History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [593]


any links that link NSZ with those "murders"?

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [593]


stop lying !

Genealogy / Poland Heraldry and Nobility in names/families [59]


I'm pretty certain that is not the case.
See for yourself:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Herby_szlachty_polskiej

Genealogy / Poland Heraldry and Nobility in names/families [59]

No difference,Belarus was an integral part of the Grand Dutch of Lithuania. Lithuanian Heraldry derived and emulated Polish Heraldry.

Genealogy / Poland Heraldry and Nobility in names/families [59]

There you go:



Some more:





something that may interest you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_titled_nobility#Princes

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [593]


Some people say anything. That myth has been busted a long time ago!

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

What does it matter ? He display common sense at least. Which cannot be said about some people living in Poland !

It seems to me that some people instead of looking for things that connect them are focusing on differences to divide people and then to make it easy to force on them some totalitarian philosophy.

USA, Canada / Polish-American criminals [70]


You are not OK whatever you are ! You kind of mental and intellectual drivel is so pitifully hateful that no matter what you are, you are pathetic.


Maybe ...

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


bingo !


lady ? :D
Poor harry going bonkers !


Well the world would be a better place without you ! Such people like you are hate mongering mental dwarfs !


You are not discussing topics. You spread propaganda and lies!Yes harry there are not half-trues but there are whole lies !
Stop your propaganda and we can discus the topic.

I-S not that I think you will.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Yeah tell us more about your love for Poles ! You must be Nazi through and through .....but honestly stop that gibberish and skunky interpretation of yours, if you are unwilling or unable to understand the past and complicated situation of many people that for goodness sake shut up your gob.

Funny thought that you are not going about number of Jews who were working for German state or for Gestapo.


Should be banned altogether from the country, Poland would be better of for it. And there would be less miserable half wits looking to blame Poles for all the wrongs of the world.


Thanks yehudi I think the same, would you agree that Harry sound Jewish ?


Yeah Harry because it is the duty of Poles to do nothing else than saving Jews, right ? On the other hand Britain and any given country doesn't own anything to Poland, right ?

Wait ! Tell us more how much you like Poland, maybe somebody will believe you !


There was KOP, preforming similar functions - grasping at straws again ?


No, that never was their country. For most of them anyway, those whose Poles-Jews who were patriots of that country shared a sad fate of Polish patriots during and after WWII>


According to many constitutions, in many countries citizen are equal - do you really believe that to be true?

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


What about Jews then?

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]

for example; I would spread libelous information about your grandmother and presumably she is not with us, Would I be allowed to do it?

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]


I know, I was there, while you were pissing your nappies.


credible to whom ?any names ?


Do you have prove that he was a traitor, you know for the court, stipulations are not counting.

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]


Ah ? From books, nice !


priceless :D


they try and they try and somehow all comes to naught.
As Harry said there some who never moved and nobody bothers them, but Harry thinks that because they are no Jewish, but Harry would think that being err non compos menti.


You lot are doing it overtime besides he is not in charge.


Have you considered that somebody may take you to the court for spreading libelous informations?


Really ? post-communist, WSI, rings any bells ?I think not, you are chasing your own tail, looking for racists and anti-Semites !


I tell you if you tell me your age ... no free lunches.

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]


His experience of Poland three years - what he can know but really ?few everyday details?
No, his age(if told the truth) and his attitude (ie I know it all) whereas he is easily impress or he just do not care for what may seem to him internal politics, or just side with his friends.

I just say that he is not in position to be judgmental !


Sure it isn't, I'm Polish and I know all the forces at play in Poland. I also know the stake, few inches left and I would have been more open minded, so to speak.


Oh no Harry, I have, I tried to make a difference, but there are still soviets in charge.
That is the reason I don't like you aside from the fact that you are not quite right in the head, you think that in the vacuum without real Polish elite you can imprint your ideas as to what Poland's path should be.

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]

All if this information were relevant to the issue debated and furthermore I consequently refuse to post any personal information on the Internet.

However delphian definite opinions on complex issues and brushing off past as a dust which means nothing are not on.
It easy for him as he hasn't lived or experiences much !
his attitude is shallow and need to be corrected.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


Am I ? that is a news to me ! other than ugly and stupid way of classify everybody who is opposed to criminally incompetent PO government as PiS what else did you pick up from your PO friends /maybe I should ask you to explain each and every PO's blunders ?


O curse they are, do your homework,


Well, you actually think that I'm stupid ! what kind of excuse is that / nobody has to "give" anything to anybody - just an access !

It doesn't answer my question - why wreckage is in the Russian hands along with black box ? After all there is nothing to hide, all have been solved and explained by MAK and Polish report !


here -

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]


Really ? Are you in postion to judge delph ? You are what - 25, 26 and three years in Poland ?/ what make you such expert on all things ?

I say that without him things would be even better for Poland.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


What theories and why you ask me ? Ask PiS!
As for experts, there a few of them whose calculations and expertise definitely put a big question mark on the official report.
not their fault that they have no access to the wreckage and the black box - why those are still in the Russian hands ?
Why PO done nothing about it?


there is actually an interesting piece of information,


the-Roma what ?
what about the African nation then, what Kunta Kinte would have said at such racist omission eh?

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


That some dude opinion, good as any in here !

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

freepl.info/2426-eugene-poteat-smolensks-crash

Eugene Poteat on the Smolensk's crash

History / Where is Helena Wolińska-Brus buried? [52]


wtf? you change your mind like a woman

Language / Your favourite Polish proverb? [16]


I have Never heard it before - how it goes in Polish ?

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


Well, maybe, I'm not watching closely, the only reason I posted in this thread lately were your posts.
I think that all details could be clarified and there is no sinister motives as you seems to suggest.


I still do not see how that would help - but let it go.


Thats different, he is presenting his simulation, not his fault that the only politician interested in his results is Maciarewicz (intelligent, and very down to Earth fellow), I'm sure if Tusk would have asked him he would have had presented his simulation in Tusk company rather than M.


As I said I haven't been watching closely all those developments. However I understand that all the data Binienda used in his stimulations comes from Russian report.

(I understand what you said about data from B. stimulations, but that would be recreating his simulation) Wouldn't be more prudent and fruitful to take original data from the Russian report and conduct their own stimulation - if both simulations would differ then there would be question of checking of both calculations or conduct yet another one.

So far it looks like A. is saying, that cannot be right let me check your notebook - he isn't B. teacher or mentor.

I don't think it works like that, but anyway that is not important.
The important part is - calculations and stimulation can be check - if he is wrong there is plenty experts on the globe, prove him wrong - simples !

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]

I think that a real problem are yobs or half-yobs. Especially given economic and social climate in Poland, left to their own devices, in many towns, young blocks can be picking on anybody different - not necessarily colored.

Overall I think that Poland is still pretty save place to be....
I think that is due to the fragmentation of society.
I wouldn't worry about small towns or villages.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


This time I was oversimplifying I don't think that he is an aviation expert per se. However he is an expert in his field. Everyday he is dealing with materials and mechanisms used in building aircraft. That way he is dealing with aviation.

To put it plainly he calculated that wing of Tu-154 couldn't be cut off by a birch of that size. All the calculations and simulation are there for any scientist to see.

You don't agree with him - fine prove that his calculation are wrong -fair enough.
Any scientist can do it - that scientific and only way.
Appearing on TV and babbling something about the issue is not the way at all. I don't need to know anything about Arytmowicz to know that it is politics not science what he is playing at. He is taking part in propaganda, I don't know whether he is doing that for money or other reasons but he is not doing it as a scientist.


Sure he is, he is politician after all.
It doesn't affect those calculations though.


boletus hold your horses, to investigate a crash there is plenty of experts needed, among them pilots, experts like Binienda and all, however here is only some theoretical calculation and only theoretical calculation can contradict that.

Anyway I don't understand what being a pilot has to do with it. After all pilots do not mow down threes on daily bases.


Lets cut the chase you are motivated by political bias. He is not right doctor, his part in propaganda performance disqualified him.

The right way to do it - i.e. explain Smolensk crash - is to assembly real commission and real experts, ask the USA for assistance and reclaim plane and black boxes.

This is the only way.
As for Binieda his theory is just theory but as long as somebody will not prove him wrong I think that is probable theory.


Speaking about swine ...............don't go monkey on me now! Because I will go Iron monkey on you if you will behave like that.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]

Every assault on person or person should be punished by the law regardless of the race. Thats all and rest is just mucking about!

News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]


spieprzaj dziadu !

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]


Well, I don't question that but it is counterweight by the fact that there is possibility that a plane wing can cut down the "twig".


OK boletous once again:
You provided examples of accidents when a plane looses wing or wings against threes.
I'm just telling you that you should provide examples either of Tu-154 or planes of similar construction. Otherwise your examples are waste of typing power.

If your approach is a plane is just a plane then why not provide examples of planes loosing wings during the time when they enjoyed canvas and wood construction for wings.


What about ? That contrary to your claims you are not objective nor scientific in this thread.


I don't care what he uses. He is scientist yes but he is not specialist and his field has nothing to do with aviation.

Even if their work intervene at times( as does most of science ) it doesn't mean that it is the same.
Again your approach is oversimplified - any scientist will do.
I understand that when you have problem with your eyes you go to gastrointestinal. After all a doctor is a doctor both do the same in their work, deal with human health.

If Artymowicz would support the other dude theory you would dissolve him as non specialist in the field - we both know that. So, why don't you stop pretending to be impartial?

Nothing personal about it eh?

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

boletus


OK boletus you asked for it.
I will sacrifice some of my precious time on you. I generally treat every poster as my equal but you are crying out lout to become my student. I pity your cry for help and hence I'm going to help you.

Are you an expert on aviation accidents? If you are then I would like you to ask you few questions.
However I'm certain that you are no such an expert and the only connection with aviation you have are those brief moments when you are sipping martini while you fly to holiday destination as a jet-passenger.

It means that you are in the same boat like any other poster in this thread. Your opinion is worthed exactly the same as any other Joe or Harry on the PF.

For some reason which is hard to fathom you strongly believe that your posts are more valuable than others and you are some kind of expert.

Your post do not give this imprecision and anybody who even brushed with science can see through your bluster.
First of all they are long and boring, strenuously constructed and laboriously thatched with links but with tenuous effect.
Examples ?there you are :


I think that they can but I'm not an expert/


Sure but there is also plenty examples when threes where cut down by plane wing or wings


Ah ? discovery ! Is it America ? Call me ...er call boletus Columbus !




hey I wasn't paying attention, was plane in Smolensk C-47A, DC - 8 or B23 ? No ?
Why would you present those "random" cases ?What is has to do with Tu-154?
To give any meaning to your presentation you should find examples of crashes with Tu-154 or with a plane whose construction is at least similar to that of TU-154.

Is that your "scientific" comparison ? 12 years old kid could do the same!
You should use this site :
aviation-safety.net/database/type/type-general.php?type=475
Tu-154 is very sturdy.Even loosing 2,5 m of a wing the plane is able to take-off and then land.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manas_International_Airport


I wonder why all countries, employ experts and investigate their air-crashes, spent a lot of money and time, the answer is simple - ask Kevin Parks!

To make it perfectly clear I'm not determining what has happened in Smolensk, I don't know. However Russian and governmental explanation is not good enough,

If that new wonder guy with some scientific theory about crash is not right, I gather that it is easy to contradict him for any expert in the field, isn't not ?

If so where is he or them ?Take your abacus and notes and make an end to this dude mucking about !!!!
If not .......


So would I! What business have Prosecutor Office in this ?Are they experts on aviation accidents ? what are they doing in Prosecutors office pretending to be lawyers?



Finally an expert I'm deeply impressed !!!!
Is he going to prove that Binieda's calculations are wrong (and I'm not saying they are right) by a very modern and advanced method of observing and calculating the movement of celestial bodies.

You are priceless boletus ! Can I call you bolek ?