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GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

The matter was resolved on the EU level a few days later.

Yes, I apologise - I should have written "never, apart from a couple of days in April". There :)

You accuse Ukrainians of lying

I don't accuse, I claim that they are lying about Poland "continuing to block Ukrainian exports to the EU".

Who is lying???

Ukrainian prime minister Denys Shmyhal.

Or maybe you claim that he's telling the truth? :)
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

you still forgot to explain

I didn't forget. I simply ignored your request to do so. You are nitpicking and I always ignore boring nitpickers. :)

Free City of Gdańsk

No, back then it was rather German that could be heard in the streets...

youtu.be/y6-eVOnAnBk
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Some sources estimate current Ukrainian population at 29 million...

obserwatorgospodarczy.pl/2023/06/25/dzietnosc-na-ukrainie-jest-katastrofalnie-niska/

... which means that about 12 million have left Ukraine (and hasn't come back) since the war began. If only 1.3 million are in Poland, where are the remaining 10.7 million?
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

an average PF reader imagines 4 millions still staying

What an average PF reader imagines in his brilliant mind I can only guess.

we don`t understand each other

Nihil novi sub sole. :)
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Your 4 million is simply a huge exaggeration

If you read my post closely, you will notice that I wrote that Poland "accepted 4 million Ukrainian refugees".

The number of Ukrainians who crossed the border into neighboring Poland since the war began has shot past 9 million

aa.com.tr/en/europe/over-9m-ukrainian-refugees-crossed-into-poland-since-war-began/2784911

... and the article is from January. I'd say that since the war began we have definitely accepted 4 million refugees. Half of them might or might not have come back to Ukraine, but the overall number of those whom we accepted (even if only temporarily) doesn't seem too exagerrated.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Besides, that`s the data PIS gov provides.

Oh, right - so it must be true. They're never wrong. *rolls eyes*

You see it that way coz Gdańsk is a small city.

Gdańsk has half a million of inhabitants (the ones with meldunek) and the Tricity metropolitan area has about 1.4 million. In Chinese terms it might be called a small city, but in Poland it is generally considered quite large. :)

About 1.5 million Pesel numbers were allocated to refugee Ukrainians

Definitely not all of those who came/are coming get Pesels. When I lived in Ireland (2005-2008) there were throngs of Poles who never applied for the Irish PPS numbers and worked na czarno, and also many never got their registration of residence and just lived with their families or friends. I bet the same thing is happening with Ukrainians in Poland now.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

The data was provided by Polish Border Guard.

The number of border crossings can be misleading as well. Some people crossed the border multiple times since they came here, some without documents - especially early in the war - and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Border Guards having a bit of burdel in their papers in the last 18 months. Can't blame them.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Right now there are about 1.2 million Ukrainian war refugees in Poland.

So, for every three Ukrainian refugees two have already come back to Ukraine? I don't know where you are from exactly, Pawian, but in Gdańsk it seems like for every Ukrainian that was here a year ago three more came. I don't mind - most of them are lovely people (with obvious exceptions, just like with Polish emigrants in the West) - but I don't think they will be going home en masse any time soon. I meet quite a few on a daily basis and not only they have no intention of going back to Ukraine, they are bringing their close and not-so-close families here.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

"innocent victims of Volhyn"

Ukrainian ambassador in Poland - Wasyl Zwarycz - was even more impudent when on the anniversary of the genocide he said that he commemorates... wait for it... "all the II Rzeczpospolita citizens murdered during WW2 on the territories occupied by the III Reich".

to have hope that there will be a next step

And while you have hope, for another 30 years, the remaining survivors of Volhyn Genocide or even their children will not live to see their beloved ones properly buried.

Please, answer me the question I asked you in my previous post: how a civilised country can refuse the burial of the dead?.

to demand apology NOW

I don't give a f*ck about their apology, as I said before. I want the bestially murdered civilians to be finally properly buried. That's all.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

our AfD is very pro-Russia

Was it the AfD that built NS and NS2? Was it the AfD that ignored Polish warnings for all those years?

Don't panic, BB. If this AfD of yours are true German patriots, then we will find common interest and a way of agreement with them. Especially that in a couple of years we will have the strongest army in Europe, so that will help Germany and Poland to talk on a more equal, partnership terms.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

he is trying to make a comparison between Russian behaviour and that of Poland

Very good point, Feniks! That's exactly what he's doing. Scandalous.

I ask you just to have some patient with Germany a bit longer..

You have all my patience, BB. For the patience of Mr Kaczyński, however, I cannot vouch. :-/

AfD will butt heads with polish nationalists

Patriots will always find common tongue - as our personal example clearly shows. :) With those lefties, on the other hand, you just cannot reason.

*keeps fingers crossed for the European move to the right*
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

reconciliation between our both peoples

Peoples are OK. Even my generation (let's call it the middle generation, shall we? ;)) doesn't have much problems with Germans as such. It's the different visions of Poland and Germany/EU of what the future of Europe should look like. We are more for tradition, independence, co-operation of free countries, protecting our soil and heritage, limiting immigration etc., Germany/EU are more about melting everything in Europe into a huge, gay, multi-kulti, neo-marxist USSR-bis. Totally different visions.

If the EU shifts more to the right and Poland more to the left, maybe we will meet again.

@Bobi

Yes, I know all that, and what comes to my mind again are the legendary words of Jaroslav Hašek.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Well, we gave them 2% of our GDP worth of help (more than any country in the world), tons of military equipment, trains full of ammunition and fuel, took in their refugees - not to some bloody refugee camps but straight to our homes - gave Ukrainians (who are not even EU members) full social benefits, kindergeld, health services etc., just as if they were Poles, no difference, and they won't even let us bury our dead. Makes you think, doesn't it?

Those lies that their prime minister spreads about Poland are just a lovely icing on the cake.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

A mood change? Not yet. Poland is still willing to support Ukraine. Maybe not so enthusiastically, and maybe not to such a crazy extent as before, but still.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

That is an interesting thread with much needed info, Torqi!

Just telling it like it is, BB.

It's about money. Big money. Ukraine is not one bit less corrupt than Russia and their oligarchs are not one bit less greedy than their Russian counterparts. They don't give a flying f*ck about "starving Africa", "food shortage", "humanitarian crisis" or whatnot. All they care about is their profits and it's much cheaper to just sell the grain across the border in Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Hungary without the costly transport. The fact that Central European farmers will go bankrupt in the process is another thing Ukrainians don't give a toss about.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

Maybe some glitch in the system that will stop flow of fuel from Poland to Ukrainie

Yes, I think a couple of glitches like that would make them rethink their attitude. How right was Jaroslav Hašek when, through the mouth of good soldier Švejk, he said: "bezczelne są te kurwy i zuchwałe".
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

along with Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Slovakia

That is correct. Mr Shmyhal, however, spreads lies about Poland only, and doesn't even mention the other four countries.

here had been a glut of Ukrainian grain into all these countries

Grain that was supposed to go to "hungry Africa", but it turned out that Ukrainian grain oligarchs decided to just sell it in Poland. Neither of the five countries has ever opposed the transit of the grain to other destinations (all those hungry people, all over the world, waiting for the grain - how could we oppose?).

the five countries want them extended

Exactly. We want the export of Ukrainian grain to the EU (and beyond) to continue through Polish territory, and not "continue blocking the export". Considering that the amount of grain exported by Ukraine through Poland has more than doubled in recent months it is indeed impudent to lie about Poland continuing to block the exports.

Mr Shmyhal lies that Poland continues blocking the export of Ukrainian grain whilst - at the very same time when his words are flowing through his lying mouth - trains full of Ukrainian grain keep rolling through Poland.
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

I just don't get that idea or need for it.

The older I get and more I read of your posts, Iron, the more I agree with you.

You are absolutely right -- f*ck their apologies. But we should be allowed to bury our dead and that's not negotiable. Unfortunately, our dear Ukrainian friends do not allow the exhumation of the victims so that we could at least give them proper burial.

I should have listened to you all those years, but I was young and naive and I wanted to be friends with everyone, hold hands and sing kumbaya. F*ck that. :-/

Is got paid by t hose who have a vasted interest in selling that stuff in Poland.

You mean he's corrupt? A corrupt Ukrainian prime minister??? Well, I never... So, that's why he's spreading all those outrageous lies? Hmm... one more reason for president Zelensky to do something about it, isn't it?
GefreiterKania   
22 Jul 2023
News / Despicable Ukrainian lies [144]

No, this thread is not going to be about the lamentable inability of the Ukrainian government to apologise for the Volhyn Genocide. It is a separate topic that would require a separate thread, especially in the light of the total scandal connected with the recent 80th anniversary of the genocide. How many times will Poland allow the descendants of OUN-UPA genocidal animals to spit in our faces is indeed an interesting question.

But, shhhhh... hush, hush... let's not talk about it at this moment...

... this is about something else.

This is about the lies of a certain creature - Denys Shmyhal - who happens to be a prime minister of Ukraine and who said that "Poland intends to continue blocking the export of Ukrainian grain to the EU".

tvn24.pl/tvn24-news-in-english/kyiv-condemns-unfriendly-polish-decision-to-extend-ukrainian-grain-ban-7249900

Now, considering the fact that Poland has NEVER been blocking the export of Ukrainian grain to the EU, such scandalous lies cannot remain without serious repercussions. Let's remind the lying Shmyhal some basic facts:

- the transit of Ukrainian grain through Poland to the EU continues uniterrupted as it has always been;
- in January 2023, Poland transported 114,000 tons of Ukrainian grain to the EU, in June it was already 260,000 tons - so, the transit of Ukrainian grain through Poland has more than doubled in the last six months.

So why is the Shmyhal lying? Another interesting question.

Not only is the aforementioned creature lying but also somehow forgets to mention Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Hungary - four other countries who also, just like Poland, allow the transit of Ukrainian grain but don't agree to destroy their own farming by letting it flood their own markets. It is only Poland - the country that sent about 400 tanks (among tons of other stuff) to Ukraine and accepted 4 million Ukrainian refugees, giving them all social security benefits/health services that Polish citizens get - that gets criticised. Quite interesting.

Now, let's look at another lie by our good - by now - acquaintance Mr Shmyhal: he claims that Poland not opening Polish market to Ukrainian grain is a "move that will severely impact global food security". Quite the contrary, Mr Shmyhal, the grain that you are talking about is needed in hungry Africa not in Poland, isn't it? Poland has enough of our own grain. We bought the "our Ukrainian grain will be sent to poor hungry Africa" lie last year, and it ended up flooding the Polish market. Fool me once and all that.

Mr Zelenski - when he is not busy awarding the titles of Hero of Ukraine to OUN-UPA criminals - should find some time to discipline his prime minister, who seems to be dangerously talking out of his anal orifice recently. Quite dangerously.
GefreiterKania   
2 Jul 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

pomorska.pl/rewizja-niezwyczajna/ar/6681891

The article you linked gives the number of 358 German victims. Also, it confirms the existence of the 5th column (from German sources)...

Ale w 1966 roku ten sam Dwinger przyznał, że przyczyną "krwawej niedzieli" i polskiego odwetu byli dywersanci przerzuceni z kontrwywiadu SS do Polski

I'm not saying Poles are angels who don't have, as you said, "dark spots in our history", but compared to both our dear Western and Eastern neighbours, I'd say we are not that bad.

Please, forgive Kashub - he's only a young fellow and a bit emotional, hence the hilarious attempts at insulting you. You both are partly right about PiS: they are, by and large, a socialist party who plays on primitive fears and instincts of the uneducated part of Polish society (hence the anti-German scaremongering) but they are not "nationalists" in the Western European meaning of the word (deeply ingrained Catholicism of Poles is a firewall against that).

Poland can be authoritarian at times, but she cannot be totalitarian. Poles can be patriotic but they are very rarely nationalistic (I am yet to meet a Pole whom I could call a "nationalist").
GefreiterKania   
2 Jul 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

PiS, PO or PSL?

PiS - the level of milking of Poland achieved by PiS has reached an unprecedented level recently, and the way they bought the Catholic Church's hierarchy is nothing short of disgusting; besides, someone has to stop the money printing machines ASAP. NO

PSL - if only they hadn't entered into alliance with this weirdo Hołownia. NO

Lewica - we don't really have proper Lewica in Poland, who would fight for workers' rights and pay conditions and equal chances for everyone, and not for gay children adoption and abortion. NO

KonfedeRosja - I would rather emigrate than have people like Mentzen (remember the famous "piątka"?), Bosak (my dog would manage to get an MA these days, too bad Mr Bosak wasn't able to do it, despite repeated attempts), and Korwin-Mikke (it's not really a good time to replace Brussels with Moscow) ruling Poland. NO

PO - with them in power any sort of Polish resistance against islamisation of Europe, neo-marxist cultural revolution and green fascism would stop. NO

All the others are plankton, so I might as well stay at home or go to a polling station just to write: "you are all a bunch of sorry c*nts" on the ballot paper as a sign of powerless anger. :-(
GefreiterKania   
2 Jul 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

that's why I always fight for common sense on PF

...and let's not forget about your wine recommendations!

As for centrist parties' supporters and common-sense defenders - it looks like we are in minority. Why can't we go back to proper Christian Democracy similar to West German 1960s-1970s ordoliberalism? It worked so well; why did Europe have to switch to political correctness and leftist retardity? My disappointment with PiS stems exactly from the fact that they started well, with something that looked like Polish version of the good old German ordoliberalism but it evolved ever more towards authoritarian Orbanism (albeit with Catholic undertones).

Czech camps were Chech camps, that country was independent at least till 1947. Moscow took over after that date.

Correct. My mistake.
GefreiterKania   
2 Jul 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

Czech "concentration camps".

Which were also run by communists (even Stalinists at that time). We don't, however, hear about "Stalinist camps", "NKVD camps" or "communist camps" - they are always Polish or - apparently in Germany (that's where you are, right?) - also Czech camps. German camps, on the other hand, are no longer German but "Nazi". Interesting development, isn't it?

Of course, it's only a part of a larger picture of historical revisionism. Nothing can ruin Polish-German relations better than what the EU is currently doing by stopping funds for Poland, constantly lecturing us about "democracy" and forcing us to accept suicidal immigrant policies, but historical revisionism doesn't help either. Poles and Germans are able to go along quite well with each other, as long as politicians on both sides don't try to stir sh*t. PiS is doing too much anti-German scaremongering and Germany/EU still treat Poland as a schoolboy who needs to be lectured. Nothing good will come out of it.
GefreiterKania   
1 Jul 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

you Polish nationalists

Polish nationalists? Here? Do you know of any Polish nationalists, Iron? Perhaps they exist. I've never met any though.

Let's talk about

Not much to talk about. The subject of those camps, run by NKVD and communist authorities after WW2 is a well known topic. Countless articles and books have been written about it (Polish patriotic moms used Salomon Morel as a bogey man to scare their kids with when they were nasty). What's there to talk about?

Polish concentration camps

See... that's the problem, Pawi. That's the f*cking problem right there. Nobody ever speaks of Austrian or Czech concentration camps, German ones have magically turned into Nazi concentration camps, and we are left with Polish concentration camps only. Is that fair? No, Pawi, I don't think that's fair at all.

the file name isn't obvious so it's hard to find

Yes, not obvious file names are a nightmare. Happens to me all the time. Oh, well... let us know when you find it. And let us know when you find some Polish nationalists - I would like to ask them a couple of questions.
GefreiterKania   
30 Jun 2023
Off-Topic / Russian Views On Poland and Vice Versa [370]

RuSSia under Putin can't even fix roads lol

But they can send men into space.

Abandon all hope, you who try to understand Russia.
GefreiterKania   
30 Jun 2023
History / Poland and World War 2 -- Many history books prior to the wars end [37]

a few thousand Germans were killed simply because of their ethnicity.

Nope. The estimated number of losses on German side is 350-500, including those who died fighting Polish troops.

No 5th column or such BS.

Wrong again. Wehrmacht weapons (exactly the same made and models) were found with those who were firing at withdrawing Polish units. Typical 5th column. Of course, in the war chaos and in the absence of police some mob rule and lynching happened but the scale of it was wildly exaggerated by the nazis to justify the atrocities they commited.

There was a Polish-German commission about 10 years ago

Links?
GefreiterKania   
24 Jun 2023
Language / Will Germans be able to understand Polish enough? [77]

The Pole the blond hero and the German the dark Mongol?

Well, those were small details. I meant the overall message.

a common history book of our both peoples would met difficulties... :)

:D

Yeah - imagine Kaczynski and Chrupalla sitting down to write a chapter or two!