News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


I try to, but it makes me dizzy sometimes!


Another optimist. :)

Oh, well... I really hope you're right, guys. *fingers crossed*

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Exactly!

When Ukraine loses Donbass and invades Poland to regain "Закерзоння" and compensate for the loss in the east, the West will be so confused that they will probably still send Ukraine weapons and money before they realise what's happening.


Can you realistically see Russia losing - with the USA no longer giving too much of a toss and European NATO being what it is?


It will always depend on the mood in the Kremlin unless at least 4 EU countries (Poland, Germany, Finland, Romania) develop their strong and independent nuclear forces.


Oh, your eternal optimism, BB! :)

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


That's the point. The Cold War was when the USA and Soviet Union made proxy wars somewhere in Asia or Africa and we read about it in newspapers. When Ukraine is invaded and soon maybe Poland, then there is nothing cold about it - indeed it is very hot!


It all depends on the price. I shall ask again: is the West invading (or in ANY meaningful way punishing) Hungary and Slovakia? No? Then why should Poland not conduct similar policies: remaining the part of the West while maintaining friendly relations with Russia? If Slovaks and Hungarians can, why can't we?

As I said, it depends on the price. If the victorious West means millions of Poles dead and Poland razed to the ground once again, then I suppose I'll take a rain check.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


If only it was so easy, BB. If only.

It's not like we have to tick a box: (A) victorious Russia (B) victorious West, and that's it. There are many shades of grey between and a different option is good for Portugal and different for Poland. Hungary and Slovakia are conducting strongly pro-Russian policies. Are they being invaded by the West because of it? No, but they are safeguarding their interests in case of Russia going full retard.

We have much more to lose in case of the ever-more-likely war with Russia than we have to win in case of Ukrainian "victory" (whatever that means, and which doesn't exclude Polish-Russian or Polish-Ukrainian war anyway). Especially that Ukraine was never friendly towards Poland - they were your pupils, your Waffen-SS boys (they still cherish the tradition!) and today they even refuse to acknowledge the genocide they commited against Poles.

It's not all that black-and-white.

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News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Can anyone answer the question already?

No?

OK, I will give you more time to think. Just don't take too long... until the answer is more than obvious.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Not for me.

Soviet Union under Gorbatchev (1990) admitted responsibility and expressed regret for the executions, and later (2010) Russia did the same.
Putin was the first Russian leader to attend a memorial ceremony at Katyń.

Good enough for me. That Georgian c*nt, Stalin, killed more Russians than Poles.


They paid with the lives of 600,000 soldiers who died kicking nazis out of Poland.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Like in Afghanistan or Ukraine.

Desert Storm is ancient history; different world, different wars.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


We will never see invasions like the one in 1939 again. Way too expensive for today's bankrupt world and way too many young men taking part in them for today's demographically collapsing nations (both Russia and the West).

Half-arsed SMOs is all that we will get, and repelling a half-arsed SMO is not beyond the capabilities of a determined and brave medium-size nation like Poland.


I would tell you what you win but I decided to be nicer to people.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


My point is that if Afghan sheepshaggers could defeat the invaders from both Soviet Union and the USA, then perhaps not all is lost for the rest of us.


No, thank you. You already wrote all you wanted to write here a cuntillion and eight times; no point writing it again for the cuntillion and ninth time.

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Oh, so you're that azzhole who flunked geography.


... and then add Afghanistan. See my point or not yet?

News / Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia? [396]


Growing during peacetime is one thing, Johnny. Properly preparing for war is another.

Poland should already be building Swiss-style territorial defence and train (re-train) adult population for military service. Unfortunately, it's not happening. HIMARSes, Apaches and K2s won't win the war - it is the grey soldier that decides any prolonged conflict. Poland is, to a large extent, a victim of her own success - a G20 economy and practically non-existent unemployment make military service unattractive to majority of suitable men, and it is men in uniform, trained and ready to fight, that Poland needs the most.

Maybe the Slovaks and Hungarians got it right? The USA is not going to invade them, Russia might, so why take any chances?

I am shamelessly bumping the thread because the title question is still valid - do we risk more being allied to Russia or being eternally hostile towards her? Food for thought...

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Onet says 16...

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@Tlum

You're a smart guy.

@Novi

Get a grip FFS

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Perhaps we can celebrate Ukrainian independence day without banderist shouts? Your provocation is obvious and pathetic, Jon.

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Unbelievable.

All these resources, all the oil and gas, all the natural riches...

If only things had gone differently in 1612, America and China would be our faithful vassals today.

Life / Life in Poland - ECONOMY [59]

This year Poland enters G20...



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

... in fact, even if not formally.

No gold or diamonds, no oil or gas - just brains and balls. 😎 😎 😎

News / War propaganda - are we really THAT retarded? [28]


I've been a faithful subscriber since highschool - good recommendation.

The best option is to read from left to right: TP, Przegląd, Do Rzeczy, Najwyższy Czas, Warszawska, Myśl Polska etc. Don't close yourself in any information bubble.

News / War propaganda - are we really THAT retarded? [28]


What's your favourite weekly?

News / War propaganda - are we really THAT retarded? [28]


You are referring to Suvorov's prediction from January 2023.

Life / Polish authors, books & literature. [125]


Liar.

Life / Polish authors, books & literature. [125]


Yeah, right.

I bet there is a Ferdydurke, Ziemia Obiecana, Quo Vadis, and all the other Polish classics bound in leather in your study.

You're not fooling anyone, Ryszardzie.

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]

I bet George W. Bush never suspected that there would be a president in the future that would make him look like a f*cking genius. 😂

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]


I'm afraid that the only sanctions that will happen will be sanctions on Norway if Trump is not given Nobel Peace Prize...

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]


This is not even funny anymore.

I never thought I would say that but the day when Europe and America will have to go their separate ways is fast approaching. For common decency's sake.

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]


Let's stick to facts: Trump said there will be sanctions on Russia if no cease fire is agreed. There is no cease fire. There are no sanctions on Russia. Trump says it was a great meeting - 10 out of 10.

The path for Ukraine to capitulate and give up their lands and aim to join NATO is always open. All they have to do is surrender. But they don't need Trump for that.

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]

Q: what's the difference between Putin and Trump?

A: Putin is a Russian DICtator,
Trump is a Russian DICktaster.

Off-Topic / The agreement in Alaska between the US and Russia. [43]

Polish memes as usual painfully accurate...