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New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]
I don't think that he was expecting to be given privileges or special treatment over a Pole,
OK, for the record a Pole in his stead would have been told to get lost by the police. Simple.
So he should have known
Chemikiem I'm translating for you what that police officer said - I don't necessary agree with him. OK?
Yes he was, and the club tried to say that he was denied entry on the grounds that the club was full.
Doesn't it matter on what ground he was refused an entry? It wasn't against the law. So what crime has been committed and by whom?
Are you not automatically siding with that Shih?
Let take a step back here. I know why I have found that story as related by the press believable to a degree. You on the other hand took it all on faith just because he belongs to a swarthy, turban wearing minority in Europe. Am I right?
Are you saying that regardless of the circumstances of a person being refused entry, the police would automatically side with the bouncer, no questions asked?
Bouncers in Poland have the right to deny an entry to a club to anyone. So in that case while Shih has been arguing, questioning that decision, violence used by the bouncer could be seen (I don't know what the law say about it) as acting perfectly within his rights. Using as much force as is necessary to deal with a person who doesn't take NO for an answer.
Clearly, in this case, even the club thought the bouncer was out of order as the security services the bouncer was a part of, were terminated.
The club clearly wants to attract foreigners with money ( and hence I know that Shih didn't lie) so clearly he has been poorly trained D-head guarding the door. Most likely from a security company with no much standing, which had been hired only because they're providing cheap services.
but Poland has acknowledged there is a problem with racism within the country,
What country has no problems with this or that? I don't see that racism is a problem in Poland, anti-social attitude and behavior that is a real problem.
The Polish police have created a Polish platform against hatred, and the last government set up the anti-discrimination council
Come on Chemikiem you have no real understanding of the issue involved and I don't think this is the right thread to talk about it. I say that all this doesn't mean much and let's leave it at that.
One has to ask if enough is being done, given the attitudes of the police.
Why? Why would you concern yourself with a foreign country? A country in which you clearly need to dig long and hard to find any occurrence that can be interpreted as racist and almost none in the serious crime category.
Would that be an ideological bias?
In Białystok, local police failed to investigate a series of physical assaults
I know very little about that but I'm going to find out more. I really don't know what it is all about.
A sloppy police work.
wave of hate crimes had taken place, painting some of the perpetrators instead as drunken soccer hooligans acting alone."
Could be a very well the case - why not?
According to the figures provided by the Polish police
Somehow I'm skeptical about that. That illegal immigrants show across Europe coupled with terrorist attacks that could rise people tempers that I agree with but still....
I already listed 2 organisations that had been set up in Poland by Polish authorities
If you mean PO they most likely were trying to suck up to their friends in Europe and that is the only reason those organizations were created.
I sincerely hope it doesn't but you can't ignore people being attacked because of who they are.
People always have been attacked for who they are, how they look like, what they are doing, where they are.
There is nothing new in this. The point is that all crimes should be treated seriously without creating special categories of a crime in the law unless there is an overriding imperative that compels you to create those special laws.
I'm absolutely certain that Poland hasn't reached that stage that would deem necessary to do it.
but in that Białystok case for example, only when attacks culminated in arson, did the police do anything.
I told you that I don't think much about Polish police professionalism that was an euphemism, I think that they suck big time! New laws wouldn't improve their performance.
I really didn't notice anything that bad Iron!
My point being that if that bothers you I'll correct it.
but here is the article.
He is alluding to all those demonstrations against Poland being forced to take in a quota of these illegal immigrants. Speeches made on those demonstrations or on TV and such.
That has nothing to do with racial tension escalating but with the politics. He is making a political stance as he is supporting PO and those forces that lost in the last election.
He is trying to paint those patriotic (nationalistic) organization as racist, xenophobic and whatnot and to paint the current government PiS with the same brush in the eyes of the foreign viewer.
All the best.
