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mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

so ultimately middle eastern and african will cheaper and more willing over time.

Only if a majority of them (inlcuding a large majority of women) are employed. All the statistics I've ever found on Muslism/African immigrants in western europe don't really point to that happening.
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

So if gangs of men molesting women in Germany is a 'muslim problem' then surely by the same logic men molesting little boys in Dominican Republic is 'a catholic problem'

Yep, pretty much. The problem is while lots of people (especially catholics) are trying to do something about the latter, not too many people (muslims especially) are trying to do something about the former.

What can muslim immigrants bring to Poland that other groups (like Vietnamese or Ukrainians) can't?

Highly educated and secular oriented muslims already find Poland an okay place to live (I've known a number of them) but large numbers of low social capital conservative muslims? I do not see the appeal (for either side).
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

I see little difference between Islamic and Catholic doctrines. They're really quite similar

So the penalty for leaving Catholocism is death? Catholic women aren't allowed to marry non-Catholics? Female catholics are only able to inherit half as much as men? Who knew?
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

I don't blame Poland or the Polish people if they have their concerns,

Because you're sane. It takes a person who is insane or lying to themselves to look at what's happened in Westen Europe and conclude that large scale muslim immigration was a good idea. Rampant ghettoization, dismal results in education and employment, overrepresentation in all sorts of crime, especially sexual violence - and some people want more or it and want Poland to join in.
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Poland can see the mess that multiculturalism has made in countries like Sweden, France, UK and Germany

How many Polish people have not worked in one of these countries or have friends or family members who have? Too many people think that Polish people are unworldly and xenophobic on the issue of multiculturalism - the truth is they've seen it (without the buffering that the chattering classes experience) and don't like it and don't want it come to Poland.

Good fences make good neighbors.
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Which is the most propersous sub-saharan country? It's South Africa - the most multicultural.

That is a very slow horse race.

I know which ones had the greatest variety of parties and restaurants to go to!

The one and single accomplishment of multiculturalism, fast foods!

The point was that Hungary got rid of the people that were molesting women en masse in Cologne!

Germany 0 - Hungary 1
mafketis   
19 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Three of those four countries you mention are immigrant countries

The period of greatest prosperity of the US coincides with historically low levels of immigration. And becoming a citizen meant shedding most of your previous loyalties. Most importantly it meant that adult immigrants agreed to let their children be socialized in the values of the new environment and not in those of their homelands. That's over.

There's nothing in a country-based system that has to mean ethnicity, religion, social views

Yeah, sub-saharan African countries don't have those and look how well they work out!

that's not to say that closing borders like Poland and Hungary wasn't also mismanagement

Which city had a nicer New Year's Eve, Budapst or Cologne? A large majority of the Merkeljugend are low social capital economic migrants and not refugees in any real sense.
mafketis   
18 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

All those things are just good old tribal identity politics, manipulating basic human emotions of territoriality and 'tribe'.

aka "human nature"

tribalism means warfare or blowing your economy on the threat of it

while technocrats (like Merkel) are busy blowing their economies on migrants who will never be able to contribute economically the countries they live in...

Human nature is what it is and it's not easy to change according to the whims of technocrats.

The highest standards of living in the world (for the broadest portions of society) were all about prioritizing citizens over non-citizens (US, UK, Japan, Canada et al). If you can't prioritize citizens the why ahve countries?

And if you don't have countries that means no public education or healthcare just every dog for himself which leads to a return to clannish tribalism as groups of people band together to protect themselves.

There is no escaping the human preference for group loyalties.
mafketis   
18 Nov 2016
News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

I think, after conflict, Lithuanians themselves wouldn`t care for anything, if you understand me.

Yes, you want to kill them all. Is genocide the Serbian national sport?

Russia won`t tolerate that for long

Let's play pretend: Russia invades Poland whose side are you on? Poland's or Russia's? No bullhocky about trying to mediate or the crucial role of Serbia. Whose side are you on if it comes to conflict? Poland's or Russia's?
mafketis   
18 Nov 2016
News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

Let's not beat around the bush, you want Poland and/or Russia to invade and wipe Lithuania off the map because it's not Slavic enough? Am I right?

Lithuanians will seriously not agree with that prospect. It was hard for them to obtain independence from both countries and a large majority of the population would fight back against Slavic domination.
mafketis   
18 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

he main reason BRExit and Trump occurred is economy/jobs.

Actually I think the common denominator for a whole lot of things from Occupy Wall Street, Bernie Sanders, Brexit, Donald Trump and Golden Dawn are a grassroots rejection of a certain type of technocracy that does not take human nature into account.

The terrible effects of neoliberalism and multiculturalism are symptoms of the technocratic mindset that people all over the west are rejecting.
mafketis   
17 Nov 2016
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Those are not the far right groups. The _Real_ and _scary_ far right groups are the ones that will emerge if groups like AfD are marginalized and artificially kept out of power by all the other parties ganging up against them (or phony measures like the delayed presidential electin in Austria).

The EU is going out of its way to signal that peaceful change is impossible.

Don't you dare act surprised if things get violent as a result.
mafketis   
16 Nov 2016
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

f Kosovo which was once a Serbian ethnic territory and which the so-called West decided to deprive the Serbians of

Actually Serbians decided to deprive themselves of it by moving en masse away from it (it's essentially useless territory) creating a vaccuum for albanians (who have lower expectations about standard of living than Serbs) to fill and then discriminating against albanians and trying to pretend there was a Serb majority there (which hasn't actually existed for a hundred years or so).
mafketis   
16 Nov 2016
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

did they?

Why yes. Yes they did.

They probably were aiming at a Russian passenger plane which they were planning on using as a casus belli to fully invade Ukraine.

The Russian state hates any slav group that doesn't bow and grovel to them.

If they don't hate Serbia then..... guess why?
mafketis   
15 Nov 2016
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

gave up investigation and handed it on a sliver platter into Muscovy hands

The accident happened on Russian territory, that limits Poland's options in terms of investigations.

here is no question about a fact that Putin's regime is not friendly towards Poland

Considering what an evil slug Putin is, that's a recommendation.
mafketis   
8 Nov 2016
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

I was just pointing out that drawing conclusions from personal experience can be a bit of a pitfall.

I don't draw conclusions as much as working hypoetheses that are amended as new data is obtained. Of course making too many inferences from too little data is dangerous, but the alternative is to fly blind in almost all situations which is even more dangerous.
mafketis   
8 Nov 2016
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

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with such a small sample size you cannot categorise by nationality, it's stupid.

I wasn't submitting this to a peer reviewed journal, but mentioning personal experience.

In my experience how good someone is at learning languages is about personality and necessity,

Exactly, this comes from the 1990s where it was much harder to get around with just English. Still, Brits mostly didn't learn and Americans mostly did (I did mention there are counterexamples both ways).

I think it has something to do with American social networking. We like broad social networks with shallow connections (we like to know a lot of people but not necessarily deeply) At the time the only way to have anything like a broad social network in Poland was to speak Polish.

By contrast, IME Brits are more like other Europeans (esp northern Europeans) in preferring smaller social networks but with deeper connections so knowing fewer people bothered them less.

There's also the idea that most of the Americans I knew had chosen specifically to come to Poland while about half the Brits just sort of.... ended up here.
mafketis   
8 Nov 2016
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

but I have never come across someone who is English that can speak fluently in Polish and understand others competently.

In my experience Americans are generally better at learning Polish than British or Irish people are (there are some exceptions both ways of course).

I remember at one time knowing about 4 or 5 Americans (no contact with the language in the US) who were fluent enough in Polish to deal with bureaucracy on their own with no interpreter. I knew a similar number of Brits at the same time who'd been in Poland for similar lengths of time and none of them could speak Polish for crap.

IME Polish is much easier to learn in situ rather than in another country. The learning curve is _very_ steep in the beginning and for the first two years or so it just seems like a hodgepodge of exceptions rather than a system. It's sometime in the third year it starts becoming a bit easier. The problem is you need an overview of the whole system and how it works before you can make much sense of it but once you have that you can predict things pretty well.

(English works in the opposite manner, it starts easy and then after a couple of years starts getting harder and harder).

My advice is first and foremost concentrate on nouns, pronouns and adjectives. For many people that seems to be counter-intuitive and they want to spend more time of verbs in the beginning. But the case system is really the backbone of the language. It should be the priority (don't neglect verbs entirely but don't go crazy over them in the beginning, the more you understand the noun system the easier verbs will be).

Whatever you do, don't spend a lot of time memorizing "aspect pairs" of verbs that's all but useless. I wasted a lot of time learning lists but the more I learned the less I thought about aspect (it largely takes care of itself in advanced learning).

Is Polish up there with the MOST difficult language to learn?

No. The old US Airforce classification (specialized for Americans) put it in category 3, harder than French or Spanish (1) or German (2) but easier than Chinese or Arabic languages (4).
mafketis   
8 Nov 2016
Language / Good Polish Music To Help Me Learn? [44]

I really liked this back in the day. At one time I had the first album more or less memorized.
The enunciation is pretty clear once he starts singing (ignore the mumbling in the beginning).


mafketis   
6 Nov 2016
Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]

Maf to me it means like 'multicultural education' in which festivals and histories from all cultures are celebrated equally.

What does that accomplish? It seems more normal for a country to prioritize its own history and traditional festivals over newer arrivals.

France could not be said to be multicultural because all the children are taught about 'our ancestors the Gauls' even if they are from eg Algeria.

How should the Gauls be referred to? What has Algeria ever done that Algerian culture should receive equal treatment in French schools? The French created a country that millions upon millions would like to live in. How many people is Algeria attracting (versus how many can't wait to escape)?