Ironside
18 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Geez you have the cheek, that I grant you freely!
We helped in 1939, we helped in Martial Law, we helped with EU grants.
Geez you have the cheek, that I grant you freely!
Ironside
18 Dec 2015
News / Should Poland exit the EU immediately? [377]
Could you, Harry, jon and maf stop spamming my thread with your musings? you are off topic!
Crow you are always posting the same unless you have something new to say on the subject of this thread - scud.
G(undercover) do not encourage, they have been talking BS for long as I remember, especially about Poland. Evidently post-communist system attracted wrong kind of investors and investments and wrong kind of immigrants.
It is not their fault, they are what their are.
Reminder topic - Should Poland exist the EU immediately?
attacking foreign investors who create jobs?
Could you, Harry, jon and maf stop spamming my thread with your musings? you are off topic!
Crow you are always posting the same unless you have something new to say on the subject of this thread - scud.
G(undercover) do not encourage, they have been talking BS for long as I remember, especially about Poland. Evidently post-communist system attracted wrong kind of investors and investments and wrong kind of immigrants.
It is not their fault, they are what their are.
Reminder topic - Should Poland exist the EU immediately?
Ironside
17 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Many people will be rightly blamed but I will blame you!
If there's blood on the streets and civil war, then the only person that can be blamed is Jarosław Kaczyński.
Many people will be rightly blamed but I will blame you!
Ironside
17 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
you sill do not get it do you!
There is no way thing will go back to the way they were, whoever think that is wrong.
You don't have a feel for Polish moods, you were certain that PO will win, you were wrong and I was right, look at the respective posts.
If you think that majority of people are supporting demonstrations you are wrong.
The reason I'm annoyed by your flaming here is that I don't want blood on the streets and civil war. If that happens I will personally blame you!
If they can't deal with a very peaceful protest, then they deserve all they get.
you sill do not get it do you!
There is no way thing will go back to the way they were, whoever think that is wrong.
You don't have a feel for Polish moods, you were certain that PO will win, you were wrong and I was right, look at the respective posts.
If you think that majority of people are supporting demonstrations you are wrong.
The reason I'm annoyed by your flaming here is that I don't want blood on the streets and civil war. If that happens I will personally blame you!
Ironside
17 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
That bill they voted on was at the time of the vote no binding anymore. So they could just save themselves the bother.
Focus, factual as to facts about TK actions.
Do you want to talk about your abusive behavior? We can ask mods and old members here about the pattern of your behavior and abuses you are dishing out here.
If you are refusing to talk to me it would be a very nice on your part if you would also restrain yourself from talking about me or my posts here. Unless you don't have such a superior manners and brains you claim to have.
That bill was ruled on by the TK and parts found to be unconstitutional, as you well know
That bill they voted on was at the time of the vote no binding anymore. So they could just save themselves the bother.
The abuse given towards KOD supporters, the abuse given towards the opposition and the general abusive behaviour in general?
Focus, factual as to facts about TK actions.
Do you want to talk about your abusive behavior? We can ask mods and old members here about the pattern of your behavior and abuses you are dishing out here.
When your only tool is a hammer.....
If you are refusing to talk to me it would be a very nice on your part if you would also restrain yourself from talking about me or my posts here. Unless you don't have such a superior manners and brains you claim to have.
Ironside
17 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Says you.
I'm not talking about amendment but about the bill of the new Parliament regarding new judges.
That how legislative process works.
My fair and objective assessment of the action taken by those people who have no respect for the law for democracy or for a common decency is valid and true to facts.
Doesn't work like that.
Says you.
The amendments were judged on the 9th December.
I'm not talking about amendment but about the bill of the new Parliament regarding new judges.
That's not how Polish law works.
That how legislative process works.
Your attack on a democratic institution is entirely the kind of thing expected from the PZPR-bis known as PiS.
My fair and objective assessment of the action taken by those people who have no respect for the law for democracy or for a common decency is valid and true to facts.
Ironside
17 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
They ruled in the case of a bill from the previous Parliament which has been amended by the current Parliament.
The reality crated by the law created by the previous bill is not longer binding and hasn't been valid by the time those TK judges decided to have a go at it.
They ought to know it, hence their action can only be read as a politically motived decision and has nothing to do with the law but all with politics.
Not true, those people whop are protesting are the same people who voted for PO or Nowczesna.
Duda's refusal to swear in the new judges now becomes even worse, as he has absolutely no constitutional basis to do so.
They ruled in the case of a bill from the previous Parliament which has been amended by the current Parliament.
The reality crated by the law created by the previous bill is not longer binding and hasn't been valid by the time those TK judges decided to have a go at it.
They ought to know it, hence their action can only be read as a politically motived decision and has nothing to do with the law but all with politics.
That's why many people are protesting. They feel cynically cheated
Not true, those people whop are protesting are the same people who voted for PO or Nowczesna.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
In the end we will see what will happen. I just see no point for your flaming here. Is not as you can whip up some support posting on PF.
Whoever is repeating such a tripe is in fact a clown.
I'm convinced that defenders of the post-colonial state do not have majority and that support them do not grows. All this is just a backlash of black propaganda but that nothing new.
Rather opposite I haven't been supporting PiS but now I will even if I don't like to be put in such a spot. Just because I know those people form so called "opposition"!
It certainly
In the end we will see what will happen. I just see no point for your flaming here. Is not as you can whip up some support posting on PF.
18% of the votes
Whoever is repeating such a tripe is in fact a clown.
I'm convinced that defenders of the post-colonial state do not have majority and that support them do not grows. All this is just a backlash of black propaganda but that nothing new.
Rather opposite I haven't been supporting PiS but now I will even if I don't like to be put in such a spot. Just because I know those people form so called "opposition"!
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Yes their are, yes their are, yes their are.
They weren't questioning results but deeds and actions of a government that is an entirely different issue and their weren't doing it on the streets. They were doing what opposition does.
We? Give me a break you are a foreigner you have not dog in this fight. You don't have convictions and views you just assume some. Anyway people who are doing this are either fools or criminals without a slightest care for this country and for consequences of their actions. If you think that that idiotic Petru or PO have growing support and that majority of people who bother to take interest in politics supports them you are a fool as well.
People who set fire to a building will burn too.
Stop flaming and playing games delph I know you don't care one way or the other as you are a typical p(..) you think is funny, you like to pretend. Find yourself a psychopath test.
No, they really aren't
Yes their are, yes their are, yes their are.
Again, just because PiS spent 8 years questioning every result
They weren't questioning results but deeds and actions of a government that is an entirely different issue and their weren't doing it on the streets. They were doing what opposition does.
It's exactly our faith in Polish democracy that causes us to defend it.
We? Give me a break you are a foreigner you have not dog in this fight. You don't have convictions and views you just assume some. Anyway people who are doing this are either fools or criminals without a slightest care for this country and for consequences of their actions. If you think that that idiotic Petru or PO have growing support and that majority of people who bother to take interest in politics supports them you are a fool as well.
People who set fire to a building will burn too.
Don't worry Ironside, we're not going to let you win this one.
Stop flaming and playing games delph I know you don't care one way or the other as you are a typical p(..) you think is funny, you like to pretend. Find yourself a psychopath test.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
They are ....if they question right of the democratic majority to rule they are in fact questioning result of the election, it has been started by MP's who should known better but they don't.
You are talking porkies again Harry. 18% is a number taken from your backsides, majority of those who bother to vote is not 18%. Stop spreading lies and questioning results of this election.
I'm this way you and people like you are destabilizing Poland. How? In this case any election ever can be always questioned and if this coup against a legal Polish government succeeds legality of following governments will questioned. By any means necessary.
Nobody is protesting about the results of the election
They are ....if they question right of the democratic majority to rule they are in fact questioning result of the election, it has been started by MP's who should known better but they don't.
people are demonstrating against PIS assuming that winning the votes of 18% of Polish adults
You are talking porkies again Harry. 18% is a number taken from your backsides, majority of those who bother to vote is not 18%. Stop spreading lies and questioning results of this election.
I'm this way you and people like you are destabilizing Poland. How? In this case any election ever can be always questioned and if this coup against a legal Polish government succeeds legality of following governments will questioned. By any means necessary.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Won't dignify that spam with an answer.
Sure they are, I'm not talking about their pretext. In fact they are protesting against results. Questioning democracy.
That what you say.
Paranoia hit you hard this time or too much garlic in your diet.
Oh yes their really would. Last six months of their action is very fresh and they can be see for what they really are.
Nah, they don't, they go from one blunder to the next.
You mean PiS and their attempts to override the Constitution so they can do what they want? Yes, agreed.
Won't dignify that spam with an answer.
No-one is protesting about the results.
Sure they are, I'm not talking about their pretext. In fact they are protesting against results. Questioning democracy.
It's not a lie.
That what you say.
PiS are very much destroying the country.
Paranoia hit you hard this time or too much garlic in your diet.
No, they really wouldn't
Oh yes their really would. Last six months of their action is very fresh and they can be see for what they really are.
It's the Constitutional Tribunal, so it will analyse laws on their constitutionality and not on their sensibility
Nah, they don't, they go from one blunder to the next.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
The only haters and slanders are people destabilizing Poland. Protesting against results of democratic election Nowoczesna, PO or PSL stands as one in defense of the post-communist system.
For a simple reason that is a lie!
Whereas TK with all judges form PO would paralyze a newly elected government.
Wake up!!! Wake up!!! PO is no longer the most popular opponent of PiS. You need to hate someone else.
The only haters and slanders are people destabilizing Poland. Protesting against results of democratic election Nowoczesna, PO or PSL stands as one in defense of the post-communist system.
PiS is changing the country for the worse, why not talk about that ?
For a simple reason that is a lie!
Nowoczesna just pointed out this is designed to paralyze the Constitutional Court.
Whereas TK with all judges form PO would paralyze a newly elected government.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
You are guessing what we know is that PO judges have been doing that for years as well including breaking law.
Thing is, we all know that the PiS judges will do absolutely nothing but rule in accordance with what PiS want.
You are guessing what we know is that PO judges have been doing that for years as well including breaking law.
Ironside
16 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
edited told you Petru stands for nonsense.
Use proper names please
Do you have a vested interest in supporting destabilization of Poland? Need I remind you that Poland has democratically elected and therefore a legal government?
So what Petru stand for ?
edited told you Petru stands for nonsense.
Use proper names please
shady pseudo-nationalist power mad elite
Do you have a vested interest in supporting destabilization of Poland? Need I remind you that Poland has democratically elected and therefore a legal government?
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Do you have an obsession or just cannot help yourself? Do you suffer from a persecution complex?
I'm only expressing hope that they will do what they say they will do.
For you and you kind I picture the three-pronged hat with bells on the end all in vibrant red.
Another threat from Ironside?
Do you have an obsession or just cannot help yourself? Do you suffer from a persecution complex?
I'm only expressing hope that they will do what they say they will do.
Aren't upside-down red triangles traditional for our kind of Pole?
For you and you kind I picture the three-pronged hat with bells on the end all in vibrant red.
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Good, they should all sign it and put their addresses in as well, no need for proscription lists - they'll do it all themselves! Just lovely!
Thousands of citizens have said they aim to sue the leader of Poland's governing Law and Justice (PiS), after he called the party's opponents "Poles of the worst kind."
Good, they should all sign it and put their addresses in as well, no need for proscription lists - they'll do it all themselves! Just lovely!
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Nah, that is a lie!
You have being derailing this thread for the last 15 posts! you don't address issues either just playing a victim and skimming on the surface!
the polls are BS, that paper is heavily biased against PiS and is well know for publishing propaganda rather than facts and anybody with a working knowledge of the Polish language knows that!
Nah PO and their cronies and voters including their (banksters- sock puppet) sidekick Nowoczesna are kicking up that fuss! Nobody else!
In your imagination! Who was against PiS, still is nothing new there!
I see another defender of democracy! phew!
See, Ironside, again - you're not addressing the topic at all, but rather trying to derail it.
Nah, that is a lie!
You have being derailing this thread for the last 15 posts! you don't address issues either just playing a victim and skimming on the surface!
The poll results are clear
the polls are BS, that paper is heavily biased against PiS and is well know for publishing propaganda rather than facts and anybody with a working knowledge of the Polish language knows that!
Poles are annoyed with PiS and blame them for the problems with the TK.
Nah PO and their cronies and voters including their (banksters- sock puppet) sidekick Nowoczesna are kicking up that fuss! Nobody else!
Fortunately, opposition numbers are swelling.
In your imagination! Who was against PiS, still is nothing new there!
On the Brightside, at least with PIS winning the election, we don't have to worry about ISIS as the only terrorists in Poland is PIS...
I see another defender of democracy! phew!
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
For you anything you don't know how to counter is either threat or insult or both. There was a movie I don't remember much about but a certain character a boy who reacted much in the same way. If and when he was addressed, he would respond with - is that a threat? In the movie it was quite funny but in the real life debate it is tenuous, boring and off-topic. Only people without class and arguments would use such a childish tactics. .
Another fine example of insults
For you anything you don't know how to counter is either threat or insult or both. There was a movie I don't remember much about but a certain character a boy who reacted much in the same way. If and when he was addressed, he would respond with - is that a threat? In the movie it was quite funny but in the real life debate it is tenuous, boring and off-topic. Only people without class and arguments would use such a childish tactics. .
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]
No, Atch some people are just that sensitive on some issues which others find debatable or immaterial. It is more common that you may thunk.
That is a compliment for woman femininity and attractiveness, a something rather quite different to a vulgar catcalls. :)
I think you're being deliberately obtuse
No, Atch some people are just that sensitive on some issues which others find debatable or immaterial. It is more common that you may thunk.
Polish men lech over women quite a bit in my experience
That is a compliment for woman femininity and attractiveness, a something rather quite different to a vulgar catcalls. :)
Ironside
15 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
What ghosts? If you think that this conflict is about individuals or personalities you are wrong.
Yep, decades of black PR.
Hmm, by kicking up fuss about PO having majority in the constitutional court and wanting even greater majority?
Is that all about it? In that case people are confusing PO with PiS otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Bhahaha! Delph go west!
You could go and ask for polls to The Völkischer Beobachter !
Poland will never be at peace until these ghosts are gone
What ghosts? If you think that this conflict is about individuals or personalities you are wrong.
Everyone except hardcore PiS fans is utterly sick of the sight of Jarek and his ilk.
Yep, decades of black PR.
but their post-election behaviour is worrying those who fear for Poland's young and fragile democracy.
Hmm, by kicking up fuss about PO having majority in the constitutional court and wanting even greater majority?
Is that all about it? In that case people are confusing PO with PiS otherwise it doesn't make sense.
wyborcza.pl
Bhahaha! Delph go west!
You could go and ask for polls to The Völkischer Beobachter !
Ironside
14 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Stop spamming this thread.
still spamming I see, never expected anything else from the likes of you,
No,
Stop spamming this thread.
still spamming I see, never expected anything else from the likes of you,
Ironside
14 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
You can all argue to and fro to the end of time.
Facts are as follow:
PiS own fair and square a democratic election. A month hasn't passed as yet when opposition and losers kicked up a hysterical campaign to blacken and besmirch winners. MP of opposition are making a spectacle out of themselves crying and winging and using utterly inappropriate slogans for an allegedly respectable and reasonable option they claim to be.
They claim to be defending democracy but as they are questioning results of the democratic election at the some time by taking supporters to the streets its doesn't make sense.
If something doesn't make sense it is more oft than not a lie.
As a pretexts they use the issue of the Constitutional Court where all pro and cons to the medium are obscure for the public and ambiguous. There is no clear cut right or wrong and the blame cannot be put squarely at the door of one party as some would want us to believe it.
Unsuspected reader consider this:
That Court consists of 15 judges, ten of them are PO (current opposition) nominees, only five are nominees of the current government.
Yes, opposition is kicking all that fuss and getting hysterical and unbalanced because they have majority in the Constitutional Court.
What they want?
They want three more judges to have them more(sic?) or greater majority in the Court.
What it has to do with democracy I don't know and those kicking up that conflict don't know it either. Does it make a sense t o you?
Makes no sense to me!
I suspect that opposition is unable to reconcile with the fact they have lost an election and are reading a ground to attempt a coup or at least are trying to force an early election as if that would to them any good.
Posing as a defenders those people are the worst threat to the democracy in Poland there is.
You can all argue to and fro to the end of time.
Facts are as follow:
PiS own fair and square a democratic election. A month hasn't passed as yet when opposition and losers kicked up a hysterical campaign to blacken and besmirch winners. MP of opposition are making a spectacle out of themselves crying and winging and using utterly inappropriate slogans for an allegedly respectable and reasonable option they claim to be.
They claim to be defending democracy but as they are questioning results of the democratic election at the some time by taking supporters to the streets its doesn't make sense.
If something doesn't make sense it is more oft than not a lie.
As a pretexts they use the issue of the Constitutional Court where all pro and cons to the medium are obscure for the public and ambiguous. There is no clear cut right or wrong and the blame cannot be put squarely at the door of one party as some would want us to believe it.
Unsuspected reader consider this:
That Court consists of 15 judges, ten of them are PO (current opposition) nominees, only five are nominees of the current government.
Yes, opposition is kicking all that fuss and getting hysterical and unbalanced because they have majority in the Constitutional Court.
What they want?
They want three more judges to have them more(sic?) or greater majority in the Court.
What it has to do with democracy I don't know and those kicking up that conflict don't know it either. Does it make a sense t o you?
Makes no sense to me!
I suspect that opposition is unable to reconcile with the fact they have lost an election and are reading a ground to attempt a coup or at least are trying to force an early election as if that would to them any good.
Posing as a defenders those people are the worst threat to the democracy in Poland there is.
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Is that the same website that miraculously disappeared for days to reappear with a new content?
You can see for yourself on the TK website
Is that the same website that miraculously disappeared for days to reappear with a new content?
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
So because PO have only 10 judges out of 15 in the TK they claim it is the end of the world. What would they say if those proportions wasn't in their favor? Implode?
As much classy and informative and as much valid as posting your picture next to a picture of a known child abuser and saying look at the similarities.
So because PO have only 10 judges out of 15 in the TK they claim it is the end of the world. What would they say if those proportions wasn't in their favor? Implode?
An absolutely beautiful comparison made today
As much classy and informative and as much valid as posting your picture next to a picture of a known child abuser and saying look at the similarities.
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Yes an utter usual tripe on your part - an example :
By the way that is something what an radical leftie extremist would say. :)
Yes because your word holds more sway than an official report of the police monitoring both events.
Off topic or as your friend Harry says ad hominem trolling.
Delph who translated those words for you? Poorly done.
He meant that if somebody is compering JK to Jaruzleski it is an utter disgrace that there are such a people who make comparison like that. He got a point.
Usual nonsense, Ironside?
Yes an utter usual tripe on your part - an example :
the number of the fascist
By the way that is something what an radical leftie extremist would say. :)
The numbers are straightforward, yesterday's demonstration got three times
Yes because your word holds more sway than an official report of the police monitoring both events.
Unless of course you were on one of your extremely rare visits to Poland and counted them...
Off topic or as your friend Harry says ad hominem trolling.
These words were uttered by Kornel Morawiecki from Kukiz'15.
Delph who translated those words for you? Poorly done.
He meant that if somebody is compering JK to Jaruzleski it is an utter disgrace that there are such a people who make comparison like that. He got a point.
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Nope 30, 000 :
Yesterday there was 15, 000 max.
What, the 15,000?
Nope 30, 000 :
Yesterday there was 15, 000 max.
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
About the fact that three members of the TK took an active part in writing that July bill.
They can strike down themselves then!
They cannot rule in their own case, that a basic rule of any civilized legal system.
Let them stay there! Soon they will annoy normal people who are demonstrating today.
What rule of law? That is politics the law is for people not people for the law, it is all democracy in making, evidently TK in the current shape and form is not longer feasible.
Don't need your hysterical laugh here delp, calm down.
What threats>? You are the one making threats on line, no me! Don't measure others by your own yard stick delph, or is that your paranoia kicked in again?
What are you talking about?
About the fact that three members of the TK took an active part in writing that July bill.
The job is to strike down the unconstitutional parts of laws
They can strike down themselves then!
They have not been elected legally, as the Constitutional Tribunal ruled
They cannot rule in their own case, that a basic rule of any civilized legal system.
the more people will be on the streets.
Let them stay there! Soon they will annoy normal people who are demonstrating today.
the rule of law.
What rule of law? That is politics the law is for people not people for the law, it is all democracy in making, evidently TK in the current shape and form is not longer feasible.
Hahahahaha.
Don't need your hysterical laugh here delp, calm down.
More threats
What threats>? You are the one making threats on line, no me! Don't measure others by your own yard stick delph, or is that your paranoia kicked in again?
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
They weren't legitimately appointed as by ruling of the same TK, the ruling that a bill is partially OK and partially not OK is a nonsense as saying that somebody is partially pregnant.
Anyway three judges should resin now and make a space for those three newly appointed ones if they are such a sticklers for the law? After all those three TK judges took active part in writing what is now recognized by themselves as unconstitutional.
Those have been elected legally, no reason for them to be culled, nor legal precedence or procedures to do so.
There are no bridges to burn, all are burned down.
They can get their mugs beaten up by the annoyed supporters of the current government if they will get fed up with the establishment brass kicking up the fuss and hysteria.
That Sir is a bare assed lie!
I'd settle for publication of the TK rulings and accepting the oaths of the three judges legitimately appointed by PO
They weren't legitimately appointed as by ruling of the same TK, the ruling that a bill is partially OK and partially not OK is a nonsense as saying that somebody is partially pregnant.
Anyway three judges should resin now and make a space for those three newly appointed ones if they are such a sticklers for the law? After all those three TK judges took active part in writing what is now recognized by themselves as unconstitutional.
as well as the first two of the five selected by PiS, that is the first two whose oaths he accpeted).
Those have been elected legally, no reason for them to be culled, nor legal precedence or procedures to do so.
No, but the longer the PiS government continues to flout the law with impunity the more bridges it is burning.
There are no bridges to burn, all are burned down.
Well if PiS unleashes force against peaceful protesters
They can get their mugs beaten up by the annoyed supporters of the current government if they will get fed up with the establishment brass kicking up the fuss and hysteria.
PiS is the driver of the current deepening divide
That Sir is a bare assed lie!
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
What about foreigners who anonymously attack the legitimacy of the Polish government? Don't have a problem with that?
Foreigners who anonymously attack the legitimacy
What about foreigners who anonymously attack the legitimacy of the Polish government? Don't have a problem with that?
Ironside
13 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
What? What are you even talking about? I hate those "people" for a number of reasons you seemingly cannot grasp. As I said Delph it is not your fight.
You are astubborn nerd I have no reason to lie about it. I'm not as I said I support RN.
Ironside, why are you using such language? What scares you so much?
What? What are you even talking about? I hate those "people" for a number of reasons you seemingly cannot grasp. As I said Delph it is not your fight.
I know you're a diehard PiS supporter
You are astubborn nerd I have no reason to lie about it. I'm not as I said I support RN.