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Posts by Ironside  

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Ironside   
30 Jun 2010
History / Poles should emulate Jews? [153]

Jews may argue amongst themselves but usually present a solid front to the outside world.

Its valour of religious minority believing itself superior.
Ironside   
17 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Is your line of the Polish family noble? [74]

Thats a bit of a low punch PLK,

he is joking and you are taking it thick.
Should be :

Nobility as English or French would understand was called in Poland

Ironside   
17 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Is your line of the Polish family noble? [74]

Quite frankly, I find it fascinating that so many people hope to find "nobility" in their ancestry.

You thinking in terms of English nobility - money wise.
In Poland nobility was term extended to about 10% of the population not necessary landed or rich.
For a sake of better understanding instead of nobility or feudal, one should think in term of citizenship, Polish noble it first of all citizen of his country with rights and privileges unlike the others residents of Polish Kingdom!

Citizen not unlike Roman Citizen in the Roman Empire.
Nobility in English or French was called in Poland - magnate, lord or aristocracy!
They were indeed money wise - pity it was lost.
Ironside   
16 Jun 2010
Study / Rumor about racism - will I be fine in Poland as a black International student from Africa? [245]

Hmm Poland,a good place bro.

why?

But you have to be careful of those polish racists calling you ***key cuzz you are black or spitting at you.

not nice

Yesterday monday 14,June 2010,I was walking with my polish girlfriend and a woman just walked past us and said my girfriend is stupid bcos she's going out with a blackman.

What wrong with it?
Ironside   
16 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]

I don't quite understand what Bismarck meant when comparing the Polish to the Iroquois.

destined to extinct ?
How about that one ?
Ironside   
15 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]

Not necessary Bismark, it could be one of those freakish Prussian leaders.

No it was Frederick

I'm last to argue about it!

Prussia and its army were inseparable, but Prussia was also renowned for its efficient, incorruptible civil service; its innovative system of social services; its religious tolerance; and its unrivaled education system, a model for the rest of Germany and the world. ...

Yeah modern crap - totalitarian state - in XIX century but a first step, could be seen as advanced.

lark, a Cambridge historian, suggests that the world is poorer for Prussia's absence.

Sure, nothing new there Britain supported Prussian state from the very being of an upstart. Anyway one lark make no difference!

"Freakish" huh? Your education seems to have been freakish...

What it has to do with education? Its my a very own conclusion.......
tell me that state school is good and progressive and I will call you freakish mass production of an misconception as was Prussian state !
Ironside   
14 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]

The Kulturkampf wasn't anti-polish! But to modernize Prussia and make it a seculare nation state...as all modern countries are today, where state and church are separated!

Prussian state it was a freakish state its a pity that Germanic states were consolidated by this ugly monstrous modern state - totalitarian state
Ironside   
14 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]

Not necessary Bismark, it could be one of those freakish Prussian leaders.
Ironside   
14 Jun 2010
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

the Polish past and then even worse a falsified version of it.

where are you from then? Where is this golden land where past is not "falsified"?

They existed until the 4th century AD... The Polish "nobility" pretended they were Sarmatians..

Whatever you say but recently historian started to pay a closer attention to what their were saying also to some graphic and archaeological evidence.
I wouldn't been so haste if I were you to pass definite judgement based on few books you happened to come across.

Accept that your nobility was selling you to whatever Power present, just to keep their horses. "

What are you talking about ? Are you unwell?
Ironside   
14 Jun 2010
History / Poles as Iroquois of Europe [42]

I think it was Bismark who compared Poles to Iroquois. I wonder what he had in mind.
Maybe it was a wishful thinking!
He couldn't knew about Lacrosse?!
Ironside   
14 Jun 2010
History / Polish and other Slavic nobility in our time [71]

Those who read Polish

there is difference between knights and nobles, its seems that for you is a vague difference.
When you talk about ennobling it means you are taking about times after knights era.
Ironside   
13 Jun 2010
History / Polish and other Slavic nobility in our time [71]

Please elaborate and tell us what things were really like.

Well, in the most cases of compact nobles settlement was a result of dividing land to all children (often 6 or more) and even large area could become "patchy" in two generations.

For their service to theh country (usually miliatry service or defending the lord's castle) especially in the poor Podlasie region entire villages were ennobled.

I don't know instances when entire village was ennobled. Peasants were ennobled for military services but mostly they had to be recruited from Royal domain. In all such cases status of a noble were usually granted to individuals.

Only exceptions were made for Tatars, when their regiment had been ennobled en mass to ensure their military service on the Polish side, but it was more likely in Duchy than in Crown.
Ironside   
13 Jun 2010
History / Polish and other Slavic nobility in our time [71]

For their service to theh country (usually miliatry service or defending the lord's castle) especially in the poor Podlasie region entire villages were ennobled.

it wasn't quite so,
Ironside   
7 Jun 2010
History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

And if you are such a proud man of your nation

You didn't understand my point. I'll explain it to you.
You claim to be Polish, yet you said that you are ashamed of being Pole, correct?
So, my advice to you become citizen of other country and claim to be .....whoever!
Move on!
Why you are on PF whining about whining Poles?!
I have no time for a such wet-blanket or troll.

I-S (tiens)
Ironside   
7 Jun 2010
History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

He does have freedom of speech and I don't think he was being inflammatory. The accuracy of his statements is up to others to verify.

Same goes for me as I have the very same right to voice my opinion.
I my opinion if someone is ashamed of what or who he/she is should change it!

But it's a generalisation that has much practical evidence to support it, Ironside. Poles can be very touchy and that's just an observation, not a criticism.

Well, they can but I think that goes for many people. I think that is about respect if you can convey a healthy dose of respect then you can make an critical observation without being offensive to anyone.
Ironside   
7 Jun 2010
History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

Now I am generally ashamed to be Polish, the only good thing about being polish is having a EU passport. The more time i spent around polish people, I realized that they are by far the most negative and backward thinking group of people I have ever met.

That what made me kind of angry at you if you are Polish as you claim.
Don't like being Polish move on and don't come back!

They get angry at anybody who disagrees with them or who has a different opinion :)

that a very unfair generalisation, shame on you M-G

tiens)

same to you
Ironside   
7 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / The proper behavior an American should show when visiting Poland [115]

Well, we have no choice but to pursue it; profit puts food in the belly.. not socialist grandfathers.

Well, in that case there nothing wrong with Polish illegals the USA, pursing money in any which way they can?!

No toilet paper lines here either.

Aren't you lucky pincher ?