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Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]
@johnny reb
Actually not, the Typhoon did beat the F35 in NATO war games dog fights. Even worse, its easy prey for the russian SU-35 as well. As i said, its a crap aircraft. There is a reason why the only real military that uses them "UK" sticks to typhoon
businessinsider.com/f-35-could-not-dogfight-typhoon-su-35-2016-8?r=DE&IR=T
The F-35 cannot outdogfight a Typhoon (or a Su-35), never in a million years."
For that reason, older fighters like the Eurofighter Typhoon or the Sukhoi Su-35 could most likely outmaneuver and destroy an F-35 in a close-range confrontation.
"Typhoon and Su-35 both have positive thrust-to-weight ratios at combat loadings, meaning that they can accelerate vertically and generally both maintain and regain energy in a turn much more successfully than the F-35 (particularly the heavier B and C models)," Bronk said.
Not only does stealth limit the F-35's mobility, but it also limits its capacity for ordnance.
"Typhoon and Su-35 also carry larger missile loadouts than F-35 in normal combat configurations, meaning that at close range they have twice as many infrared seeking missiles to fire at their opponents," Bronk said.
As Business Insider previously explored, infrared tracking is key to finding and fighting advanced stealth aircraft like the F-35.
@Torq
You dont get additional stuff. You get cheated.
When Trump offered Germany the F-35 price was 125 million € per unit.
When Germany kicked the offer away and said it will go for Eurofighter, the americans tried it via price, going down to 80 million per unit plus tech exchange and production in Germany.
You know how deals are made? Not by sucking dick. Poland accepts evry price USA demands.
Who knows, Germany needs 16 jets for nuclear capability. So we might order 70 eurofighter and 20 F-35 out of mercy. Maybe we can negotiate that **** down to 60 million per unit.
