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Ironside   
1 Dec 2016
News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]

The east European countries were run down to such an extent that no one could rescue them economically

That is a common misconception and a myth. Poland didn't need rescuing. What she lacked was an elite capable of solving problems. What Poland got was soviet scum and soviet political police posed for a quick buck.

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my opinion, Poland wouldn't have stood a chance to create a competitive economy without the help of the EU.

Yes, I know your opinion. You're wrong.
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With whom and how?

Whoever is around in the area and whoever wants to.
Ironside   
1 Dec 2016
News / Germany After the EU and the Russian Scenario - future of the European Union and Poland [310]

The EU as we know it will be gone within the next 10 years,

Good!

A new core union will certainly not make the same mistake again and admit any potential net recipients of funds and/or member states that are overly nationalistic and /or obstructive.

WTF are you talking about? The main problem of the EU is fact that it has no clear structure or a clear path, or aims. It's supposedly like a buffet everyone can pick up what suite them the best and such a arrangement it's supposedly beneficial for everyone. That is clearly a propaganda that have been sold to the public.

Sure think there are those sectors and people who greatly benefit from the EU, but.. its ain't everyone not even majority that benefits from those arrangements.

The EU supposed to be a big economical zone so big that would be able to compete with China, USA and other zones. That supposed to be an European answer to globalisation. That clearly isn't the case.

The only advantage for them was a fact that EU expansion prevented creation of competitive economies that would arise in the freed of the communist occupation eastern European countries

The EU is BS organization where big corporations and financial banking system have a free rein to explore and profit. Those firms are working hand in hand with their national governments. In other words western European countries used their economical advantage to exploit economically weaker members, admittance of post-communist countries has given them bust and upset balance that existed between north and south of the original EU, hence Greek crisis, Italy is in line and Spain as well.

Talk about further integration is another BS. What integration? If they're talking about federal state - there should be federal structures and federal powers and federal laws but first of all there should be economical interaction - all state debts should be taken over by the federal government.

There is noting of the kind. Germany dominated EU and its national interests dictate EU policies. That is BS not EU.

As for those famous founds, that is kind of a bribe to the circles and some people to advocate for EU. In term of the real effect on a country that is a ripest of the those fund there is no such a clear cut benefits. Like so far Poland got 90cents per head. F... fortune!

The only other issue that EU supported with (money) and political pressure is a neo-Marxist ideology. Those hare-brained ideas of the regressive left! Wow! To have that c...b working you need a welfare state and/or a very rich economy otherwise it automatically goes into a oppressive regime mode because that is such a c.. that it cannot function properly otherwise.

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Poland has developed sufficiently by then, maybe it will be asked to join

Poland in that circumstances would build her own regional alliance and collaboration between states that have much more of a common ground, common problems and common interests than with any other countries on the continent.

Germany with their concept of their dominance over the Middle Europa as they call it and can go f...themselves pink! Bloody Borg.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2016
News / Polish parliament refuses to consider shack-up draft between both traditional and same-sex couples [96]

Polish government should follow an example of Germany and pass the law that the Polish law takes precedence over the EU laws.
So, we can dispense with slogans and an illusion that the Germany threats the EU integration seriously. They'll try to make those countris that will let them into German colonies and once it fail they will dump that project all together build some Franco-German plus few western European countries block.
Ironside   
25 Nov 2016
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Where would you suggest I start?

Search for your family name in armoires (books with crest and names) of Polish nobility. You can find some online, mostly in Polish, some in English but you would have to pay to use it.

genealogia.okiem.pl/glossary/herby.php
thetreemaker.com/family-crest-z.html

I have already checked for you and there is ,Rekowski' in the records availed on line.
Still, doesn't mean you're a noble for that you should have make sure that one of your ancestor didn't change his name to Rekowski. Could be that your name is in fact Rękowski and that changes things.

I was in Krakow yesterday and polish man we met said there is a possibility that it was a noble name from the town of Rekowo. Any thoughts on this?

He was talking out of his backside. Although there is a small chance that he was right, remember that those helpful strangers are not experts.

As to Crow he is our Serbian storyteller - his obsession - Slaves and Serbians.
Ironside   
18 Nov 2016
News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ?

Being part of the NATO alliance that country seems to be rather serious about their independence.
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added some tribal nationalizm with fake history

They should wise up and stop discriminatory practises against Poles in the Lithuanian. If not one day it will bite them into backside.
Ironside   
15 Nov 2016
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

The accident happened on Russian territory, that limits Poland's options in terms of investigations.

Not really, given a fact that aircraft that crashed belonged to the Polish Air Force. In which case primarily investigation belongs to Poland. However Tusk for whichever reason agreed with Russians to treat that crash as an aviation accident of a civil aircraft. In such a case Russian law gave primarily responsibility to Russian investigators.

The International Civil Aviation Organization recognized a fact that TU-154 of the Polish Air Force wasn't a civilian aircraft.
Tusk and PO are those bodies which and who are primarily responsible for this mess.
Rusians are just being their obnoxious self.
Ironside   
15 Nov 2016
News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Could someone update me to know the method of the madness for Moscow's refusal so far to return the plane's wreckage and the flight recorders to the Poles.

Donald Tusk ( a mix between Obama and Hillary) practically gave up investigation and handed it on a sliver platter into Muscovy hands. No method beside an inept political crook who is out there only for himself versus a smooth Russian operative.

There is no question about a fact that Putin's regime is not friendly towards Poland and won't cooperate with Warsaw.
Ironside   
14 Nov 2016
News / CO2 emissions in Poland. Should Poland go nuclear or stick with clean coal technologies? [93]

Its a phrase for deluded .peiple with no knowledge of science at all.

Talking about yourself? There is no "clean" technology for any kind of energy that can be used commercially. Fixation on CO2 which is not half bad as ideological demonizing has it, means that 'clean' in the context reads as 'greatly reduced or reduced to negligible quantity'.
Ironside   
31 Oct 2016
Language / "Czarny" vs. "Czerny", vs. "Charni" vs. "Cherni", etc. [21]

Why do both "Czarny" and "Czerny" exist for "Black" in Polish?

They don't. Czarny means Black in Polish. Czerny sounds like an archaic version of the same world. It could be still in use in few neighbouring languages

, the family name "Czerny" itself, is NOT Jewish

Right! I think you're wasting your typing power on Nicki.
Ironside   
30 Oct 2016
Life / Poland - what is your brand? [39]

The brand name could be "Exporting Toilet Cleaners

That is pathetic you cannot even came up with a brand name. You are truly an authentic dimwit and a looser. Can you even find a toiled and do you know who to use it without a map and an instruction, do you even have one - I honestly doubt it. "The best toilet Cleaners in the World" that is a good brand name. All turds beware of the Polish toiled cleaners!

What are you waiting for Alby? Shoo, you're stinking this forum.
Ironside   
30 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

His actions did in fact prevent her from having an abortion.

I disagree with it. That is a certain interpretation of what has happened. Does it matters now? He got fired. I think he shouldn't be fired.

in fact deny that he had broken the law,

Geez I do not deny that he had broken the law. I'm point out some issues plus my reasoning why in fact I do not agree with the severity of the punishment he and hospital had been served with.

Why are you putting the onus on her?

I think I have explained why in my pervious post.

I say yes.

We can agree to disagree.

He broke current laws.

Which is redundant and outdated now.
Ironside   
29 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

You see Iron, you're doing it again.

Again?

Rather than admit that what Chazan did was to break the law

That is rather obvious isn't it? I rather skip over something which is blindingly obvious to talk about important stuff. What are you taking me for? To deny a fact would make me an unreasonable (looking for a word here ...) Harry?

you attack the woman instead and try to blame her for his failings.

I expect people to be reasonable adults as they claim to be not an inept tools as there is often the case.
I don't blame her, I only reason rightly that if she knew how to go about VIF she should be able to get herself an abortion without much of a difficulty. Maybe money is the answer - I don't know but can't help to remain suspicious here.

The point is that it was his job to refer her to someone else

Sure, but in my opinion that is only technicality something that made sense 20 years ago, outdated and redundant now. I would expect a real judge to take it into consideration not just to be a stickler to the letter of the law.

A fine would do the trick - punishment that fit the crime - fire him - no!

Can you imagine what would happen if every Polish doctor acted the way that he did and broke the law?

Depend on the law. If by breaking that law he would be in accord with a natural law and a morality that it wouldn't bother me.

As far as I'm concerned this guy is trying to play god

Many very good doctors do that, goes with the job. The question is has his 'discretion' in this case been so bad that warranted his dismissal? I say - Nay!

I'm convinced Chazan is cut from the same cloth. He's a sadist

That is your opinion that sounds like assassination of character. Lesser people would ask you to prove it or pay up!
Ironside   
29 Oct 2016
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Any country wishing to leave the EU after the 31st of March 2017, will have to have the permission of 20 other European member states

Really? Bummer they must hurry up!

No surprise this idea comes on a Polish forum.. I

Nah, this is an American forum, and talking about specific countries or union is just a fantasy of one Serbian.
There is an idea to form - something better than EU in this region.

not necessarily shared by Lithuanians..

Well, that a complex story but to put it bluntly those are impostors not to be listen to.
Ironside   
29 Oct 2016
Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]

I'm only sharing my experience

Figures! How your desperation to get out of the ghetto worked for you?

Pointer - if you are making unsound generalisations its screams at us in big letters that you're not the sharpest knife in a drawer.

By the way your kin from the gutter represent only themselves.
Pathetic troll, laughable creature or should we rather pity you/? :)
Ironside   
26 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

And if abortion is not part of the job description for a doctor how could doctors save the lives of women when continuing with pregnancy would endanger the mother's life?

Sure, saving life is in the job description for a doctor, an abortion is very rarely dangerous to mother's life. In the case of doctor Chazan mother was in no danger. An abortion doesn't equal saving life quite the opposite.

your statement regarding a simple yes or no answer to whether someone has the right to take the life of another is not that simple. I

I think we are arguing here about semantics.

You don't know that, it is merely your opinion.

Sure, like everything that is being written here is someone opinion but sometimes it is also a fact at the same time.

To start with what difference does it make whether the womans' pregnancies were a result of IVF or not?

Several:
First of all she wasn't same stupefied teen but somebody well versed and experienced in all that pertain abortions and pregnancy.
Hence that reliance on a doctor to refer he to somebody else is just pained too large to be truth.

Second of all, I personally think that women is not sane and maybe having to give a birth to a sick child would be a wake up call, she is not buying a doll in the shop for goodness sake.

It wasn't her first pregnancy either.

Do you think that should somehow preclude her from the right to a legal abortion if she is carrying a severely deformed child?

No, I just think that all that circumstances are shady like a provocation - that all!

Unexpectedly?

Yes, as I said those were protests organized by KOD, a post-soviet establishment stooge without real substantial support among the populace. The can gather a few paid actors if there is must but this time they were joined by many women - in that context it was unexpected.

To see it in the other context - number of the protesters, counting them at max and really generously was about 100 000, whereas project of the law to ban abortion had been signed by more than 500 000.

he apparently ordered unnecessary tests

That is your opinion.

But it was not her responsibility to find a doctor herself to perform the abortion was it?

Sure it was. Why would that be somebody else responsibility? That paragraph is outdated.

should not be working in gynaecology if their conscience is going to get in the way of their professional duty.

That what the conflict was about. Professor Chazan claims that doctors have the right to act according with their conscience.
Being an example to others - some one doesn't like it! Some one with the access to the real money - simple.

In addition, i don't think it is quite so simple to find willing doctors either.

I beg to differ. She could have go to the same doctor she went to before. Why change a doctor? eh?

That's more or less what Maf said in his post but if you're both right, then he's going about it in totally the wrong way

Maybe, I don't care. He and PiS are étatist, socialist, pro-EU and softies that talk big but act small.

putting Poland and the government in the international spotlight

Poland need to build its own strong economy, their own alliance and their own nuclear weapon and cutting edge technologies, then all those spotlights, groups of interest and lobbyist can go and .......! Since then - who cares?
Ironside   
25 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

The law requires this and he didn't do it.

Nonsense that is only technicality. In non soviet minded court such a case would never stand. It would be enough if he would have said to her - you can find someone on the internet or ask in the reception. More, it could be well argued if she reality wanted that abortion she would find the way easily. After all that woman knew how to go about to get so called IVF treatment.

Unfortunately in Poland majority of judges are not much and the law and its interpretation is soviet in its spirt, not to mention corruption.

If he was stupid enough to fall for it,

No, that is criminal mind-set maketis. That is the way crooks think.
He has his principles he stand by them and he is doing a good job and there is no need for him to be wary of some traps, provocation and other such a shady deals.

System in any normal democratic country should be set to provide protection for law abiding, upstanding, honest citizens even from a poorly worded legislation.
That correction should be done by courts, however courts in Poland are appalling in handing out issues, and evidently not up to task, just rulings are not on the menu, or last on the menu.

All he had to do was his job.

He is not a robot. It could be even argued that abortion is not a part of the job description for a doctor.
Ironside   
24 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Professor Dębski was the doctor who spoke out condemning Bogdan Chazan,

Professor Bogdan Chazan :)
OK! A woman has been directed to Professor Chazan from a medical centre to terminate her pregnancy. Although it is well know in Warsaw not only in medical circles that he refuses to do that on principle.

That was a second or third pregnancy that woman wanted to terminate due to genetic abnormalities.
By the way all her pregnancies - result of IVF.

Myths and facts:
He prevented her from havening abortion. A lie number one.
He had no way of preventing her from going elsewhere if she wanted to.

He was fired because he refused to do this or that. Not true, he had the right to refuse it.
No, he was fired for political reasons. Pretext - there is an entry in that law that says that a doctor should point out such a woman to a doctor that is willing to help her with her plans to abort that child.

That is merely a technicality, after all in newspapers, internet, anywhere you can find the right dude for a job. We are talking Warswa, we are talking grown married woman not a teen, a women that knew how to go about IVF no less.

However, PO is ruling in Warsaw they used their influence to kick him out, possibly as a favour.

The same people are right now in a deep trouble as it came to light that they are all mixed up in a corruption and theft scandal. That have been going for years and involves millions of dollars, billions even.

My opinion:, that was evidently a provocation, someone used that woman to get rid of the good doctor, either to take his place as the director of that hospital, or because he was standing in the way to expand their venture to make lots of money on the abortion business which is big.

I would look closely with whom Professor Debski is associated, who is in charge of the hospital now and with whom that person is connected? That would answer few questions.
Ironside   
24 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

The Poles' polls currently show otherwise.

Phew!

Not exactly unexpectedly

Oh, unusual as to KOD's demonstrations, usually in attendance on those events there are a three paid stooges and a dog. There are more actors every time they're to be filmed - not great many people either.

So yes - public interest in those street performances risen from usual none (zero) to ten in the case of the proposed changes of the abortion law.

Accidently, the details of proposed changes have been massively misinterpreted and lied about to the public by the usual suspects in the media.
Ironside   
24 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Your belief in the sanctity of life seems to apply only to an unborn child,

It pretty simple. There are people who by their own action stop being protected. If they attack someone or break into a home thereafter can be killed - simple. Basic concept of self-delence.

An unborn child is unable to act hence cannot be excluded from the protection due to its deeds. The only exception being if by her/his very existence engagers a life of the other - mother's.

consistent and logical.

Coincidentally, Professor Dębski was the doctor who spoke out condemning Bogdan Chazan

No conscience there - all is clear that all is politically motivated and he was talking as a part of political performance not as an expert. That tells you lots about what kind of a person he is. eh?

According to this article

That is misinformation.
In Poland at the movement there is a huge political battle, a low profile but ongoing.
A general outline:
Minority of post-commies and co. Mostly connected by all kind of sahey deals and money isues that interwix wioth polocial power, are organizing not very popular staged demistrcions. Protesting against being ousted for the first (second) time for that last 27 years.

Kinda post-commie, opportunistic, financial, mafia, politicians mix that created a kind of establishment in Poland after 1989.

Now, they are not in power anymore and they don't like. They don't have popular support - just some. For the moment majority of Poles (those who vote) are OK with PiS government.

The other side grap any opportunity to cause unrest they can. Because unexpectedly many women turned up for those protests against something that have been lied about in the opposition press.

The same circles are trying to milk it for all its worth by lying some more.
There is no new laws brewing. In my opinion there'll be any more laws on that issue in the foreseeable future. If JK said something its typical political double talk to placate some of his supports who are in favour of change of those laws.

A big no story.
Ironside   
20 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

I can't answer that in the way you want me to

Fair enough, but your feeling as feelings go are illogical. There isn't any logical explain why would you think that a murder or vile murders shouldn't be executed, but at the same time a child that hasn't done anything to anyone could be simply put into a garbage can, or worse used as parts in some medical cures. Make no sense to me.

If a choice has to be made in a medical emergency, I believe the mother should be saved.

There is no disagreement as long as she is give a choice in that matter.

How?

Because I read that law, because I have listen to what the lawyers they wrote that law said. Because that doctor and other alleged concerned people are doing nothing else but playing political games aimed to hurt the current government. Hence they cannot be trusted.

a doctor cannot remove it under laws which prohibit abortion for ANY reason. Fact or not?

No, a doctor can remove it if the mother's life or health is at stake. Do I need to spell it for you? Geez ... sorry Chem but that I have been telling you this from the day one.

Meaning that in the case of after mentioned affliction, such a pregnancy could be terminated without punitive repercussions.

Just because he might be pro-choice, doesn't mean that what he said was wrong.

I think that he support himself and his profits that wound be considerable smaller if not for abortions he performs or maybe he is only interested in removing the current government from power as they would make his life considerable more difficult. I don't know for sure - your guess is as good as mine. The one thing is clear that dude is either dumb as an ashtray, has problems with reading comprehension or he was lying through his teeth.

I've no doubt that you would would probably categorize me as a leftie,

No, I think you're one of those people who comforts to all those principles, prejudices and beliefs that are prevalent in your circles. although you're a smart, ~(an intelligent woman) with some academic background and you as I have already said, know what a debate means. I can always agree to disagree and remain on a respectfully friendly terms with you. Whereas other people in here are either *****************, ideological fanatics or dicks with a chip on their shoulder which is a size of the Alaska. :) Hash tag - not all!

By the way, pardon my French.
Ironside   
20 Oct 2016
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Even in the states you can't get away with doing that

Well, actually you can. Admittedly it depends on a state you reside in.
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There are far easier ways to deter burglars

Personal experience?:) Those methods are not easier and even if they are where is personal choice in that?
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In fact, those police statistics say that Poland is one of the safest countries in Europe.

Guns wouldn't make it more dangerous.
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You cannot justify death by intentional acts of violence with death caused by accidental means

Hey, France a truck as a tool to mass murder - rigs a bell? anything can be used to kill, guns can be used also for self-defence, they can and in fact do save lives.

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Why bring about a change in the law which would increase an already low crime rate? There really is no logic whatsoever in that.

There is no logical connection between number and gun in a country and number of committed crimes. Its defies the logic as if a gun would turn people into cold blood killers. Please!

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bet that you and probably the rest of PF's posters haven't been in a life or death situation which warranted the use of a gun,

Get rid of your fire alarm and a fire extinguisher, you haven't need them in a situation which warranted the use of them.
Guns for a regular person are like a insurance, you'll have no need for it 99% of the time but if you need it then its a life saver. If you don't need it at all what the harm? Such a additional insurance policy should be personal choice.

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This is the American point of view,

I would say that is a logical point of view. If you are a woman accosted by four to five thugs you are in a deep trouble unless you're a teen ninja hero in disguise. Having a gun (and a know how to use it) even those odds. Right?

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They can see the problems America has with guns

They watch TV and they hear a liberal, anti-gun propaganda. Reality on the ground is a different kettle of fish.
America has no problems with guns, America has problem with a ghetto culture/life style supported by the Democratic Party, plus outdated laws regarding a mentally ill people, plus open door policy for Illegal immigration from the south, plus the anchor baby law.

All that can be fixed if there was a political consensus to do so.
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As Obama said

Obama is no a credible person. He flame a racial tension, and then he steps in, saying - hey I can cure it! He is like a fireman who start the fire and is first to fight it to claim a credit as a hero. Sad!

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Ironside   
15 Oct 2016
Polonia / POLES vs BULGARIANS [160]

I presume that they also almost never think about Bulgaria, exept wen the summer is about to come ;)

You're right on you money.
On the internet you can find a very weird people and trolls.
Ironside   
15 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

if you agree with that statement, and it's a simple yes/no answer, you have to apply it to everyone and all situations

You're right of course if you take that sentence out of context. I wrote that sentence trying to make it all simple and clear to you. I guess I should have asked instead - do you Chemikiem believe in the sanctity of human life?

To answer your question.
Not really. There are extenuating cinrcimctenses even if we believe in a sanctity of human. Those circumstances pertain in a one way or other to the issue of self -defence.

You cannot apply it just to the life of the unborn child.

I don't apply it just to the life of the unborn child. I apply it to all the people, except for those whose action put them outside the sphere of protection due to the natural law of self - defence.

That is double standards.

No double standards.

has pre-eclampsia and it is a threat to her life, how the woman would be protected if the doctor is banned from removing the foetus?

Geez, how many times........ OK!
Won't be banned or wouldn't be banned OK? That is a lie or manipulation.

it is a threat to her life

and health and health.

Why would he need to be a lawyer?

I was being kind to him. Maybe he is not a lair but an idiot.

so why would you think he was lying in the statement he made? Are you questioning his professionalism and knowledge?

I question his motivations

And most scientists, doctors, nurses...

Don't be silly, lefties are far removed from science and reason, they use only slogans and BS.

which is why they can put their principles before any problems.

Talking about yourself Harry?
Ironside   
14 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Prove that fetuses are children by a list of non-genetic features.

Would brain weaves count or a heart bet?

A possible boundary - needing another's life processes to exist.

So people on a life support are not humans anymore, we can harvest them for parts? eh?

why that should be limited to abortion.

It stands to reason that the right self -defence would be the only exception. Do you really question that?

don't know why you cannot see that this would not have been the case if the new laws had been implemented.

For a very simple reason IO know what was in that law because I can read it. In case of pre-eclampsia nothing of the sort would have happened and mother's life would be fully protected.

Romuald Dębski

Who is not a lawyer by any stretch of imagination and who has a vested interest in defending status quo. To put it simple that dude was lying. It possible that our good doctor is unable to read a considerably simple text with comprehension.
Ironside   
10 Oct 2016
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

I say it's a religious belief because science doesn't support it.

Wow, just give up and take part in discussion more suitable to your "needs", like a pop music or the last fashion maybe.

Meanwhile it is not logical or irrefutable that fetuses are "children"

prove it!