Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
I said nothing like that, and it didn't.
I-S ( books M-G?)
Um... But it happened...
I said nothing like that, and it didn't.
I-S ( books M-G?)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
WHO was Polish ?
Most of the government members were some soviets creatures about whom nobody hear before, anyhow any real Pole taking part in soviet apparatus was traitor, so yes the authorities could be from Mars!
Ask why in the pre-war Poland with so many Jews and tension, nothing like that ever happened ?Maybe because in charge were Polish authorities?eh?
Secondly, timing of that event was nicely set to make Poles look like German accomplices in the eyes of the world.
Next, place - why Kielce not other town left in good state ? Where the independent forces were strongest at the time, where national movement were strong as well ? ?
I-S(to remember the fallen is not to remember how they fell but to remember why and for what)
communist authorities were Polish, not from Mars.
WHO was Polish ?
Most of the government members were some soviets creatures about whom nobody hear before, anyhow any real Pole taking part in soviet apparatus was traitor, so yes the authorities could be from Mars!
Ask why in the pre-war Poland with so many Jews and tension, nothing like that ever happened ?Maybe because in charge were Polish authorities?eh?
Secondly, timing of that event was nicely set to make Poles look like German accomplices in the eyes of the world.
Next, place - why Kielce not other town left in good state ? Where the independent forces were strongest at the time, where national movement were strong as well ? ?
I-S(to remember the fallen is not to remember how they fell but to remember why and for what)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
why?
to show to Germans - hey we are not Poles and we have no part in your quarrel with them!
Because most of them spoke german dialect as their first language (sometimes it was they only language).
Well, evidently not!
I-S ( still waiting for promised books;just dance away, dance in trance, just dance away the whole damn day)
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quote=Paulina]it's a historic fact, you know?[/quote]
and that differs from the fact - how?
Was she Jewish ?If not I'm afraid that as a witness she would be useless (according to M-G law)
I-S ( well, I don't know enough about it yet, I have some reasonable and sensible doubts about it)
First off, I find that a bit hard to believe,
why?
Just why would they do that?
to show to Germans - hey we are not Poles and we have no part in your quarrel with them!
Because they were treated so nicely in Poland?
Because most of them spoke german dialect as their first language (sometimes it was they only language).
all Jews knew what Hitler stood for.
Well, evidently not!
I-S ( still waiting for promised books;just dance away, dance in trance, just dance away the whole damn day)
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quote=Paulina]it's a historic fact, you know?[/quote]
and that differs from the fact - how?
Mother of my university professor was a witness of what happened at that time.
Was she Jewish ?If not I'm afraid that as a witness she would be useless (according to M-G law)
I-S ( well, I don't know enough about it yet, I have some reasonable and sensible doubts about it)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
gee!? don't say !
it appealed more to unskilled workers and lumps also to de-classed nobles and intelligentsia!
Honest hard working people were Church going material
They are talking about 1939 when joint Soviet-Nazi forces attacked Poland, Germans started exterminate Jews in 1941! Also some Jews welcomed German forces in 1939 too!
I'm sure that you were present at the time of the invent and knew some who did it!
I-S (Dance my little puppets, dance for me, dance my little puppets and you shall see!)
but considering the discrimination of Jews,
gee!? don't say !
It also appealed more to peasants and workers than, for example, nobility.
it appealed more to unskilled workers and lumps also to de-classed nobles and intelligentsia!
Honest hard working people were Church going material
The Soviets defeated the Nazis who wanted to kill all the Jews so it would be natural to welcome the Soviets.
They are talking about 1939 when joint Soviet-Nazi forces attacked Poland, Germans started exterminate Jews in 1941! Also some Jews welcomed German forces in 1939 too!
The fact is that pogrom in Kielce was carried out by Poles. There's no doubt about it. I was born and live in Kielce so I know better than any of you LOL
I'm sure that you were present at the time of the invent and knew some who did it!
I-S (Dance my little puppets, dance for me, dance my little puppets and you shall see!)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
How so? First of all it an Internet and he could be anybody, secondly even if he is polish what he says proof nothing, and particularly proof nothing in regard to Kielce event.
Hey if you are Pole, shut your mug idiot and cut off hysteria !
Hullo there humble guy:D
I-S(War of the worlds,worlds,so many worlds..)
But you keep on proving that I am right,
How so? First of all it an Internet and he could be anybody, secondly even if he is polish what he says proof nothing, and particularly proof nothing in regard to Kielce event.
Sucky the same idiot is finding a tiniest scratch in a history
Hey if you are Pole, shut your mug idiot and cut off hysteria !
The rest of the world.
Hullo there humble guy:D
I-S(War of the worlds,worlds,so many worlds..)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
Po polsku / Pomnik ku czci bolszewików? [26]
Hej panowie ! Jesteście dorośli i jak macie problem to może rozwiążcie go w zaciszu prywatności, takie wyzywanie się na forum nie prowadzi do niczego dobrego.
Jeśli to ma być pomnik to jestem przeciw, bo jak znam Rosjan to zapłaci za to polski podatnik a na dodatek za utrzymanie i konserwacje będzie płacił przez lata, jak im tak zależy to niech ekshumują szczątki i zabiorą do Moskwy, gdzie mogą ich godnie uczcić!
I-S (rzekłem!)
Hej panowie ! Jesteście dorośli i jak macie problem to może rozwiążcie go w zaciszu prywatności, takie wyzywanie się na forum nie prowadzi do niczego dobrego.
Jeśli to ma być pomnik to jestem przeciw, bo jak znam Rosjan to zapłaci za to polski podatnik a na dodatek za utrzymanie i konserwacje będzie płacił przez lata, jak im tak zależy to niech ekshumują szczątki i zabiorą do Moskwy, gdzie mogą ich godnie uczcić!
I-S (rzekłem!)
Ironside
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
I fail to see difference during or after, I would think that after the WWII people were more prone to violence.
Well, I understand significance of the Kielce incident for forming image of Poles as being anti-semite in the eyes of the western world.
What I question is the validity of such qualification based on one incident in given circumstances you seems to ignore completely and which I stated before in my previous posts above.
One thing newspapers and public opinion something else historians and professionals.
So, what - Poles or not Poles it make no difference in circumstances I have described.
No, the question is whether or not this incident wasn't orchestrated by Soviet GRU or NKVD, such action, provocation, assassination were done before, during and after WWII - there was nobody better than Soviet secret services.
Who gained from Kielce accident? Soviets!
It actually reminded me some move or book about case in court where false witness were nailed by defence lawyer and the line was more or less - you were wrong about time, place, many details, the order of invents, about what happened but about one and only one fact you are certain from the beginning that it was accused who did it !
Don't take me wrong, I don't say you are false but did you for a moment thought that your view of the Kielce incident could be not quite ....as it really happened?
I mean you are so sure....Why?
I'm waiting for materials you promised!
I-S (Over hill, over dale,Thorough bush, thorough brier,Over park, over pale,Thorough flood, thorough fire, I do wander everywhere.)
The difference between this and the Kielce pogrom was that the Kielce pogrom took place AFTER WW2.
I fail to see difference during or after, I would think that after the WWII people were more prone to violence.
And if this isn't clear enough as to why the Kielce incident was so important in the image forming of the European about Poles as being anti semite, then I give up. I cannot make it much clearer.
Well, I understand significance of the Kielce incident for forming image of Poles as being anti-semite in the eyes of the western world.
What I question is the validity of such qualification based on one incident in given circumstances you seems to ignore completely and which I stated before in my previous posts above.
One thing newspapers and public opinion something else historians and professionals.
Perhaps; but they were still Poles.
So, what - Poles or not Poles it make no difference in circumstances I have described.
And the question whether or not this incident was used by the Soviets in order to give Poland a bad name abroad, is not really relevant in this respect.
No, the question is whether or not this incident wasn't orchestrated by Soviet GRU or NKVD, such action, provocation, assassination were done before, during and after WWII - there was nobody better than Soviet secret services.
Who gained from Kielce accident? Soviets!
I didn't describe the events as such, I described the perpetrators. And like I said it were Poles that committed them.
It actually reminded me some move or book about case in court where false witness were nailed by defence lawyer and the line was more or less - you were wrong about time, place, many details, the order of invents, about what happened but about one and only one fact you are certain from the beginning that it was accused who did it !
Don't take me wrong, I don't say you are false but did you for a moment thought that your view of the Kielce incident could be not quite ....as it really happened?
I mean you are so sure....Why?
I'm waiting for materials you promised!
I-S (Over hill, over dale,Thorough bush, thorough brier,Over park, over pale,Thorough flood, thorough fire, I do wander everywhere.)
Ironside
18 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Possibly, let assume for a moment that everything you claim to have happened and the way it happened is true.
Still, it would be a deed committed by individuals Poles, not Polish state, nor independent Poland institutions. So, I fail to see the significance of Kielce as a proof of anti-semitsm, its more likely proof that some demoralised elements of society were capable of committing a crime. Well, the same could be said about every country but no country is judged by its criminals.
What if NL was being judged by its SS Division?
Exactly, who would gain to give Poland such a reputation ?Soviets!
Who was really in charge in Poland? (regardless that individuals Poles,were in soviet ranks)
Who is responsible?
Soviets!
Do you see logical chain of thought here?
One, more thing - Poles in soviet ranks were traitors!
You do not seriously expect me to take responsibility for criminals and traitors?Nor for action of government in Poland in 1946 - soviet tool and puppet !
By all means give me tips for good material, I think that I should gain as much knowledge as I can about Kielce incident.
There's a crisis in the kitchen
But that don't stop you ***********; - you're a bastard troll!
I-S (well)
Previously mentioned Kielce incident, for example, was committed by Poles. Be they Communists, Catholics, Anarchists or Hopsasasa Polka Dancers, it doesn't matter.
Possibly, let assume for a moment that everything you claim to have happened and the way it happened is true.
Still, it would be a deed committed by individuals Poles, not Polish state, nor independent Poland institutions. So, I fail to see the significance of Kielce as a proof of anti-semitsm, its more likely proof that some demoralised elements of society were capable of committing a crime. Well, the same could be said about every country but no country is judged by its criminals.
What if NL was being judged by its SS Division?
Exactly, who would gain to give Poland such a reputation ?Soviets!
Who was really in charge in Poland? (regardless that individuals Poles,were in soviet ranks)
Who is responsible?
Soviets!
Do you see logical chain of thought here?
One, more thing - Poles in soviet ranks were traitors!
You do not seriously expect me to take responsibility for criminals and traitors?Nor for action of government in Poland in 1946 - soviet tool and puppet !
If you want me to, I can give you tips for good material, just ask.
By all means give me tips for good material, I think that I should gain as much knowledge as I can about Kielce incident.
there
There's a crisis in the kitchen
But that don't stop you ***********; - you're a bastard troll!
I-S (well)
Ironside
17 Aug 2010
Po polsku / Pomnik ku czci bolszewików? [26]
Aby upamiętnić wszystkich wrogów, którzy użyźniają Polska ziemie to miejsca by nie starczyło!
Aby upamiętnić wszystkich wrogów, którzy użyźniają Polska ziemie to miejsca by nie starczyło!
Ironside
17 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
One more issue thought, for a change try to refer to my arguments and points as I do regarding to your arguments.
You on the other hand mostly concentrate about how I'm stubborn and incurable poor bastard - instead try to argue for a change?
I-S( Then soon with the emblem of truth overflowing,And dripping with reason, He rose from the depth.Where for time too long to remember, Was resting on canopy woven from His dreams.)
M-G (tiens)
One more issue thought, for a change try to refer to my arguments and points as I do regarding to your arguments.
You on the other hand mostly concentrate about how I'm stubborn and incurable poor bastard - instead try to argue for a change?
I-S( Then soon with the emblem of truth overflowing,And dripping with reason, He rose from the depth.Where for time too long to remember, Was resting on canopy woven from His dreams.)
Ironside
17 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Well, maybe read my post once more? I said let agree to disagree.
You are jumping from one point to the other without order.
As for CC history I'm not that interested, what I know comes from history books not concerted on Church history.
hey! you're doing the same - you say ping I say pong - say something else for a change!
What facts? I do not deny facts I do interpret my way! Why should I read them your way ? Give me a good answer. please!
I never did! Gee! you always accuses me of something I feel like accused sometimes- chill out! see the smiley after communist :) ?????
I Don't understand ! Are we discussing above?
Wouldn't be that a very superficial and general view of things?
Not really but he made few good points there!
I-S (good night! this time I'm going to sleep, I think you didn't read my previous post closely due to late hour, do it tomorrow)
Everything I say is dead wrong and you jump on your hind legs over it
Well, maybe read my post once more? I said let agree to disagree.
You are jumping from one point to the other without order.
As for CC history I'm not that interested, what I know comes from history books not concerted on Church history.
Every time, over and over again.
hey! you're doing the same - you say ping I say pong - say something else for a change!
This complete and utter denial of valid facts just gets on my nerves.
What facts? I do not deny facts I do interpret my way! Why should I read them your way ? Give me a good answer. please!
don't call me a Communist.
I never did! Gee! you always accuses me of something I feel like accused sometimes- chill out! see the smiley after communist :) ?????
concernng Holocaust and anti semitism published by the Simon Wiesenthal Institute and make notes
I Don't understand ! Are we discussing above?
That's how I do it and always have done it and it's probably the best way to come to true objective conclusions. You should try that too.
Wouldn't be that a very superficial and general view of things?
And I suppose you're a big fan of Norman Davies too?
Not really but he made few good points there!
I-S (good night! this time I'm going to sleep, I think you didn't read my previous post closely due to late hour, do it tomorrow)
Ironside
17 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
et
Really? Its a news to me, you first deploy torrent of slogans intertwined with few facts interpreted your way and then if somebody do not agree with you, you quickly get angry and annoyed and start sprouting nonsense and insults.
Let's agree to recognize that we have different view of the world and then exchange our arguments and views in peaceful manner.
There no need to overheat thyself, as a judge(we cannot trust our objectivity) I propose Sean S :)
Let the tournament commence !
Your claims to be proved yet!I'll enlighten you - your word is not an definite proof ending all discussion.
You rebuked me for using that word.
its BS for you!
that your opinion to which you are entitled thanks to CC in a way - however I say that you are biased and you cannot see above your bias and prejudices!
Notice that discussing with you I'm not using any religious arguments but only those I can logicically justify.On the other hand you are continuously using slogans and expressions one has to believe in without poof, that you take something for granted it doesn't mean I have to do the same.
To put it simple - your arguments are biased, emotional and demand acceptance of your values- on the other hand my arguments are based on logic and common sense.
Small type of great ones, that do hum
Within this whole world's narrow room,
......................................................Poor Fly, caught in an airy net,:)
I'm missing your point here, Communist ideology exists (you are one example of it:)), Communist country's exists as well (Cuba, Northern Korea), Communists do live still, they are in their 60 and 50ies - nothing vanished!
You perception is crooked I suppose from NL point of view Communists really vanished - I've thought that "historian" should know better!
How so? They could fight but choose to surrender.I fail to see that they were worse off than Poland. The Czechs regained their industry most of the citizens and all their land.
Whereas Poland ....do I have to spell it for you?
Really ? Who's army were in the town, in the country ? Who's was in charge?
I don't know who perpetrated the deed because it was soviets apparatus of terror and soviet propaganda tools - called by the silly little westerners - soviet juridical system, and they called the shots!
They could do anything, and blame anyone they choose!
Someone died! At the time in Poland many people died - some hunted in the woods , some tortured, humiliated and killed in the damp dark dungeons!
You said that Poles cannot do wrong - well Poles can do wrong and many Poles are rare bastards, some killed Jews!(gee?! shock!?,phew!)
However non Polish officer would ever order to kill innocent, unarmed bystanders and absolutely not if there were involved children - its absolutely out of the question!Nor would he stand aside without orders to do so! Who could give such orders?
Is not blindness, is intimate knowledge of Polish culture - and cultural code - you are doing a gross mistake, ignoring that!
About your remarks concerning CC:hahahahahaha....try maybe to read some serious historical stuff instead of rubbish booklets !!
I told you, you choose level of our discussion!
Don't you know about Islamic invasion against Christian Europe - Constantinople, France, Italy! ?Go and read!
Sean
Lock horns ? maybe, but I'm better then that :)
I-S (good night)
et
I have nothing against a good and thorough discussion
Really? Its a news to me, you first deploy torrent of slogans intertwined with few facts interpreted your way and then if somebody do not agree with you, you quickly get angry and annoyed and start sprouting nonsense and insults.
Let's agree to recognize that we have different view of the world and then exchange our arguments and views in peaceful manner.
There no need to overheat thyself, as a judge(we cannot trust our objectivity) I propose Sean S :)
Let the tournament commence !
Yet none of these belligerents have successfully rebuked any of my arguments so far.
Your claims to be proved yet!I'll enlighten you - your word is not an definite proof ending all discussion.
commies
You rebuked me for using that word.
Pro Catholic BS t
its BS for you!
an instution that's rotten to the core
that your opinion to which you are entitled thanks to CC in a way - however I say that you are biased and you cannot see above your bias and prejudices!
Notice that discussing with you I'm not using any religious arguments but only those I can logicically justify.On the other hand you are continuously using slogans and expressions one has to believe in without poof, that you take something for granted it doesn't mean I have to do the same.
To put it simple - your arguments are biased, emotional and demand acceptance of your values- on the other hand my arguments are based on logic and common sense.
Small type of great ones, that do hum
Within this whole world's narrow room,
......................................................Poor Fly, caught in an airy net,:)
- The Commies are gone. No need to keep going on about them. They left 20 years ago. That means they are gone, vanished, disappeared, finito, basta, NOT THERE ANYMORE.
I'm missing your point here, Communist ideology exists (you are one example of it:)), Communist country's exists as well (Cuba, Northern Korea), Communists do live still, they are in their 60 and 50ies - nothing vanished!
You perception is crooked I suppose from NL point of view Communists really vanished - I've thought that "historian" should know better!
The Czechs were even more screwed and betrayed by the West than you guys were.
How so? They could fight but choose to surrender.I fail to see that they were worse off than Poland. The Czechs regained their industry most of the citizens and all their land.
Whereas Poland ....do I have to spell it for you?
Actually the Commies weren't in power in Kielce in those days. As you may know or may deny, it was a Polish officer who made the decision NOT to stop the events during the incident. It were Polish citizens who perpetrated the deed; how on earth can you blame the Communists for this??
Really ? Who's army were in the town, in the country ? Who's was in charge?
I don't know who perpetrated the deed because it was soviets apparatus of terror and soviet propaganda tools - called by the silly little westerners - soviet juridical system, and they called the shots!
They could do anything, and blame anyone they choose!
Someone died! At the time in Poland many people died - some hunted in the woods , some tortured, humiliated and killed in the damp dark dungeons!
You said that Poles cannot do wrong - well Poles can do wrong and many Poles are rare bastards, some killed Jews!(gee?! shock!?,phew!)
However non Polish officer would ever order to kill innocent, unarmed bystanders and absolutely not if there were involved children - its absolutely out of the question!Nor would he stand aside without orders to do so! Who could give such orders?
Is not blindness, is intimate knowledge of Polish culture - and cultural code - you are doing a gross mistake, ignoring that!
About your remarks concerning religion: hahahahahahaha..
About your remarks concerning CC:hahahahahaha....try maybe to read some serious historical stuff instead of rubbish booklets !!
I told you, you choose level of our discussion!
Don't you know about Islamic invasion against Christian Europe - Constantinople, France, Italy! ?Go and read!
Sean
Lock horns ? maybe, but I'm better then that :)
I-S (good night)
Ironside
15 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
hey! communist had the same opinion like you about religion, that the fact!
Well, who was in charge then? Don't be daft you know that somebody who is in charge is responsible - somehow in the years 1921-1939 something like that never happened and there was about 3mln Jews and a lot of tension - then Poles were in charge!
Kielce - commies were in charge and their were responsible - face it like a man, don't be a *****!
What nasty business ?
But the only country attacked by joined Soviet-Nazi forces, only country being in Allies camp to the last day of the war, the only country who from brother in arms and formal allied power that was reduced to soviet slave with former allies looking other way.
what the **** are you about? Its my own original thought!
I disagree, that has nothing to do with religion but with social tension.
As for the rest I'm familiar with those "arguments", to be honest I'm really disappointed I thought you will do better then that!
Invasion in the name of religion Christian learned from Muslims and after years of abuse, raids and invasions - they let them test their own medicine.
As for abuse of power and all bad things in the Church is only human nature in action - but for one bad thing you could find hundreds good things - for shameful episode in CC history - 10 deed that one could be proud of !!
I-S (enough for today)
Stop dragging the commies into everything. You've had no Communism for about 20 years, time to call it quits blaming everything on them. It looks a bit childish and refusing to take responsibility for one's own deeds.
hey! communist had the same opinion like you about religion, that the fact!
Kielce? Communist did that.
Well, who was in charge then? Don't be daft you know that somebody who is in charge is responsible - somehow in the years 1921-1939 something like that never happened and there was about 3mln Jews and a lot of tension - then Poles were in charge!
Kielce - commies were in charge and their were responsible - face it like a man, don't be a *****!
Poles perpetrated nasty business between 1935-1939?
What nasty business ?
Poland is not the only country to be occupied by the commies,
But the only country attacked by joined Soviet-Nazi forces, only country being in Allies camp to the last day of the war, the only country who from brother in arms and formal allied power that was reduced to soviet slave with former allies looking other way.
You should go work for Xerox. They make excellent copiers.
what the **** are you about? Its my own original thought!
If you have spiritual needs blahananahaha
On the side it has created wars, quests for power
I disagree, that has nothing to do with religion but with social tension.
Wherever Christians took over the role of the existing religion (without asking the natives whether they agreed or not) tolerance made way for intoleranc
As for the rest I'm familiar with those "arguments", to be honest I'm really disappointed I thought you will do better then that!
Invasion in the name of religion Christian learned from Muslims and after years of abuse, raids and invasions - they let them test their own medicine.
As for abuse of power and all bad things in the Church is only human nature in action - but for one bad thing you could find hundreds good things - for shameful episode in CC history - 10 deed that one could be proud of !!
I-S (enough for today)
Ironside
14 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Who does? I would like to point to you a little fact which seems to have escaped your attention - that very forum is dedicated to Poland.
Its very enigmatic, in response:
1. Number of accusation , slagging and lies, not to mention mockery on this very forum it is unreal, so some people react stronger that would have otherwise.
2. I happened to hear English saying that they made America!
Well, I don't claim it either, but there some Britons on this forum to whom it did happen few times:)
well i do hope not, i don't speak about England or Scotland like they are the centre of the earth,
Who does? I would like to point to you a little fact which seems to have escaped your attention - that very forum is dedicated to Poland.
also don't try and convince people England or Scotland is repsonsible for things they are not
Its very enigmatic, in response:
1. Number of accusation , slagging and lies, not to mention mockery on this very forum it is unreal, so some people react stronger that would have otherwise.
2. I happened to hear English saying that they made America!
I know the sun does not shine out of the backside of either country and i don't kid myslef or anyone else for that matter.
Well, I don't claim it either, but there some Britons on this forum to whom it did happen few times:)
Ironside
14 Aug 2010
Ironside
11 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Like Communists?
I have come to the conclusion that spiritual need is one of the elements which consist full human being and therefore religion is needed.
You blame religion for society errors - however is goes deeper than that and religion is not to blame:)
therefore I've come to the conclusion that religion doesn't offer any substantial to mankind and shouldn't have a place in 21st century society anymore.
Like Communists?
I have come to the conclusion that spiritual need is one of the elements which consist full human being and therefore religion is needed.
You blame religion for society errors - however is goes deeper than that and religion is not to blame:)
Ironside
9 Aug 2010
Off-Topic / Are Polish Christians here? [141]
really ? I want to sue you ? pm me your details !
sure!
because everybody in Poland steals
really ? I want to sue you ? pm me your details !
sure!
Ironside
9 Aug 2010
Love / Are all beautiful Polish girls as crazy as this? [262]
Conclusion :
all Polish girls are beatify crazy
or crazily beautiful
or are you all crazy
or are you all beatify crazy!
I-S (enough of this nonsense crazy people, get a medical help)
Conclusion :
all Polish girls are beatify crazy
or crazily beautiful
or are you all crazy
or are you all beatify crazy!
I-S (enough of this nonsense crazy people, get a medical help)
Ironside
9 Aug 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [289]
Oh shut up:) if not for Poles you would live in one of 27 or so Germanic states!
Well, since only your view is right one ...
Oh shut up:) if not for Poles you would live in one of 27 or so Germanic states!
semantics are not silly, I could have said that about your test, but I wanted to pointed out that, besides being a fallacy, you only wanted to discuss the issue from one point of view.
Well, since only your view is right one ...
Ironside
9 Aug 2010
Life / Polish authors, books & literature. [95]
Great writer , extremely interesting life, I really urge to read his books - some of them are available in English!
Sergiusz Piasecki (1901–1964), was one of the most renowned Polish language writers of the 20th century. His most famous work, Kochanek Wielkiej Niedzwiedzicy (The lover of Ursa Major), published in 1937, was the third most popular book of the inter-bellum Poland. After World War II , Piasecki's books were banned by the communist government of Poland.
Great writer , extremely interesting life, I really urge to read his books - some of them are available in English!
Sergiusz Piasecki (1901–1964), was one of the most renowned Polish language writers of the 20th century. His most famous work, Kochanek Wielkiej Niedzwiedzicy (The lover of Ursa Major), published in 1937, was the third most popular book of the inter-bellum Poland. After World War II , Piasecki's books were banned by the communist government of Poland.
Ironside
9 Aug 2010
Life / Polish authors, books & literature. [95]
Let's have a discussion about books and authors - not only Polish but any you deem worthy.
Włodzimierz Odojewski
Odojewski's prose is rooted in the literary tradition of existential inquiry. It is characterised by an obsession with time, memory, and the inevitable coming of disaster and catastrophe. The world in which Odojewski's characters find themselves is a mythical one, a world of great passions, where values undergo continuous erosion. The distinguishing feature of Odojewski's writing is his mastery of the literary craft. The author does not hesitate to experiment with Faulkner's internal monologue, with Joyce's explorations in the world of literary form and with the techniques employed in the French nouveau roman.
"My aim has been to show in my short stories and novels a world that has passed by, so that it does not fade from our memories as well. Thus I have summoned up a past full of human emotions, human suffering, fear, love and hatred, but a past rooted in historical fact as well." (W. Odojewski)
Let's have a discussion about books and authors - not only Polish but any you deem worthy.
Włodzimierz Odojewski
Odojewski's prose is rooted in the literary tradition of existential inquiry. It is characterised by an obsession with time, memory, and the inevitable coming of disaster and catastrophe. The world in which Odojewski's characters find themselves is a mythical one, a world of great passions, where values undergo continuous erosion. The distinguishing feature of Odojewski's writing is his mastery of the literary craft. The author does not hesitate to experiment with Faulkner's internal monologue, with Joyce's explorations in the world of literary form and with the techniques employed in the French nouveau roman.
"My aim has been to show in my short stories and novels a world that has passed by, so that it does not fade from our memories as well. Thus I have summoned up a past full of human emotions, human suffering, fear, love and hatred, but a past rooted in historical fact as well." (W. Odojewski)
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
What the heck are you talking about ? You are some kind of retard are you ?
really, any prove to support your claims ?
What your point anyway? Ah! I checked your profile - company Troll&Troll - so what your recent screen name trollop ?
I-S (troll on the roll )
Does not that hurt a rabid antisemite as you?
What the heck are you talking about ? You are some kind of retard are you ?
our adored Polish Blue Police was selling their Jewish compatriots to the Germans wholesale, and making a profit out of it as well.
really, any prove to support your claims ?
What your point anyway? Ah! I checked your profile - company Troll&Troll - so what your recent screen name trollop ?
I-S (troll on the roll )
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
really!
Yeah! Within the borders from 1772.
Dmowski i Hess? Do understand what you read?
No, you don't !
It BS you cannot like country, people, individuals you have met ...that more like it!
This question about county's like -dislike is all about public imagination :)
Really?
really!
The Marshal was all in favour of the old Commonwealth...the emancipation of the minorities.
Yeah! Within the borders from 1772.
Dmowski would be proud of you. Hoess also.
Dmowski i Hess? Do understand what you read?
I think.
No, you don't !
Ask any Pole which of his/her neighbours he likes
It BS you cannot like country, people, individuals you have met ...that more like it!
This question about county's like -dislike is all about public imagination :)
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
Life / POLISH MYTHS - let's debunk or prove them! [140]
knock you 2 times ?:P
yeas. we knock it 2 times
knock you 2 times ?:P
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
Love / Are all beautiful Polish girls as crazy as this? [262]
have you considered that maybe she is not what you are after in relationship and her being beautiful only add to your confusion?
Maybe her emotional outburst are means to get from you honest response - maybe she is i sensing your reservations, you are not even aware of ?
That was a long,
have you considered that maybe she is not what you are after in relationship and her being beautiful only add to your confusion?
Maybe her emotional outburst are means to get from you honest response - maybe she is i sensing your reservations, you are not even aware of ?
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
Life / POLISH MYTHS - let's debunk or prove them! [140]
myths are myths, every country has its myths ...
you mean touch the wood?
myths are myths, every country has its myths ...
you mean touch the wood?
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
I'm sure that both would be relived that such people like myself still exist.
What reputation? Are you really Belgian ?
Well, for once people like you should think about your own reputation.
I think the Old Marshal would spit in your face and Dmowski would be proud of you. Cold Lech as well I think.
I'm sure that both would be relived that such people like myself still exist.
As the cross aliens and the PIS electorate and Polska B - all the same - you all should be proud of the reputation you are giving this country.
What reputation? Are you really Belgian ?
Well, for once people like you should think about your own reputation.
Ironside
8 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Don't expect an answer M-G says that is not the same - and you should take his word for this - because he says so!
sobieski
no, arguments...:D do you think you could make me tic when I know what a moron you are ?
A question for M-G:
Don't expect an answer M-G says that is not the same - and you should take his word for this - because he says so!
sobieski
no, arguments...:D do you think you could make me tic when I know what a moron you are ?