Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

In countries such as Germany, most of Scandinavia as well I imagine, the ONLY way in which any private citizen (the operative word here) can ever hope to legally obtain a weapon is by taking a mandatory aka certified course in how to operate such a firearm, then through the application for a state-sponsored license accurately attesting to the individual's proven ability to operate said weapon!

America is about the laxest country in this regard among the industrialized nations today, not to mention that her primary care for all is basically in the toilet.......on the same level as Costa RicaLOL

Along with with many other issues regarding standardization, this country's become a joke, and the joke's on us.

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...for the unflattering, but simple, reason that Jews were among the more numerous of the white settlers. As they were typically called upon as traders, small wonder again that they would have lent their skills to the slave trade, looked on as merely one more kind of transaction...UNFORTUNATELY.

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The whole problem is that where Mr. La Pierre & Company maintain their steady mantra of "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE", if the people didn't have the guns already in hand, probably nobody would be killed!!

Kinda a no brainer, ain't it?

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As I posted yesterday, both authors Stephen Birmingham and Eli Evans have attested to the fact that certain Jewish families in the Southern United States most certainly DID engage in the purchase of slaves, regrettable as this obviously was, it was the exception, not the rule!

In Latin America as well as the Indies, true enough, a number of European Jews were among the "successful" slave traders, unfortunately.
Even on our North American continent, and especially in the early years of Hollywood, messrs. Lasky, Goldwyn, and Mayer did regrettably aid in portraying African-Americans as part of the cinema in a most demeaning manner. This I never whitewashed, along with the sad number of financial abusers in the different venue of Wall St., such as Bosky, Millken, later Bernie Boy etc..

In attempting to overcome stereotypes and prejudice, I am the first to confess that many Jews jumped on the Great American Bandwagon of success and sold out their core values for a piece of the American Pie, including the landsmanschaften etc.

This is to be sure something of which I am not proud!!

Genealogy / Polish looks? - part 2 [81]

Not having seen a likeness, I really can't say:-)

A Polish female acquaintance of ours once remarked that Poles tend to have characteristically oval-shaped faces.

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@G

This has never been seriously documented. While it is true that many black African tribes did in fact enslave their neighbors' tribespeople, fellow black Africans, Jews were often accused of slavery in order to justify the continuing bias against Jews as hucksters and cheats.

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Your point being Poles often are physically mistaken for Germans and vice versa?

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Jewish slave owners in our American South were few and far between, so let's be clear on that point! It is true that numerous wealthy Jewish merchants (most from Germany) often were, for example, the sole dry goods dealers in a given Southern town. This though in no way equates their influence or the extent of their slave holdings with that of their majority Protestant neighbors.

Eli Evans' treatise on this subject is most enlightening.

As far as the nomenclature issue in Poland, clearly Duda is getting mixed reviews.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Folks, arming teachers misses the forest for the trees!

The issue is NOT how to prepare our educators for a potential killing field in our classrooms, rather, to reduce the need PERMANENTLY if possible to even carry assault weapons in school, on the street, anywhere except the rifle range and/or an honest to gosh violent situation in which, say, a gunman has taken hostages or is threatening someone in our community!

Only recently in Britain has talk of arming bobbies even been broached, this in the wake of the recent terror attacks in London and in Manchester.

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Scores of German surnames are repleat with Slavic admixture "Dutschke" (as in Rudi Dutschke), "Jeschke", "Schnittke", "Nietzsche", "Buschka" etc.
Usually, such names are Czech, sometimes Polish or Kashub, in origin.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

All right there, Dirk, granted the statistics may or may not back you up on that one. Nevertheless, somethin's gotta give sooner or later. We only hope that it's sooner.

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@DirkDIggler, that "small" number is already one number too many!

@TheOther, I''l frankly put my money on a brick wallLOL

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Australia too consistently fines those Australian citizens who choose to shirk their civic duty by abstaining from voting. Wonder if that would work elsewhere:-)

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Correct, Atch!@

But nobody's going to "revisit" a blessed thing, because compared with much of Europe, Americans are almost pathologically uncomfortable with historical reflection and second-guessing their own actions, even lethal or harmful ones.

You'll hear little breast beating here. Americans on the whole feel what's done is done and cannot be undone, so simply move on.

Perhaps this present march on Washington will knock some sense into our legislators' stupid heads, huh, whaddya say?

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Oh, now I getcha, Siggie. OK, so if the recent migrants had been Swedes, Norwegians or Dutchmen, things would have been different and the discourse more civilized, is that it?

YEAH, RIGHT!!!

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Is the issue here really, like the old saw suggests. that "migrants bring crime", or possibly that the arrival of migrants into countries like Germany, less so Poland, was merely the catalyst needed to unleash gun violence which might have been lying dormant all along, but was triggered by the unexpected sight of dark-skinned "foreign" faces among a populace not accustomed to such changes?

Guess I'm by nature a skeptic and don't feel comfortable with quick-fix type solutions to infinitely complicated issues, that's all.

When our president stated a week ago, that such shootings as occurred in Florida indicate what happens when the mentally ill have access to assault weapons, clearly, he was missing the point. The point is why are guns in the hands of so many "normal" people to begin with, the deranged notwithstanding!

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Our president ought to bear the latter in mind, don't you think?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Mentioned on Wiki that Morawiecki's family is partially Jewish, furthermore, two of his blood relations (two aunts) were Holocaust survivors, if this info is accurate:-)

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All this has indirectly to do with the thread topic, whether a law which criminalizes the use of a misleading term, will protect citizens from the truth or not.

Where's the problem?

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Roosevelt saved this (once) great country from going the way of Nazi Germany. If someone is honestly entitled to gov't. aid, then by golly, they deserve to get it. If they're livin' off the dole, then agreed, they ought to get a swift kick in the butt and told to get a job.

A government is not merely a caretaker observer, but a regulatory agency which ideally was meant as a force of good, as America's Fathers, for instance (unlike Trump) knew instinctively that most people are basically lazy and swinish, quick to steal, pillage, rob, and let languish, if they had their druthers. Like the stern, but loving parent, the government was there to offer, not give out, help where it wasn't needed, furthermore, to reign in the greedy hand of the naughty child!

From around '47 - '63, it seemed as though the US government was doing her job nicely.

However, it looks as if I've run up against a bumper crop of disillusioned '60's -style idealists, suspicious of anything conventional, traditional, and workable....like our government's erstwhile role in the shaping the New Deal, a raw deal only to the Scrooges of this land.

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Nevertheless, we see the results of ignoring crucial groups of underserved and neglected Americans; look at what just happened in Florida.

The gun nuts though will never change:-)

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It seems, as with the electorate who sent Reagan over the top and into the Oval Office, that many misunderstand the basic rights guaranteed us as American citizens.

A historian, Michael Beschloss (??), I think, wrote a book years back, claiming that modern day Americans, Republicans above all, have warped the original meaning of the Constitution as signifying small instead of in fact, a bigger gov't. role than was previously realized.

Might be worth a read:-)

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Even the Bill of Rights did not forego the need for a conscience, Maf! As I keep reminding folks such as yourselves, "ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL"!

You seem to advocate a sort of 'Lord of the Flies' scenario as concerns the need to protect citizens from themselves, where the kids take over and adult supervision, the guidance of wisdom is non existent at worst, at best, marginalized.

Perhaps you or I have little need for gov't. help. Well, others have and who is to say that we are superior aka more fit to live and pursue every citizen's RIGHT to happiness, free of want and fear?

This is what happens when we lose sight of traditional values and attempt to play G_d.

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Well, Maf, I see your're what I began to suspect all along, a Social Darwinist, i.e you believe in the survival of the fittest a la the eugenics program advocated by, among others, good ol' Yankee Doodle Dandy, rootin', tootin' American, Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes (...geez where d'ya think the Nazis probably got the idea from in the first place??)!

You'll have to do better than that, friend.

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@Maf, tain't a question of following "religious arguments" or not! The issue is, rather than "infantilizing adults" (whatever the heck that's supposed to mean), allowing those who perhaps might know better, to weigh in on situations before they spin out of control!! Maybe you're a completely well-adjusted male, doesn't mean everybody else is, does it?

If you are in a position of authority and strength and you see someone being bullied right in front of you, being threatened with homophobic or racist threats, I'd hope you'd at least attempt to get help or express some sort of concerted outrage.

By the by, I have my problems with Israeli hypocrisy myself, so you needn't throw that example up to me. Sadly, I'd have to agree with you there.

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You misunderstand, maf!

Say, some child is being bullied mercilessly in the schoolyard. The young boy (presumably) could try their best to fend off the bully. Then again, as with more than may care to admit, they might need some help from a school authority to protect and defend the child against such bullying! Have the kid ask his fellow pupils, "Gee, ya think I asked for it, or not?". these days, chances are the other kids would side with the bully, not the victim...the price of what is sometimes termed (in-)human nature. In addition, some out there are simply not as equipped to engage in rough housing and street fighting, no matter how hard they try to shed a nebbishy self image. Why ought anyone allow the truly deserving to suffer, penalizing them, while rewarding the wrong doer aka the bully?

My point is that gov't. in most civilized societies is, at least SHOULD, be there to protect and defend citizens from hatred, bullying, and violence against the weaker of this world, born through no choice of their own, less burly, tough-looking or physically intimidating than certain others. The average person usually falls short of their responsibilities to follow the Bible's guidelines; they need a higher force to intervene. We are all commanded to do so. Like the proverbial traffic signs, it's not a suggestion, it's the unspoken law.

Got it??

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@Maf, where humankind errs, it clearly needs government to firmly step in and set things right, that's only common sense.
Remember the old wisdom "Man proposes, God disposes" (Czlowiek strzela, Pan Bog nosi kule)!

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@Maf, you asked before concerning who determines what is hate speech?! Seriously??

Human decency determines such, not governments!

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@Gregy,

The Holocaust is considered to stand alone among history's worst massacres, including those which you mention as well as the mass slaughter over the decades of Native Americans, for the reason that never before did a single gov't. of a modern, industrially developed nation, singly and without significant foreign aid, methodically, calculatedly, and consistently make it their ideology to destroy root and branch an entire peoples within that country's midst, exclusively based on biological reasons!

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@Maf, I see you've never heard of either slander or libel, apparently! That's "free" speech too, yet clearly (and justifiably) punishable, as it can damage another's reputation, livelihood etc. As I pointed out, "FREEdom" is never free, it must be jealously guarded in order that the needs of all are served who seek truth.

You seem super mired in '60's lefty, socialist-type garbage, don't you!

@G(undercover), Jedwabne investigation "evil"?? Something to hide here, have we?