News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


A correction? Aka profit-taking.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Yawn. One of my clients who is in the media has to go to Warsaw on Monday to beg for his contract with a new boss at TVP, who of course has been appointed because of his pIS membership.

I suggested it would be a worthwhile round trip just to see the TVP man's face when the contractor tells him to go and **** himself.

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But to make the Wisla navigable is of utmost importance going forward Harry, wouldn't you agree?

Life / I woke up in Poland's Hilton of Drunks after the Juvenalia party. Must I pay the 300zl fine? [49]

In normal economies the police and the authorities don't steal. Because they are being monitored. I refer to Western Europe..... (of course the USA also doesn't apply as a "normal" country here either.)

There would be cameras in that holding place where the poster was - so yes - what happened to him is actionable. Of course, they would simply say that the cameras weren't working - but the software could prove that lie anyway.....

Theft is theft - what would happen it I broke into the locker rooms there, and took 300 Euros from the wallets of those people.

It's the same thing isn't it?

Life / I woke up in Poland's Hilton of Drunks after the Juvenalia party. Must I pay the 300zl fine? [49]


We all hear stories about the "policing' in those drunk tanks. Are they all apocryphal? And it's all very well to say " Don't put yourself in that position...."

While at university I thought it might be a wheez to moon at a passing police car, and got a free night's kip for my pains, a cup of tea in the morning and 30 quid D and D from the magistrate in the morning. All very British and above board.

And my belongings were returned 100 percent prim and proper. Not the case with these thieving bastards evidently. I will take the posters' word over theirs'any day of the week thanks Inpolska:)


Exactly Roger. During communism there were far too many here who simply stared at the ground and said they were powerless and couldn't change anything. And now they seem to think this kind of behaviour should be tolerated.

Mind you a lot of Poles love this concept of ' A short sharp shock". They love a bit of brutality and authoritanism, aka stealing in this particular case.

And we all remember those thousands of people who were jailed simply for riding their cycles in the village when drunk.
Only in Poland:( The Germans have a word for the Poles who perpetrate such outlandish punishment, starting with D and ending in ...koff. Can't think why...:)))

Life / I woke up in Poland's Hilton of Drunks after the Juvenalia party. Must I pay the 300zl fine? [49]


Get somebody to wreck the place? Only joking.

No.

I would pay somebody to wait for them to finish their shift.....................

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Yes - they hijacked everything. I am beginning to understand, after living in this mixed up country for 23 years. All I know is, I could not have pillow talk with a PIS lady :))))

And the labrador would in all likelihood growl anyway ( which would be funny, as he is generally mute as a point of reference)
PS: i agree totally about the vision, but refuse to agree that Thatcher was right on the UK political scene of the time.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


The Polish Thatcher. Without the market policies of course, but a demagogue all the same. I regret not being in the UK for the street parties when Thatcher died but if I outlive this Berkshire Hunt I will hold a very big party, and that's a given.

It was amazing that nobody celebrated the sunglass wearing general's death, but maybe people were tired.

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And that is desperately sad. My own mother died too early, and I always called my wife's (late) mum my second mother in affectionate moments, which she reciprocated. She was a leading Katowice Solidarity activist and was perhaps fortunate not to be interned in Martial Law. But the Kaczyńskis and their ilk and Radio Maria brainwashed her without mercy, just like the communists tried to do before them.

The second generation who can see that reality have at the very least a deep dislike of that distortion of truth and history.
But someone here posted that Poles will never accept political pluralism, and I (very unhappily) nominate him for the past 2015 Polish Forums "In a Nutshell" award.

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Public disobedience? If others don't care, why should we? Anything that weakens this government is worthy.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


..........who states that refugees "bring diseases....." - also to be fair, repeated by Walesa and the present president among others.

Three guesses who spoon fed them that racist nonsense :) Clue, it's those in "authority" who have a spiked statistical probability of buggering boys.

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Kaczynski is as camp as they come. And since you hate gays so much, how is it that he would be immune?

Especially as he is a hateful example of the orientation. Nobody would care about his sexual orientation, but because he is an arrogant and hateful chap, in Britain snide little references to his homosexuality would be all over the tabloids.

And that's a fact. Here, far too much "respect" is afforded these political Berkshire hunts.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


Under-rated guitarist. Never knew he was of Serbian origin. That diminishes him somewhat of course unhappily.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


And all the time the Polish coal trains roll into Gdynia from Silesia............
And even more trains (with higher BTU yielding graded coking coal) roll out from Gdynia..........

My old drinking pals in Katowice are in their forties and get 3400 zl a month net as a face-work pension for the rest of their natural. Not too bad, as it takes a lot of people a lot of effort to earn that much in their pockets for a solid weeks' graft.

And all the while PIS bribed away by promising the miners "full consultation" - whatever that means, when they should be doing a Thatcher on Polish coal mining.

Bloody mad, and guess who picks up the tab.


That is vital, and that the institutions be coerced into lending to undergraduates. At the moment a brilliant student from a poor family cant go to university, because they can't feed themselves. So their ambition is lost to the nation.

What a crazy situation, like pre-war in Britain.

Life / Welcome to winter in Poland! (-19C tomorrow) [64]


Don't like you anymore Roger :( I must look up my mum's recipe - she were a Mancunian :)
Cold but boring as hell here, with tedious Baltic skies and only hot beer and a snoring labrador for company.

Forest won though!:)

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

The ex UK ambassador to Warsaw, Charles Crawford, has written in the Guardian newspaper forums thus:

"When I was UK Ambassador in Warsaw when the PiS-led coalition was in power from 2005-07, I was startled to be sent from No 10 a 'secret' letter to the PM from a senior UK academic familiar with Poland who warned that democracy in Poland was about to be overthrown. Shock!

I replied that it was utter drivel, a completely ignorant or mischievous misreading of what the Kaczynski twins represented and wanted.
I see that many commenters here are again making similarly fevered claims........ "

..............PiS (who have plenty of ex-Solidarity people in their ranks including J Kaczynski himself) tend to think that the 'thick line'".... (of nepotism)...... "was too generous to the former communists and their privileged children, many of whom have done impressively well in keeping senior roles in public and business life and skewing public debate in a leftist direction. They (PiS) want to recalibrate things somewhat so that Poles who do not come from that crafty self-serving communist tradition (or who have been historically disadvantaged) get a better chance. Hence moves now to clean out a range of people from eg the state media and the court system..........................."

Etc etc....

The guy is obviously one of Cameron's goons, and has had one too many bottles of plonk. The ignorant fool makes me ashamed to be British.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]


Although I might have worded my post a little more politely, your statement got me riled. And my in-laws' father didn't live to be 90 or whatever, so congratulations to yours.......... The whole family would have ended up there and dead if the local station master hadn't tipped them off so they could flee.

We have such camps to remind us that we are all the same.
That is why we rightly have the United Nations High Commission for Refugees 1951 Act, that refugees, once they land on this continent, can't be sent back to a war zone. Poles of all people would do well to remember that.

And how does my opinion reflect on your consideration of "My ignorance of life"? You posted an outlandish opinion, albeit often voiced, about a World Heritage site, which is sacrosanct for millions, whether they be Jews, Poles, Germans, Roma etc etc etc etc............................... That's nothing to do with "looking back." That is that generations' lost ones, and you can be sure that Auschwitz will stand as a warning for our age. The same ethnic cleansing happened in Rwanda, Darfur, and Bosnia, and you think that Auschwitz should be demolished?

To be replaced by what? Smart Krakow dormitory town housing developments. Maybe discos?

I refer you to my earlier post. I think you have an ulterior motive here. At the very least you sound like an apologist for these boys' actions.


I totally agee, when schoolchildren go on school curriculum tours. In very bad taste, and the children should not be exposed to such. Adults only.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]


It's called inheritance - and yes, a lot of the British aristo are dim-witted. I am shocked that it is news to you :)


It's pretty dark as far as I can see. But, unlike Kaczynski, I don't think the sun shines up my arse :)))


Palpable nonsense. Ask my father in law and others whose nearest and dearest died there.

The most disrespectful post of the year award. Congratulations.

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Don't know if that is a joke. Here in Poland an inflated price is always put on things. Some light at the end of the tunnel only emerges later after tedious haggling.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]


Yes - although it was a silly mistake made by schoolboys...I made a few stupid mistakes myself as a schoolboy and look where I am now..................

Oh wait............ in cavernous Dougpol Mansions on the windy Baltic in minus 5, with only dog and Budweiser for company....
So I see what you mean.

By that token, the parents are doing what any parent would try to do - protect their child's interests. I was going to say that nobody died - but that would be wholly inappropriate in the circumstances.

Just over zealous schoolboys. That place definitely does have a deep effect on the psyche and once was more than enough. Today, all of us get to leave Auschwitz after a couple of hours, and we must never forget.

I think the Polish authorities are being pedantic here - they should simply log the change of plea, find them guilty in abstentia, and issue a statement that such behaviour will be thelegal responsibility of the school, and then move on.

But Polish lawyers (aka the establishment) have to heat their countryside spoiling villas, so the ridiculous merry-go-round has to turn as you said Dolno.

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What a very silly post Polonius. We know you live in the paranoid States, but even there people poke fun at their politicians. Even in the bars of Moscow, people openly call Putin a ****. My drinking pal is from Moscow and he knows this for fact.

Nothing to see here.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]


Again, bang on.


They were punished, and their names would have been reported in the UK press. This is why daddy wants them exonerated.
Whoever daddy is - money wont help here, and the families are obviously stupid to go back on the acceptance of a caution and fine.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]

Absolutely - but the British moneyed classes are dim-witted stay away parents - and nanny didn't think it was her place to tell Harry how to behave.....

PS people shouldnt be admitted before the age of 17 - first Matura year. Earlier than that, their minds can't take in the gravitas of the location.

News / British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz [45]

theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/30/two-british-teenagers-to-face-auschwitz-theft-trial-says-prosecutor
Cough.

My thread title was " British schoolboys dealt with sensibly by authorities in Oswiecim.."

Typically, it seems that the boys are now going to be prosecuted. Apparently British advisors advised them to change their plea to not guilty to theft, and now the Poles are going to charge them with theft from a war protected site.

They have already been punished, and shamed.

Absolutely pathetic, and the prosecutors need something...... (DISCLAIMER: the word I'm thinking of also starts with an S - but is a colloquial term and not be taken literally)

Law / Prostitution in Poland, is it legal? [24]

How much are the girls asking, and do they have pleasant rooms?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


But they weren't. The interviewer absolutely owned him.

Life / All Things Christmassy in Poland [332]


Mmm - I very much resent this silly extra holiday, because I'm a freelancer and it's restraint of trade.

Travel / How to go to Frankfurt from Poland? [16]

kpc21 - are you a writer? If not - you're in the wrong profession.

The Bielsko Biala chap who started those Polish guidebooks is now a multi-millionaire...... is not you is it? :)

Travel / How to go to Frankfurt from Poland? [16]


No. Berlin - Katowice is the international link. Anyway, from Frankfurt travel to Gorlitz on the Polish border (near Dresden) and then take the Wroclaw train. You can travel the cheapest way by rail ( stopping trains) It will take you a long time though!

Life / All Things Christmassy in Poland [332]


3 days ago :) I agree that America (and the rest of the western world) have it the wrong way round.

In Britain Christmas is over at 12 midnight today :)