Off-Topic / Anyone into soviet synth wave music here? [21]


That version of Agnus Dei is a very good traditional work. Especially since from what I read about it the Latin words were added in the late swinging 1960s and by an American composer named Samuel Barber. According to his biography he was in a homosexual relationship which lasted 40 years.

I like this one better:

Kyrie Eleison In G Minor, Kcc 089 · Kyiv Chamber Choir

youtu.be/RA0HzYDpEsQ

Ancient. Ethereal. Slavic. What's not to like?

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


Communism is to blame.

Despite being held back, Poland and the Czech Republic actually recovered a lot faster than their neighboring countries because they underwent "shock therapy" to quickly restructure their economies away from communism and towards capitalism.

This meant privatization (and often job loses in the interim) and removal of many social safety nets.

Neighboring countries like Bulgaria and Ukraine took the slow, less painful route and didn't privatize as much or as fast and held on to many state funded benefit programs. Their economies haven't advanced much since because of it.

As far as Portugal goes sure it didn't go through communism like Poland did.

So compare Portugal to other EU countries like Germany or even smaller economies like the Netherlands, Belgium, and Finland.

They were never under communism but managed to keep their economies sound and their standards of living high.

Why is Portugal along with Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain different than the other countries in the EU?

Because they didn't believe in fiscal discipline. They over-borrowed and they were weak on collecting taxes. They blew it.

It can take longer to rebuild an economy than it does to crash it. Decades longer. Even a generation.

This is why Poland is still a net beneficiary of EU funds rather than a net contributor to it.

Even as a beneficiary Poland has been very responsible in managing its finances. There is no evidence that Poland would have been an irresponsible spendthrift country if it never had communism imposed on it.

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


You said that Portugal was comparable to Poland in terms of its economy and wages.

Poland's economy and standard of living was held back due to decades under communism and its dysfunctional central planning.

Portugal has been in the EU far longer than Poland. So given that long lead time alone, along with equal programs where it received EU funding, Portugal should have a much higher standard of living including higher wages. Instead, Portugal blew it.


Portugal is still a very Catholic country too.

The Church is as critical of certain policies in Portugal as it is in any other majority Catholic country.

The Church is also very liberal under the current Pope. So I don't see what all the fuss is really about.

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


That is or at least probably was the original intent. Investment in Poland would raise the standard of living and create a growing middle class which in turn would spend money on goods and services from elsewhere in the EU.

But no one really expected millions of younger Poles to leave Poland for other parts of the EU so quickly after joining. So that threw a wrench into things.


Portugal over-borrowed and couldn't pay it back. They weren't alone.

Read about it here:

investopedia.com/terms/p/piigs.asp

Off-Topic / Anyone into soviet synth wave music here? [21]


Okay, but here is what is:

ＰＯＬＩＳＨ　ＳＹＮＴＨＷＡＶＥ　／　ＲＥＴＲＯＷＡＶＥ　ＭＩＸ

youtu.be/vPRPEKdW0g4

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


If history had been different our family trees would not be what they are. We literally wouldn't exist today. What happened in the past is a very unique combination of events which allowed us to be here today and be who we are.


Read up on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

The Soviet Union originally sided with Hitler to partition Poland with each taking their share of it.

Nazi Germany renegade on the deal and invaded the Soviet Union under Operation Barbarossa because Hitler wanted more territory for his Lebensraum policy.

The Soviet Union never saved Poland and never would either.

Poland was only used as a battle ground by the Soviets during WWII and then used as a buffer zone between them and NATO.


Poland's economy and standard of living were wrecked by the Soviet Union. The EU has been paying billions under its cohesion and agricultural policies to Poland (the largest beneficiary in the EU) since it joined.

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


Because our Polish ancestors for over a thousand years wanted it to be that way.

We wouldn't be us or even here today if it were otherwise.


Poland hasn't always won the battles but ultimate it has prevailed in the wars.


We shouldn't. We can argue but not fight.


Has Varjú (the Magyar formerly known as Crow) hacked your account?

Eastern Europe is a tapestry of diversity. It wouldn't be Eastern Europe otherwise.

There many different Slavic groups (West and East) along with Romance and Finno-Baltic neighbors.

All those different languages, cultures, faiths, traditions, etc. would be lost in time like tears in rain if the Russians took over.

Just look at Ukraine. A nation torn in two. Half of the country sides with Russia and the other half has moved to Poland.


A nice legend.

But rarely do brothers live together for life.

Each moves away from home and starts his own family. Well at least that used to be the case before the evil cult of feminism emerged and began killing off societies.

Off-Topic / Anyone into soviet synth wave music here? [21]


It's good and has been around since the 1960s.


Synthesizers were developed in the capitalist United States before going global.

I've read that the now deceased musician Prince (he died a few years ago from an accidental fentanyl overdose) was actually a fan of the work of the still active British musician Gary Numan who came to fame in the 1970s using synthesizers.


Nah. Too much bad blood.

The closest to anything like that was Congress Poland. That wasn't an alliance but it was a period lasting well over a century when a large swathe of Poland was effectively absorbed into Russia.

But Poles always prefer independence.

Have you heard about the 1863 January Uprising?

It is as inspiring as the 1944 Warsaw Uprising and the Solidarity movement of the 1980s.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

Feminist courts are throwing them out.

They aren't worth the paper they were written on.

It doesn't matter what was contractually agreed to by both the husband and the wife.

All that matters today is how does the woman currently "feel" about things.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


I totally agree.

Unfortunately feminists will never accept responsibility for their man-hating female-deification and the toxic and corrosive effects it has had on men, society, and yes even women too going on for well over a century now.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


That is so sexist.

Why do you place the responsibility on a man while acknowledging that women are the ones behaving like she-devils?

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


No need. Men Going Their Own Way means exactly that.

Although you should be able to help someone out who needs it.

After all, another poster on here mentioned in another thread that you are finally out of prison after being found guilty of domestic violence against women in your family.

So clearly you are now the involuntary celibate (Incel) and social outcast.

That means you have plenty of time on your hands.

So go forth and do good with it by helping your fellow disposable men in society.


Exactly.

MGTOW is society's immune response to the disease of feminism.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Not at all. MGTOW is a way of life, a state of being, and for more and more men it is becoming a necessity.

MGTOW is an acknowledgment that society is not egalitarian and never will be.

It is an acknowledgment that society is not patriarchal (despite all the evil crazy feminists hissing that it is) and never has been.

It is an acknowledgement that society is in fact gynocentric and always has been.

It is an acknowledgment that feminism is the stage 4 cancer of gynocentrism.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

Congratulations on coming out as MGTOW!

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


All the top comments acknowledge that the evil and corrosive cult of feminism is the problem. They too know that feminism has done nothing for men or families.

It must be so hard for a father, husband, brother, or son to be burdened with a feminist in their lives.

The so-called "Incels" still believe that there is a traditional woman out there they can be with.

MGTOWs though realize it is futile to expect to have a healthy relationship and normal life with feminists (aka evil crazy troublemakers with an entitlement complex).

That's why these men keep their dignity, their sanity, and their wealth and go their own way.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Yes. Your refusal to answer demonstrates your unwillingness to admit that the evil and corrosive cult of feminism has done absolutely nothing to benefit men.

And it has done nothing for you as homosexual either other than to provide you material to troll the forum with.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Answering a question with a question is an evasion tactic.

I asked you the question first so answer it.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


So what has your evil and corrosive cult of feminism done specifically to benefit men or for you personally as a homosexual?

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


You said you were speaking in her defense. Her profile shows she selected female for gender. You then said forum personas may not be what they are. Given the topic of the thread and her interaction with other posters it is reasonable to see that her gender may not be what her profile indicates.

C'est la vie.

It isn't my forum anyway so if "she/her", "he/him", "they/their" come and go it isn't my problem.

But if they are expecting to get a programmed politically correct response when they use the forum to proselytize about the evil and corrosive cult of feminism then they can forget it.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Too late for you. But don't worry too much. Feminism wouldn't exist without hypocrisy so I never would expect you "as a woman" to live up the values which you expect men to conform to.


The NIH study didn't include female narcissism. Clearly, it was taken for granted with no need to look into it any further.


Atch is man? I didn't know that. Biological or trans? Maybe that is why the other women on the forum don't care for "she/her". Indeed, many hardcore female feminists have publicly drawn a line in the sand and excluded "them/their" from the sisterhood.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Pollyanna? Isn't that a female name which you are using as a term of disparagement?

Right up there the gender stereotyping of telling a boy not to cry like a little girl, isn't it?

Thanks for confirming the NIH study I shared only a few posts ago. This and your history on the forum demonstrates your scores for neuroticism, self-reproach, depression, and anxiety are off the charts!


I see you are embarrassed to include yourself when talking about women. You should be given your unpopular conduct on the forum (yes, even the other females here have demonstrated they don't hold you in high regard and you know it). So thanks once again for confirming the NIH study.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


The bitterness is you seeing yourselves for what you are when I hold up the mirror of truth.


Yes, it's a component of feminist misandry.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Feminists that's who.

You know, the organized female neurotics who preach about female empowerment and positivity while in the same breath demand equality with men whom they demonize while at the same time believe that gender itself is a social construct.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


I thought they said it was about equality? So, another feminist lie is exposed.


Demonizing men for nearly two centuries is their idea of positivity? Sounds more like sadism.


So true.

Studies show there are indeed differences between the genders.

In old age, as well as midlife and young adulthood, women score higher than men for traits like neuroticism, self-reproach, depression, and anxiety.

Men, on the other hand, score higher than women in traits like extraversion, conscientiousness, sociability, intellectual interests, orderliness, goal striving, and dependability.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


That's a very succinct description of the entire feminist movement. Thanks.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Police are now trained to assume the male is at fault in all domestic abuse cases. It doesn't matter that women disproportionately provoke arguments and are even the first to initiate physical violence. The feminist mantra that all women are innocent victims has brainwashed politicians and police chiefs and none will risk their careers to challenge this toxic feminist orthodoxy. Women know this and now wield this power imbalance to use law enforcement and the courts on their behalf to carry out violence and revenge against men who are physically stronger than they ever will be.


Men are willing to make trade-offs. It's why you hear stories like Arnold Schwarzenegger getting his housekeeper pregnant and Tiger Woods having an affair with a waitress who worked at a pancake restaurant. The women they knocked-up were low status but they were not victims. They knowingly and willingly acted on their hypergamy with the aim of extracting resources from these two rich celebrities.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Because women are attention seeking drama queens. They really do believe they deserve to be privileged and protected by those around them based on their gender alone and so they foolishly assume no one will actually carry out torturing or killing them even when they request it.


It depends on their age, looks, and usefulness. Men may have lower standards when selecting a female but that doesn't mean we have no standards.

Also, as I mentioned previously, women may band together when it suits them but ultimately they really do resent each other because they all seek resources from men and see each other as competitors in this quest. So it is much more likely to be the case that the women in a tribe would oppose a female outsider from joining as it would any of the men.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Probably. But that's because there were no big social safety nets for widowed women like there are today such as pensions, insurance, or welfare programs for them to tap into.

Life / I love Poland, but... [58]


So what would your ideal society be like so that you could "feel" like you fit in?

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Because a guy will actually show up and complete the job on time or ahead of schedule and be ready for the next task.

Since women can't, or more to the point won't, this is why so many jobs have been shipped overseas like you mentioned earlier.

When you hear businesses and politicians wring their hands in angst that they can't find qualified workers in the United States they are not referring to the men who have been displaced by women in the workforce.

They are referring to the women who have been given the jobs but who consistently fail to live up to the promise that women are as good or better than men.