News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]


Dont worry about us, we are just fine. The fact that German muslims are becoming a more integral part of our society and thus receiving more acceptance is a good sign.


Moat of the German muslims have long entered Germany (or have been born here) long before Merkel became chaancellor. As for idiots. Trumps mismanagement of the Cotons virus might end up killing tens of thousands of Americans, yet people are still supöorting him.

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [996]

It would be good if the EU learned from this crisis and made sure that strategic products can be produced in the EU if needed.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Just further evidence of how stupid American gun laws are.

google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1505227/guns-kill-more-more-us-children-per-year-than-cancer/amp/

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


What is so logical about this? If that is true, then this is honestly completely absurd and just a concession to homophobes.
It is not possible to raise your child "gay" or "straight", otherwise straight couples would not get homosexual children from time to time.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


Your story states the opposite. Your friend evidently failed in taht endeavour.


It is perfectly normal. All we need to teach them isthat some people are born with this orientation, that there is no way to change them and that there is no reason to discriminate against them. Nothing of that will make them gay (ehich is not possible in the first place).

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]

That is not a concern, because it is not possible to change a child's sexual orientation. In fact, homosexual are probably less likely to engage in such child abuse than hetero couples who try to "cure" their gay son, because they have likely more empathy for how senselessly cruel such a behaviour is.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

It is rather amusing that those gun nuts come back even though their only argument boils down to an irrational fear, while gun advocats have all the facts on their side. Then again, Rich is also irrational influenced by fear in his other views, so I guess it is pathological in his case.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


No it has not. It is just one the many claims you make.

But at this point, we have made each others position clear. If it validates your existence to wallow in empty hatred than so be it. But I'll make to look into thread once progress is reaching Poland, which is only a matter of time.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]

What is so "natural" about homophobia? There is no rational argument to justify it.

I don't dislike conservatism, it just should not be used to discriminate against people.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


Strange how Christian is nowadays for many a code wort to justify hatred and bigotry. It used to be the opposite.


No they have not. There is no correlation between homosexuality and paedophilia, unless you apply double standards which are not used on "hetero" people.


I don't need to be gay to have some empathy and basic human decency. Well, maybe it is my Christian upbringing that taught me that hatred is never the answer.

Empty hatred, that is all there is to it.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


As if that was relevant, even to people who see that as more than a fantasy book. We don't stone adulterers anymore either. Or discriminate them in any other legal way.


Because he is their parent, not their father. Two men can be just as loving towards a child than a hetero couple.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


Associating gay people with paedophilia is as hateful as it can get.


Then you must be in favour of gay couples, since they mean two parents for a child.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


There is nothing supposed about it. They will be oppressed as long as gay couples don't have the same rights as hetero couples, it is as simple as that.


There are children who nowadays grow up with single parents, or whose parents are divorced. Having instead two loving fathers or mothers is certainly better than that.


Just goes to show how irrational your arguments are.

Hate, hate hate. That is really all there is to your arguments. And some strange persecution complex, because it somehow infringes on your rights when others are treated the same as you.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Might as well say about you Americans when you believe this ridiculous nonsense. What this scenario completely ignores that a hypothetical "tyrannical" government is likely not some foreign entity, but one that will have significant support from the population, or else it would not be in that position. That some guns would make a difference against a foe that additionally will have drones, jets et al. is ludicrous. Then again you Americans have been brainwashed enough by the NRA to accept maass shootings as a daily part of your life, so no surprise there.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Rich is not just disproportionate in his desire for safety. He is supporting laws that are actually making his life more dangerous without owning a gun himself. Furthermore he is also putting his family ar risk by owning a gun. He is more likely to injure/kill them with it than defending them against a possible intruder.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Are you really ignoring here all the structural flaws and what Greece did to get those loans? Greece was not duped by the banks to accept loans it could not pay. It actively deceived those banks in order to get those loans.


The Euro itself is a solid but flawed construct, the main flaw was that the member states did not agree to mlre supervision by the ECB to make sure they were not lying. When the Euro was envisioned, it was not considered to let countries like Greece or even Italy in. Both only joined after some creative boook-keeping and a lot of lobbying in Bruessels. Against the resistance of the German finance minister mind you.


After joining the Euro, Greece suddenly only had to pay interests rate at the same level as Germany did, instead of its' far higher one when it had its' own currency. It saved billions each year because of that, but it did not use the money prudently.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

Well, they were of course comfortable hiding behind Merkel and Germans make a convenient scapegoat. Imagine the outcry if Germany had like Finland demanded special guarantees from Greece, which I think were to tied to its' gold reserves.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Those transfers did in fact happen via the cheap loans that Greece received after entering the Eurozone. Greece could have used the money to modernize its' country. Instead the Greek government blew it on vanity projects like the Olympic games or to bribe voters. Let us be completely candid. Greece was driving towards disaster before it joined the Euro, because the structural problems were already there. Joining the Euro only accelerated it.

Another thing to consider is that Germany was by no means the harshest creditor towards Greece. Especially the small, often poorer than Greece, countries of the of the Eurozone had a hardline stance towards Greece, and their approval was needed as well.

google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/09/poorer-than-greece-the-eu-countries-that-reject-a-new-athens-bailout

Thirdly, the Greek governments, particulary the Tsipras government, was not helpful in finding a solution. The whole mess started when it was revealed that Greece had been systematically lying to its' partners, and it only got worse from then on. The Greek governments rarely upheld their promises and dragged their feet on reforms. And then there was this complete disaster that the maniac Varoufakis caused. None of that helped Greece's negotiation position.

Finally, Greece did in fact made some incredible advancements in e.g. reforming its' bureaucracy. As a Greek government report said, they made more progress in the time 2008-2018 than in the three decades preceeding it. But that also highlights how far behind Greece was. I mean they did not even have a central registry of the landowners in Greece, no wonder nobody paid landowner taxes. Even most African had one at this point.


Aside from the fact that French and Italian banks were actually more exposed to Greece, it is worth noting that most of those loans were made on a sound base, going from the knowledge that was available. The banks looked at the evaluation of Greece via the ECB, which was based on the (falsified) numbers provided by Greece. There was no way of knowing that Greece would be lying so brazenly about its' deficite. Again, Greece is not the helpless victim here. They actively asked for loans and even cooked the books to get them.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


You do know that the Greek governments were actively deceiving the other government and Bruessels about their spending and deficite right?

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

Case in point, here are a lot of examples listed on.

nationalpost.com/news/world/greece-zakyntos-island-of-the-blind-scam-822595

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


That would be even more ridiculous. If he wants to know about the Greek problems, he should google for "Island of blind people", Expenditure of the Olympic games in Greece and "Fakelaki" to get an idea.

History / BARBAROUS / BARBARIC / BARBARIAN tribes in Poland [62]

A good start would be your definition of "Barbarians". Because in the original sense of the word, Barbaroi were all non-Greeks. The Romans later applied the term to all people not under their dominion, so in the case of Poland, it would apply to all. Do you mean tribes that lived in what is now Poland during Ancient times?

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


The refugee crisis was caused by the breakdown of Arab societies and the rise of the Islamic state, both of which Germany played no part in. In fact it could be argued that Poland is more responsible since it aided in the destabilization of Iraq.

By 2015, Southern Europe and the Balkans were no longer able to cope with the arrival of refugees and asked for help. Northern Europe refused, so particulary Italy just started sending them North. Merkel only decided to help them when the BND told her that there was a chance that the Balkans might be destablized if they were forced to permantly have to deal with the 1m refugees that had arrived at this point. Merkel was at time the only European politician who actually thought off the bigger picture.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

Well, I hope that future generations can laugh about what happens in our time.

It is just a nice change of pace that Germans will be able to look back at recent history and be proud of how their country acted during a time of crisis.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

People often only realize later what they had in a leader. People were glad when long-time kings like Louis XIV and Frederick II died, because they craved change, but changed their mind later when it became clear that their successors could not live up to them. The same counts for politicians. People breathed a sigh of relief when Bismarck and Adenauer resigned, but their tenure is nowadays remembered as a really good time. People are now sick of Merkel because she has been so long in power, but in 20 years she will be remembered as the greatest European politician of her time.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

Yeah right, it was Merkel's fault that the Greek economy collapsed and not years of mismanagement, tax evasion and corruption by the Greeks.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


Are also nowadays able to have children if they so desire, thanks to medicine. Of course that is easier for lesbian couples, but surrogacy is an option for gay people. But even if it were still impossible for homosexual couples to have children, that is no reason to discriminate against. There are many hetero couples who are unable to conceive children for medical reasons, and others do not intent to have children in the first place. There are even many hetero couples who engage in sexual practices that dont even a theoretical chance of conceiving a child. I would fully support the notion that only married couples with children get e.g. tax benefits, because the reason they do is because the state wants to encourage people to get children. But why should for example a childless married couple over 60 receive those bonuses, while homosexual couples do not? Neither of them have any children, but the homosexual couple might theoretically still conceive one via medical means.


That may become issue once full equality is achieved and hate crimes against LBGTQ are no longer an issue, but as long as those are not achieved or exist, this is certainly not the case.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Well, families were no longer torn apart on slave auctions and they were no longer bred like cattle, and free black people did no longer face the danger of enslavement whwn they visited the South, so yes, things did improve for them.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_breeding_in_the_United_States

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


You are such an innocent snowflake in one way. I don't know if anyone has bothered to give you the "talk" but there are ways of sexual intercourse in which hetero couples engage in and which are not intended for reproduction (nevermind that most couples dont have sex with the aim of producing children and may even take active measures to prevent). And just because you dont like anal doesnt mean other hetero couples dont either.


Sure, but this has nothing to do with homosexuality. Unless you want to imply that you as a hetero are potential molester of girls.


But this is what your arguments ultimately feed fronm . Insecurities are the most benevolent interpretation mind you. You hate them, possibly for reasons you dont want to admit to yourself, and try to justify it with arguments that fall apart at the first glance. Because ultimately they are just window dressings for you empty hatred.

News / POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption [120]


I am not talking about reproduction. There are lots of other species who engage in homosexual behaviour. Since most sexual intercourse is nowadays not done with reproduction in mind, this is hardly an argument. Science has shown that people are born with their sexual orientation and can not change. Trying to convince homosexuals that there sexuality is wrong is an act of useless cruelty.


It is more like you forcing your belief on others, namely that homosexuality is "deviant" when there is no rational argument for it. Poland will only advance as a society when it does not base its' values on superstition and hatred. But to Polands' credit, it is moving into the right direction.

@ Rich Mazur


Q.E.D.