Ironside
26 May 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]
changing subject are you ?
anyway I'm exhausted - bed time !
Am I right?
changing subject are you ?
anyway I'm exhausted - bed time !
Ironside
25 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
There will be alternative sooner or later for now soviets have to be eliminated from Polish public life. Maybe Kaczynski will do a first step in the right direction.
PO embodies old system and so do Palikot a branch of the same tree.
You are right about the state, present state is left over from soviet times, suitable and made to accommodate soviet model of society and its structures.
If there was any alternative. The thing is, I'd feel dirty after voting for Kaczyński
There will be alternative sooner or later for now soviets have to be eliminated from Polish public life. Maybe Kaczynski will do a first step in the right direction.
PO embodies old system and so do Palikot a branch of the same tree.
You are right about the state, present state is left over from soviet times, suitable and made to accommodate soviet model of society and its structures.
Ironside
25 May 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]
Funny though, that you know where you belong, I have never named members of the league,
is that even mean anything.
no if about it you volunteered
Where I mentioned PiS ?
The truth is that so far there wasn't Polish rapport about Smolensk crash.
Don't be ridiculous in your case everything has to with believes, your believes ! You don't have even know what a proper scientific analysis look like.
I don`t mind being in that league. :):):):):
Funny though, that you know where you belong, I have never named members of the league,
then you are a mental/moral plankton.
is that even mean anything.
if I
no if about it you volunteered
You mean PiS report, of course.
Where I mentioned PiS ?
The truth is that so far there wasn't Polish rapport about Smolensk crash.
This has nothing to do with belief. Do not mix religion into this. Deal with facts.
Don't be ridiculous in your case everything has to with believes, your believes ! You don't have even know what a proper scientific analysis look like.
Ironside
25 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
I'm sure they are ...:D
however he is in league with Tusk.
It is a problem that they are working on now.
I'm sure they are ...:D
Palikot, contrary to Tusk, did not promised, during the election, that he is not going to touch the retirement issue. So, contrary to Tusk, he cannot be called an outright lier.
however he is in league with Tusk.
Ironside
24 May 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]
there is no sense to argue now with representatives of the league of mental and/or moral midges on this forum. There will be soon( or soon enough) Polish report on the Smolensk crash !
Hey
there is no sense to argue now with representatives of the league of mental and/or moral midges on this forum. There will be soon( or soon enough) Polish report on the Smolensk crash !
Ironside
24 May 2012
News / Der Spiegel: "Poles are now the masters of Europe" [49]
Are Germans taking the **** ?
The only geographical failure is you, you will never achieve anything, the state will pay for your existence, take away oil and we have half-crazed poor farmers and hunters on the ass end of Europe.
Are Germans taking the **** ?
since Poland has never and will never achieve anything. Poland is a geographic failure.
The only geographical failure is you, you will never achieve anything, the state will pay for your existence, take away oil and we have half-crazed poor farmers and hunters on the ass end of Europe.
Ironside
23 May 2012
News / Der Spiegel: "Poles are now the masters of Europe" [49]
Yes, and all should take as a face value what some foreign newspaper claims ?
writes German weekly "Der Spiegel
Yes, and all should take as a face value what some foreign newspaper claims ?
Ironside
23 May 2012
Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]
Yes it is all of topic !
To answer the tread topic - NO!
You want to talk, make a new thread!
ff topic.
Yes it is all of topic !
To answer the tread topic - NO!
You want to talk, make a new thread!
Ironside
23 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
Check how they voted on retirement age issue.
Another achievement of the Tusk government:
subcontractors (mostly Polish firms) building motorways haven't received money for the job done,however contractors have been paid by gov i.e. Polish taxpayers already.
That is actually achievement - make people work for free and divide money between friends. Hey they should be happy that they have work .
I can see here a seed of a new economic success of the Tusk gov. All jobless should be working till they drop death - problem solved.
Palikot,
Check how they voted on retirement age issue.
Another achievement of the Tusk government:
subcontractors (mostly Polish firms) building motorways haven't received money for the job done,however contractors have been paid by gov i.e. Polish taxpayers already.
That is actually achievement - make people work for free and divide money between friends. Hey they should be happy that they have work .
I can see here a seed of a new economic success of the Tusk gov. All jobless should be working till they drop death - problem solved.
Ironside
22 May 2012
Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]
I answered to your very specific question, by no means it could be read as a specific and accurate observation. You need to understand context, reasons and circumstances.
Contrary to opinion of poster I quoted who is making unlearned generalization. No all Poles are like that.
Although in Poland many things are not right there is valid and true excuse for all that.
What is excuse of the USA for its failings ? Tourist cannot wonder outside certain zones(or into shady neighborhoods) without fear of being killed for proverbial dollar.
That worse than third world countries. Whats your excuse >? No amount of polished manners and neighborly chit-chat can erase that !
so explain to the forum how it was out of context and how what you said is different than what hudsonhicks wrote. yep, that outta clear things up.
I answered to your very specific question, by no means it could be read as a specific and accurate observation. You need to understand context, reasons and circumstances.
Contrary to opinion of poster I quoted who is making unlearned generalization. No all Poles are like that.
Although in Poland many things are not right there is valid and true excuse for all that.
What is excuse of the USA for its failings ? Tourist cannot wonder outside certain zones(or into shady neighborhoods) without fear of being killed for proverbial dollar.
That worse than third world countries. Whats your excuse >? No amount of polished manners and neighborly chit-chat can erase that !
Ironside
22 May 2012
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]
whats polacken ?
As for the rest of your tirade - yawn !
Polacken
whats polacken ?
As for the rest of your tirade - yawn !
Ironside
22 May 2012
Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]
Well, to have a fruitful debate is better no to quote posers out of context and in a different thread from one in which the original discussion occurred.
Are you foreigner in Poland or you are just a general standard foreigner?
-Ironside, May 16, 2012
Well, to have a fruitful debate is better no to quote posers out of context and in a different thread from one in which the original discussion occurred.
well, he has to know his countrymen (he's Polish), don't you think?
Are you foreigner in Poland or you are just a general standard foreigner?
Ironside
21 May 2012
Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]
I take that is your picture!! You are an exemplary specimen of the best the United Kingdom has to offer -polite, enlightened, mannered and civilized.
I like you already!
Yes they are rude and ignorant, but we cannot blame them, years behind the iron curtain has had its toll.
I take that is your picture!! You are an exemplary specimen of the best the United Kingdom has to offer -polite, enlightened, mannered and civilized.
I like you already!
Ironside
21 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
you too?
Better society ? Care to elaborate ?
n no more than 30 years your people will work on our fields. Why ? We're simply better as a society, better educated, more intelligent, more hard working and so on. You are "richer" due to historical reasons but times are changing, now faster than ever before.
you too?
Better society ? Care to elaborate ?
Ironside
20 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
You got that right but it is a waste of time to talk to the members of the league. They are fine therefore everything is grand and will be even better.
Empty coffers - its given government billion zloty a year.
Those politicians don't know anything about labor market.
You got that right but it is a waste of time to talk to the members of the league. They are fine therefore everything is grand and will be even better.
Like I said, it's purely ideology and not pragmatic.
Empty coffers - its given government billion zloty a year.
Ironside
20 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]
Do you think that I mean respect from you and the league of moral and/or intellectual midgets? Big mistake!
Continue to flatter each other and kiss each other butts, tell stories that things in Poland are great and will be better, phew ! I will not lower myself to talk to you anymore.
You have free ride here from now on and you can invite that titan of intellect moodyfanny to join your league.
Respect have to be earned.
Do you think that I mean respect from you and the league of moral and/or intellectual midgets? Big mistake!
Continue to flatter each other and kiss each other butts, tell stories that things in Poland are great and will be better, phew ! I will not lower myself to talk to you anymore.
You have free ride here from now on and you can invite that titan of intellect moodyfanny to join your league.
Ironside
20 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]
you are right - the biggest joke is your exchange about honor !
but I'm not sure if the biggest...
you are right - the biggest joke is your exchange about honor !
Ironside
16 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
to be honest sweetie I don't care what you have to say about me. I come to conclusion some time ago that you are just an idiot. Your political stance is idiotic, your opinions are biased.
Today I learned that you are unable to draw conclusions from given data.
Next time.
Now, here is a little payback
to be honest sweetie I don't care what you have to say about me. I come to conclusion some time ago that you are just an idiot. Your political stance is idiotic, your opinions are biased.
Today I learned that you are unable to draw conclusions from given data.
Next time.
Ironside
16 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]
ignorant, rude and demoralized
secondary, imitative and bland.( often )
less varied and more simple than it use to be ....
less-effective and crude !
polish people and their culture are often times ______ due to communism.
ignorant, rude and demoralized
polish TV/entertainment/arts are _____ due to communism (post-communists)
secondary, imitative and bland.( often )
Polish food is ______due to communism.
less varied and more simple than it use to be ....
Polish economy and business practices are _______due to communism.
less-effective and crude !
Ironside
16 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]
What age that would be ?:D
Sometimes I have no patience for sleazy dishonest as-holes.
What age that would be ?:D
Sometimes I have no patience for sleazy dishonest as-holes.
Ironside
16 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
increasing retainment age to 67,My point - not every country in Europe is doing that and not as fast as Tusk's government,
Anyway I have no time or will to closely investigate pension system and conditions in all countries in Europe.
In Poland who kicked out about three millions predominately young people there hardly any jobs for senior citizens. Not for gross of them anyway - what is a sense then in increasing the retirement age? apart form gov saving monies ? that its own bloody fault if they are broke.
Average life expectancy is about 7 years lower in Poland than in the UK for males - I don't have to spell for you what that means, do I?
In the UK you can make your own arrangements as to retirement funds. That 67 (the state pension)concerns mostly those who couldn't afford to secure their own arrangements.
I would guess that about 40% in the UK and about 80% in Poland relay solely on the state pension.
Anyway I think that is not necessity is just another con by the European ruling class to hide their incompetence and greed.
The point I want to make is that Polish government is eager to implement that change afford their own selfish reasons noting to do with necessity or wellbeing of the country nor is citizens.
UK is increasing the retirement age to 67.
as has Spain
as has Spain
increasing retainment age to 67,My point - not every country in Europe is doing that and not as fast as Tusk's government,
Anyway I have no time or will to closely investigate pension system and conditions in all countries in Europe.
In Poland who kicked out about three millions predominately young people there hardly any jobs for senior citizens. Not for gross of them anyway - what is a sense then in increasing the retirement age? apart form gov saving monies ? that its own bloody fault if they are broke.
Average life expectancy is about 7 years lower in Poland than in the UK for males - I don't have to spell for you what that means, do I?
In the UK you can make your own arrangements as to retirement funds. That 67 (the state pension)concerns mostly those who couldn't afford to secure their own arrangements.
I would guess that about 40% in the UK and about 80% in Poland relay solely on the state pension.
Anyway I think that is not necessity is just another con by the European ruling class to hide their incompetence and greed.
The point I want to make is that Polish government is eager to implement that change afford their own selfish reasons noting to do with necessity or wellbeing of the country nor is citizens.
Ironside
16 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]
Person they respect ?
Fishy !
Because you admit that you are Polish and when strangers read you, what image of a Polish person do they get?
Person they respect ?
I think Pollack jokes should be disappearing gradually, instead of being fuelled.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Fishy !
Ironside
16 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
You are lying and manipulating, you little con.
You have posted some date about retirement age in Europe, suggesting that every country in the EU are doing the same - i.e. increasing retirement age !
Whereas data clearly shows that only Poland's government changes has risen retirement age to the highest level in Europe and earlier than exemplary Germany.
You argument that Poland should do it because others are doing that doesn't hold water. It is another shity nonsense in the long string of nonsenses you posted in defiance of the truth.
Given the fact that average life expectancy in Poland is eight years lower than in the countries of the old EU and work for elderly is not easy available Tusk reforms are clearly seen for what they really is - i.e.reckless misuse of power.
Reason, financial situation of Poland is in a dire state. Tusk gov policy fault!
This reform gives them billion zloty per annum !
theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/jun/24/retirement-ages-oecd-countries
On top of that all, you are constantly lying.
Bad Iron.
Bad Iron.
You are lying and manipulating, you little con.
You have posted some date about retirement age in Europe, suggesting that every country in the EU are doing the same - i.e. increasing retirement age !
Whereas data clearly shows that only Poland's government changes has risen retirement age to the highest level in Europe and earlier than exemplary Germany.
You argument that Poland should do it because others are doing that doesn't hold water. It is another shity nonsense in the long string of nonsenses you posted in defiance of the truth.
Given the fact that average life expectancy in Poland is eight years lower than in the countries of the old EU and work for elderly is not easy available Tusk reforms are clearly seen for what they really is - i.e.reckless misuse of power.
Reason, financial situation of Poland is in a dire state. Tusk gov policy fault!
This reform gives them billion zloty per annum !
theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/jun/24/retirement-ages-oecd-countries
Ironside
14 May 2012
Ironside
14 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
that is some political website of Micheal Goldfarb ....phew!?
have you read my post ?
I have provided correct data while you provided incorrect and then you trying to salvage your loses by quoting some odd website !
Why are you debating with yourself ?You have given your arguments why such change in Poland is needed now and why it should be done in this way and I have responded !
Please respond to my original post, otherwise our chat makes no sense !
quote=jon357]What makes you think that a. he'd be doing the same thing or that b. the government haven't thought about that? They aren't PiS, so they do actually think[/quote]
do they ? the question remains about what ?because hey are not doing that well governing that country !
What makes me think that haven't thought about that ?Like missing promised motorways, like the way they handled the Smolensk crash .....
From an article August 2011
that is some political website of Micheal Goldfarb ....phew!?
Iron, I have bad news for you:
have you read my post ?
I have provided correct data while you provided incorrect and then you trying to salvage your loses by quoting some odd website !
Why are you debating with yourself ?You have given your arguments why such change in Poland is needed now and why it should be done in this way and I have responded !
Please respond to my original post, otherwise our chat makes no sense !
quote=jon357]What makes you think that a. he'd be doing the same thing or that b. the government haven't thought about that? They aren't PiS, so they do actually think[/quote]
do they ? the question remains about what ?because hey are not doing that well governing that country !
What makes me think that haven't thought about that ?Like missing promised motorways, like the way they handled the Smolensk crash .....
Ironside
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]
Hey it is not about resentments its about bitting reality !
It is more complicated than that, much more .....
I don't know about blame, I know that unconsciously parents can pass to their children depression, or they are prone to depression, the same goes with traumas.
Is not even that, antebellum Poland had aristocracy, middle class, merchants, farmers and poor and all that after there were commies, collaborators, political police and all the rest.
Do you think that by the magical snap of fingers restore everything and make all go away ?There are natural consequences!
Don't you think that society itself is to be blamed for the scars to be carried over to the next generation?
Hey it is not about resentments its about bitting reality !
It is more complicated than that, much more .....
I don't know about blame, I know that unconsciously parents can pass to their children depression, or they are prone to depression, the same goes with traumas.
Is not even that, antebellum Poland had aristocracy, middle class, merchants, farmers and poor and all that after there were commies, collaborators, political police and all the rest.
Do you think that by the magical snap of fingers restore everything and make all go away ?There are natural consequences!
Ironside
14 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]
Somebody who uses that as an argument in discussion:
Cannot be superior to me in anything, heck couldn't be superior even to political amoeba !
Thank you for you care about my image pawian, I deeply touched!
Iron, could you quit those childish replies and personal remarks, especially when you run into somebody superior in intellect and powers of reasoning?
Somebody who uses that as an argument in discussion:
Cannot be superior to me in anything, heck couldn't be superior even to political amoeba !
They add nothing to the discussion but greatly spoil your image here( the matter if it can be spoiled any further is debatable).
Thank you for you care about my image pawian, I deeply touched!
Ironside
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]
Sure they are ! What do you think ? Certain reality that you grow in, is having an impact on you, that is obvious !Young people ?Why enormous, many people were forced to immigrate or live with their parents.....and many more .....
Isn't that obvious ? Are you foolishly assuming that Poland would be the same as it is without WWII?
How long ? I don't know ...do you think that I have an answer to everything ?I think three generation or seven, provided Poland will remain an independent country !
I'm just saying as it is ! Do you refuse to recognize that every action brings reaction ?
Are they still "scarred" by WW2 and the communist era?
Sure they are ! What do you think ? Certain reality that you grow in, is having an impact on you, that is obvious !Young people ?Why enormous, many people were forced to immigrate or live with their parents.....and many more .....
Isn't that obvious ? Are you foolishly assuming that Poland would be the same as it is without WWII?
How long ? I don't know ...do you think that I have an answer to everything ?I think three generation or seven, provided Poland will remain an independent country !
I'm just saying as it is ! Do you refuse to recognize that every action brings reaction ?
Ironside
14 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]
Fit or not what kind of job could possibly find manual laborer at the age 66 or even 64. In Poland where average life expectancy for males is about 71?
Do you think that an average 66 years old do not have some underlaying health issue which would impair his ability to compete with 30 years old ?
Ask any physician.
a good printer ?
Fit or not what kind of job could possibly find manual laborer at the age 66 or even 64. In Poland where average life expectancy for males is about 71?
Do you think that an average 66 years old do not have some underlaying health issue which would impair his ability to compete with 30 years old ?
Ask any physician.
Unless you know of some magic source of money.
a good printer ?
Ironside
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]
Those scars exist everywhere, those things do no disappear without trace, they have impact on material, psychosocial, cultural, political, financial and social reality of Poland's reality and society.
Say that small event as 11.09, considerably minor disaster given the country status. What impact has it made on peoples and country reality ? Tiny disaster and big effects.
Multiply that times by billion and than add 40 years of prison for survivors.
And then tell me in detail how that affected your society.
I guess you mean - customer service and an attitude towards customer - one!
I was looking for more current examples, current social/cultural characteristics we can see today, etc.
Those scars exist everywhere, those things do no disappear without trace, they have impact on material, psychosocial, cultural, political, financial and social reality of Poland's reality and society.
Say that small event as 11.09, considerably minor disaster given the country status. What impact has it made on peoples and country reality ? Tiny disaster and big effects.
Multiply that times by billion and than add 40 years of prison for survivors.
And then tell me in detail how that affected your society.
I guess you mean - customer service and an attitude towards customer - one!