Warsaw each year.


The EU is in trouble, Europe will be just fine :-)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

The Soviet Union has ceased to exist because of economic collapse. And once it got weaker an ethic tensions has started to be visible as well.

Austro-Hungarian Empire has collapsed because of the nationalist movements and ethnic tensions within it.

And those two were strong, centralized organisms with their own armies and police forces.

The EU, fortunatelly, doesn't have such tools at its disposal. The EU in its current form can only exist as a voluntary union of nations. And the Brussels can only try to use propaganda, a and the money, to keep its members at bay. The EU doesn't have hard power and cannot force anyone to act according to their will. The EU apparatus is virtually helpless against the Polish and Hungarian political resistance so far.

Poland is quite immune to that propaganda and soon also will become a net payer to the EU budget. So even a financial blackmail would not be possible. The long term political goals of Poland are not the same as those held by the EU core. The EU wants federalization - Poland prefers Europe of nations. The EU stears towards cultural marxism - Poland wants to keep its traditional values. The split is inevitable. It is only a matter of time.

There are more cracks on the surface of the EU, which can be used to disasemble it:

- most eurozone members, and especially the economies of Spain and Italy, are being screwed by € currency, which only truly benefits Germany and Netherlands.

- almost 5 years passed and the "refugee" crisis is still there. And the Turkey is blackmailing the EU by threatening to release another big wave of "refugees"

- Italian economy has stalled and stopped growing since the 90's. There are many EU sceptic forces in the country on both: the right and the left political spectrum

- In Spain there's a huge unemplyment rate, up to 35% among young people. And the far-right Vox political party is growing in numbers and has 50 MEPs in a parliament as of now.

- Greece is still in a finacial pit and was humiliated by the Germany during the last crisis

- There is a social unrest in France, general strikes and a yellow vests movement which is still very active on the street more than a year after its creation. This could possibly boost Marine Le Pen to power during the next elections.

- and even in Germany you've got AfD, a third political power, which has gained a great support in the East Germany

Another "refugee" crisis combined with financial crisis at the same time could be the final nail in the coffin for the EU.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

As long as Poland is able to block neo-marxist nonsense coming from the EU core and benefit from single market at the same time I'm quite content with that.

Time works for us anyway.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I stand on the position that instead "exiting" we should disasemble the EU - in its current shape and form - from within. If we leave now then we will have a huge, semi-hostile to Poland after Polexit, political organism ruled by Germany and France behind our Western borders. That would not be the best option for Poland.

There are more EU-sceptic movements in the EU and we should collaborate with them and make coordinated actions against "ever tighter union". And obvioulsy we should oppose forming the EU-army in any shape and form.

Poland and Hungary should stand as a banner for the others to join.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Which is growing.


A soon as people start working they also start to realize how much they have to pay in taxes. And how little they got left in their wallets after heavy taxasion.

We just have to make them realize that it doesn't have to be that way.


I will take it as a compliment :-) Tbh. Internet forums were made for that purpuse.


Konfederacja is much more than just Korwin. And Korwin's influence has diminished even within his own faction. Who is Konfederacja's presidential candidate? Krzysztof Bosak from the national movement.