Ironside
12 Jan 2016
News / PiS and Russian political/economic interests [70]
That phrase describe our PF duo to the T.
Ridiculous beyond any limits.
That phrase describe our PF duo to the T.
Ironside
10 Jan 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Some people are coming here to debate issues as it is a prefect opportunity to do so on this forum but some people unfortunately come here to play games and propaganda. Delph belongs to the later group.
There seemingly three groups of foreigners on this forum.
The first group has no clue what is going on in Poland due to the poor language skills and limited numbers of people they really interact with. Hence their comments in this section of the forum are pathetically wide off mark.
The second group of foreigners are either looking at PiS through a very narrow lenses of their ideological bias or/and those who somehow identified PO with liberal, leftie, progressive party (for some bizarre reason) and are viewing PiS as a nemesis set against those "values".
Hence they miss what really going on in Poland and they focus on this issues which in fact are only sideshow or byproduct of circumstances.
The third group is somewhat confused as to goings in the Polish politicks and their views vary from one individual to another.
Of course Mr Oracle doesn't care for realities and circumstances of the Polish politicks, he is only playing and having fun - as they say the play is the thing.
Your demagoguery has not limits. Fortunately nobody is buying it.
Some people are coming here to debate issues as it is a prefect opportunity to do so on this forum but some people unfortunately come here to play games and propaganda. Delph belongs to the later group.
There seemingly three groups of foreigners on this forum.
The first group has no clue what is going on in Poland due to the poor language skills and limited numbers of people they really interact with. Hence their comments in this section of the forum are pathetically wide off mark.
The second group of foreigners are either looking at PiS through a very narrow lenses of their ideological bias or/and those who somehow identified PO with liberal, leftie, progressive party (for some bizarre reason) and are viewing PiS as a nemesis set against those "values".
Hence they miss what really going on in Poland and they focus on this issues which in fact are only sideshow or byproduct of circumstances.
The third group is somewhat confused as to goings in the Polish politicks and their views vary from one individual to another.
Of course Mr Oracle doesn't care for realities and circumstances of the Polish politicks, he is only playing and having fun - as they say the play is the thing.
Ironside
8 Jan 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Actually he sorta get it. You on the other hand seems to be as dense as hardtack.
The crux of the matter here is not in phrases they used but in their meaning and general context. If words or a phrase describe reality accurately that in itself is a sufficient justification to use it. The only problem here is in your head not in the phrase.
You are in a big trouble since you learned how to talk.
The guy is obviously one of Cameron's goons, and has had one too many bottles of plonk.
Actually he sorta get it. You on the other hand seems to be as dense as hardtack.
The problem with "Good Evening" is that everybody used that in the times of general Jaruzelski, whereas the phrase "conspiring with outside forces"
The crux of the matter here is not in phrases they used but in their meaning and general context. If words or a phrase describe reality accurately that in itself is a sufficient justification to use it. The only problem here is in your head not in the phrase.
And they're in trouble. Big trouble.
You are in a big trouble since you learned how to talk.
Ironside
7 Jan 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
In the times of Jaruzelski even more often phrase you could hear everyday and in his speeches on TV was Good Evening. According to your logic anyone who uses that phrase today must be a crypto-communist another phrase which sounds very outlandish and have a smell of another conspiracy theory.
That is not communist rhetoric it is rather communist regime that used national and state rhetoric to their own ends.
Hallelujah!:)
Are you an expert or just another horse-blinkered as....le taking side in a political dispute.
Do we have to read your mental shingles here? On the other hand it is not surprising that you're attracted to scum.
All too often this phrase could be heard in the times of general Wojciech Jaruzelski.
In the times of Jaruzelski even more often phrase you could hear everyday and in his speeches on TV was Good Evening. According to your logic anyone who uses that phrase today must be a crypto-communist another phrase which sounds very outlandish and have a smell of another conspiracy theory.
I think that using the rhetoric of the communists in this dispute is utterly wrong.
That is not communist rhetoric it is rather communist regime that used national and state rhetoric to their own ends.
I'll tell you why: becuase they are all biased, horse-blinkered, rabble-rousing a*seholes, that's why!
Hallelujah!:)
And the approach needed now is for PiS to break the law
Are you an expert or just another horse-blinkered as....le taking side in a political dispute.
Excellent column by Tomasz Lis.
Do we have to read your mental shingles here? On the other hand it is not surprising that you're attracted to scum.
Ironside
2 Jan 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
The fact she was critic of PO doesn't make her supporter of PiS. She is simply a theoretician who doesn't understand implication of circumstances and realities at the ground do in practical politick.
Make no difference another card to be played in that propaganda war waged between the system and PiS.
A longtime staunch supporter of PiS (and very outspoken critic of PO)
The fact she was critic of PO doesn't make her supporter of PiS. She is simply a theoretician who doesn't understand implication of circumstances and realities at the ground do in practical politick.
Make no difference another card to be played in that propaganda war waged between the system and PiS.
Ironside
31 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Lustration doesn't equal removal of ex-PZPR men or women from public life and never was. Ten years ago PO were on their hills with their political platform at the time.
the CT is not a Pope and if they break the law or overstep their authority there is rule of law to rain them in.
Transparency mean being clear and public about past assassins of people appointed to a public office.
Well you can assume whatever you want, I could even say that they should be jailed. However your assumptions and my wishes have nothing to do with the PiS political platform or their policy.
Hmm, I could well expected to you your come-back would an utter tripe.
the Delphian Domine can I call you Oracle? I think O is shorter and more to the point.
Are you trying to seriously suggest that PiS didn't make a huge deal out of demanding lustration and the removal of ex-PZPR men from public life?
Lustration doesn't equal removal of ex-PZPR men or women from public life and never was. Ten years ago PO were on their hills with their political platform at the time.
But given that PiS have completely chosen to ignore the rulings of the Constitutional Tribunal,
the CT is not a Pope and if they break the law or overstep their authority there is rule of law to rain them in.
why have they appointed an ex-PZPR
Transparency mean being clear and public about past assassins of people appointed to a public office.
So one would assume that prosecutors in those times who actively took part in the prosecution of the opposition should be excluded from public life, as should former high ranking members of the Milicja.
Well you can assume whatever you want, I could even say that they should be jailed. However your assumptions and my wishes have nothing to do with the PiS political platform or their policy.
Ironside, try as you might, you can't get away from the fact that PiS are very much PZPR-bis.
Hmm, I could well expected to you your come-back would an utter tripe.
the Delphian Domine can I call you Oracle? I think O is shorter and more to the point.
Ironside
31 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
When did PiS run on such a platform?
You are talking about rule of law as if there were not rule of law in Poland. You are repeating some PO propaganda like an automaton without mind of his own.
Nah they championed transparencyin public life you i....! - meaning all people wanted to step out onto the policies scene should be screened and clear about their past and their past associations.
Mainly it is about the secret commie police or being a snitch for the commie regime.
They never claimed that all rank and file of the former PZPR members should be excluded from holding of public offices.
When did PO run on a platform of ridding former commies from public life?
When did PiS run on such a platform?
He doesn't care about rule of law,
You are talking about rule of law as if there were not rule of law in Poland. You are repeating some PO propaganda like an automaton without mind of his own.
PiS claimed to be anti-communist. They lied.
Nah they championed transparencyin public life you i....! - meaning all people wanted to step out onto the policies scene should be screened and clear about their past and their past associations.
Mainly it is about the secret commie police or being a snitch for the commie regime.
They never claimed that all rank and file of the former PZPR members should be excluded from holding of public offices.
Ironside
30 Dec 2015
News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]
Other people who committed the same crime were sentenced to two years in prison (suspended sentence) and a fine.
Other people who committed the same crime were sentenced to two years in prison (suspended sentence) and a fine.
Ironside
29 Dec 2015
Life / Comparing Poland and Romania [108]
Even if a lot of property went into private hands as well that do not diminish the fact that many rightful owners got their property back.
In Poland a lot of property went into private hands mysteriously but rightful owners more often than not got naught.
it has been long established on PF that you are both. Romania was doing worse than Poland even before the war.
Romania did nothing of the sort. A lot of property went into private hands mysteriously as well.
Even if a lot of property went into private hands as well that do not diminish the fact that many rightful owners got their property back.
In Poland a lot of property went into private hands mysteriously but rightful owners more often than not got naught.
Anyone who says that Romania has coped with its communist past better than Poland has is either dishonest, an idiot, or both.
it has been long established on PF that you are both. Romania was doing worse than Poland even before the war.
Ironside
29 Dec 2015
Life / Comparing Poland and Romania [108]
Romania is not a Slavic country and that fact in itself is more oft than not meaningless.
Romanians done soothing which Poland haven't been able to do to this day. Namely they cleansed all strata of their state, universities and other important positions from commie flunkies, they have also give back private property to their rightful owners.
other than being mostly Slavic,
Romania is not a Slavic country and that fact in itself is more oft than not meaningless.
The government struck me as a little more corrupt and 'backward' than Poland, but that could just be my imagination
Romanians done soothing which Poland haven't been able to do to this day. Namely they cleansed all strata of their state, universities and other important positions from commie flunkies, they have also give back private property to their rightful owners.
Ironside
27 Dec 2015
News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]
Another obscure dude who play politicks as if that drama would impress anyone. It is well know that most professors are weak in the head and compromised.
The only reason he forgot to mention that he took side and probably doesn't deserve that cross anyway.
Another obscure dude who play politicks as if that drama would impress anyone. It is well know that most professors are weak in the head and compromised.
The only reason he forgot to mention that he took side and probably doesn't deserve that cross anyway.
Ironside
24 Dec 2015
Life / Why do Silesians hate Poland? [41]
Yes!
Nope, Poles in general don't have any insult reserved to Silesians, and Silesians have only word for a person who might be born in Silesia but is not of Silesian origin, is that insulting - I don't think so.
If they i.e. Silesians speak their local dialect or on purpose use some Silesian accent and words - then yes. The thing is most of the Silesian can speak perfect Polish.
As for Looks - rather not, no.
Use to be before many mines has been closed.
That is my understanding of how things are.
is that because they are essentially similar?
Yes!
is there a relationship based on insults similar to Welsh and english?
Nope, Poles in general don't have any insult reserved to Silesians, and Silesians have only word for a person who might be born in Silesia but is not of Silesian origin, is that insulting - I don't think so.
Could a 'Polish' person recognise a Silesian from looks/accent etc
If they i.e. Silesians speak their local dialect or on purpose use some Silesian accent and words - then yes. The thing is most of the Silesian can speak perfect Polish.
As for Looks - rather not, no.
so all Silesians are miners are they?
Use to be before many mines has been closed.
and Silesian is just a rregional dialect of Polish?
That is my understanding of how things are.
Ironside
24 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
You are the only rabid person in here.
By your own admission you are the one who bites hand that feeds you, after all you are attacking new government because you are afraid that they will take a close look at your business practices.
Poland as well as Hungary are sovereign countries with a long history of independence and prosperity and there is not reason for them be treated as a vassal state and colonies to be exploited with detriment of their citizens.
You are talking utter tripe and you are repeating it over and over again. I don't know whether you don't know any better or it is because you don't want to know any better.
If you are only confused you might as well take my word for it, you are talking nonsense claiming that the EU is feeding Poland, utter tripe I say three times to drive it in.
Their rabid nationalism will come back to **** them both in the ass.
You are the only rabid person in here.
Well, it is true that Hungary, and now Poland, like to bite the hand that feeds them.
By your own admission you are the one who bites hand that feeds you, after all you are attacking new government because you are afraid that they will take a close look at your business practices.
Poland as well as Hungary are sovereign countries with a long history of independence and prosperity and there is not reason for them be treated as a vassal state and colonies to be exploited with detriment of their citizens.
You are talking utter tripe and you are repeating it over and over again. I don't know whether you don't know any better or it is because you don't want to know any better.
If you are only confused you might as well take my word for it, you are talking nonsense claiming that the EU is feeding Poland, utter tripe I say three times to drive it in.
Ironside
23 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
I would write to them - why don't you mind your own business? You have and never had any right to intrude into Polish internal affairs.
Word it diplomatically and send it to them on a donkey.
The European Commission are now involved :
I would write to them - why don't you mind your own business? You have and never had any right to intrude into Polish internal affairs.
Word it diplomatically and send it to them on a donkey.
Ironside
23 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Somehow I'm not surprised.
Latest polls from 19-20 Dec.
Somehow I'm not surprised.
Ironside
23 Dec 2015
Ironside
21 Dec 2015
Life / All Things Christmassy in Poland [332]
You must have been associating with some degenerates I have never seen anybody drinking on a Christmas Eve.
Err a pretty moderate drinking on a Christmas day, 48 hours? I know alcoholics do that.
Having had more than a few of each, there's certainly a lot more drinking at a Polish Christmas eve supper than at a British Christmas day lunch.
You must have been associating with some degenerates I have never seen anybody drinking on a Christmas Eve.
pretty much continued for the next 48 hours!
Err a pretty moderate drinking on a Christmas day, 48 hours? I know alcoholics do that.
Ironside
21 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Yes, Harry I'm sure you would be more than happing take your changes with a surgeon with five months experience.
it was five months,
Yes, Harry I'm sure you would be more than happing take your changes with a surgeon with five months experience.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / URGENT: Chechens refugees found a Islamic State in Poland [37]
No it doesn't, on the other hand you seems to have a problem with my views.
That is where your problem lies
No it doesn't, on the other hand you seems to have a problem with my views.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / URGENT: Chechens refugees found a Islamic State in Poland [37]
Did I blame you or anybody? I think you are too strung up for your own good and jumping to conclusions. All I'm saying that Islam and Christianity are incompatible and if a Muslim would like to emigrate to a Christian country he shouldn't be allowed to do so.
All I do understand from your previous post is that you're always trying to blamestorm.
Did I blame you or anybody? I think you are too strung up for your own good and jumping to conclusions. All I'm saying that Islam and Christianity are incompatible and if a Muslim would like to emigrate to a Christian country he shouldn't be allowed to do so.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / URGENT: Chechens refugees found a Islamic State in Poland [37]
If you are here to argue for Islam save yourself the bother.
You can't be a Muslim if you're intolerant and unconscientious.
If you are here to argue for Islam save yourself the bother.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / URGENT: Chechens refugees found a Islamic State in Poland [37]
Indeed that only to be expected sooner or later, they have no calms to introduce their rules and don't care about conscience and tolerance.
I have no issue with that as long as their are not trying to do so in a Christian country.
The problem is that Christian countries are in crisis as they are under attack by a particularly viral mutation of a deadly virus - progressiveness.
Luckily Poland remained largely immune to that virus and let keep it that way. Muslims have no chance to find a foothold in Poland even though the SA seems to be trying to use and influence Polish Tatars in a vain hope that their particular religion wahhabism can be transplanted and their faith spread in Poland eventually.
Indeed that only to be expected sooner or later, they have no calms to introduce their rules and don't care about conscience and tolerance.
I have no issue with that as long as their are not trying to do so in a Christian country.
The problem is that Christian countries are in crisis as they are under attack by a particularly viral mutation of a deadly virus - progressiveness.
Luckily Poland remained largely immune to that virus and let keep it that way. Muslims have no chance to find a foothold in Poland even though the SA seems to be trying to use and influence Polish Tatars in a vain hope that their particular religion wahhabism can be transplanted and their faith spread in Poland eventually.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / Should Poland exit the EU immediately? [377]
Hmm, can you post a link or something to support your opinion? After all Poland like all countries pay in to the EU as well. Not to mention lost revenues in taxes.
I don't think any such a rule exist.
Whoa !! just slow down or you get accused of living on the Mars and having no real knowledge about Poland and Polish afdfirer by t he usual suspects.
lies
No, numbers are not growing.
If Poland wanted to EXIT the EU, it would have to pay back to the EU all the grants/monies given to Poland in the last few years.
Hmm, can you post a link or something to support your opinion? After all Poland like all countries pay in to the EU as well. Not to mention lost revenues in taxes.
I don't think any such a rule exist.
It's still overall probably but as they say every rose has its thorn and Germany making unilateral decisions that it expects other countries to meekly follow along with is a real big thorn for most Polish people.
Whoa !! just slow down or you get accused of living on the Mars and having no real knowledge about Poland and Polish afdfirer by t he usual suspects.
What makes him a slanderer?
lies
Numbers are growing
No, numbers are not growing.
Ironside
20 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
you and your dirty tricks and lies are just disgusting.
you and your dirty tricks and lies are just disgusting.
Ironside
19 Dec 2015
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
If you are unable to address the issue, as you have no arguments and you were wrong in repeating nonsense it would be so much better if you keep quiet rather then making silly remarks.
If you are unable to address the issue, as you have no arguments and you were wrong in repeating nonsense it would be so much better if you keep quiet rather then making silly remarks.
Ironside
19 Dec 2015
News / Should Poland exit the EU immediately? [377]
Seems to me that the UK have and always had an abundant quantity of those types although I can see your point, there is no need for even few more if you are full to the brim.
The worst immigrants kind of immigrants are the know it all passive-aggressive miserable c. calling from the country I won't name.
Aye! Hopefully Uk will opt out of the EU, and hopefully Poland will follow the new trend.
The UK has imported some terrible individuals, some child killers, others violently beating people up, robbers, benefit fraudsters, the list is endless and still they keep coming, its truly awful.
Seems to me that the UK have and always had an abundant quantity of those types although I can see your point, there is no need for even few more if you are full to the brim.
The worst immigrants kind of immigrants are the know it all passive-aggressive miserable c. calling from the country I won't name.
the UK had a referendum on the horizon, soon, hopefully Poland will too.
Aye! Hopefully Uk will opt out of the EU, and hopefully Poland will follow the new trend.
Ironside
19 Dec 2015
News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]
You keep repeating this as a fact. Actually it wasn't a fake KOD page as K. didn't asked for the police to investigate the matter.
You should talk about facts as they are in this case we can talk about allegedly fake page.
Any prove for your claim? As somebody who is so sensitive about media reporting facts just because you are hell bend to give it your meaning to the issue that "admite diversas interpretaciones" can be interpreted in several different ways. Whereas you yourself are jumping to conclusions and like to post unsupported assumptions without any evidence whatsoever.
What that even means putinist?
You mean comment on a fact. Admittedly it is an interesting way of viewed the world. Gobbles would be proud. lol! Scratch that he was an amateur in comparison to the Bolsheviks or a present day neo-Marxists.
What about all the right-winged media that reported the fake KOD page
You keep repeating this as a fact. Actually it wasn't a fake KOD page as K. didn't asked for the police to investigate the matter.
You should talk about facts as they are in this case we can talk about allegedly fake page.
putinist Mateusz Piskorski
Any prove for your claim? As somebody who is so sensitive about media reporting facts just because you are hell bend to give it your meaning to the issue that "admite diversas interpretaciones" can be interpreted in several different ways. Whereas you yourself are jumping to conclusions and like to post unsupported assumptions without any evidence whatsoever.
What that even means putinist?
Radio Maryja led the charge.
You mean comment on a fact. Admittedly it is an interesting way of viewed the world. Gobbles would be proud. lol! Scratch that he was an amateur in comparison to the Bolsheviks or a present day neo-Marxists.
Ironside
19 Dec 2015
News / Should Poland exit the EU immediately? [377]
Indeed, some red nutters and other deranged fanatics or chancers.
I couldn't agree with you more about Poland getting the wrong immigrants.
Indeed, some red nutters and other deranged fanatics or chancers.
Ironside
18 Dec 2015