News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]


pretty little lies... they're not even sure yet how it's transmitted, it could be airborne in which case... all bets are off.


It's very possible it actually originated in China...

nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health/

One concern is that while the death rate now is very low (if we can trust the Chinese communist authorities, which.... hmmmmmm) concerns remain about recovery. Despite throwing the word 'cured' around too casually apparently a lot of diagnosed cases might have very long lasting or permanent problems... full recovery doesn't seem to be happening.

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]

Goodbye any chance of a reasonable discussion on coronavirus in Poland (or in general) or what could or should be done... the stupid brigade has shown up to derail conversation just like the mods apparently want.

what a hopeless forum this is with the stupid brigade in change....

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]


Not everything is always about the Jews..... that is so narcissistic.


Stupid posters here post stupid things, there's no point engaging with them.

Engage with the issue - the catastrophic incompetence of the Chinese communist party which has the blood of _tens_ of millions of people on its hands already and the low education and bad hygene of traditional Chinese culture.

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]


The origin is China and its lack of hygene and dysfunctional system that punishes those that try to make problems known before they become crises.

Why are you more worried about prejudice than people's lives?

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]


In this case, yes it is.

That doesn't mean people should hate all Chinese people but traditional Chinese lack of hygene over-dependence on shady traditional 'medicine' and weird beliefs about eating weird animals and the communist imposed dysfunction (shooting the messenger is routine so bad news remains hidden until it reaches crisis levels)

Tha'ts all 100% on China and CCP. No one else.

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]


No there isn't..... but it's illuminating that some are more worried about bad thoughts than human lives....

China should have been quarantined at least a month ago....

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Hunters in Poland have to be licensed and part of that is active guardianship of the land and animals, Polish forests are not considered to be meat lockers to exploit...

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


pzlow.pl/

Getting a hunters license isn't that easy - there's also hunting tourism (with hunters from other countries esp Germany and the Netherlands)

Travel / Do we really need a Polish passport to enter Schengen? [8]


Time to do that then (or contact closest consulate/embassy) to do so.

I can't imagine someone with only a US passport not being allowed in Schengen....

Travel / Do we really need a Polish passport to enter Schengen? [8]


If she officially renounced her Polish citizenship then she's not a Polish citizen and doesn't need a Polish or EU passport to visit Poland.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Of course not, but even they undergo low level culture shock and/or denial and trauma at such trivial problems as having to learn a local language or get used to different store hours or have their children learn a different routine in school then what hope do people from radically different cultures have?

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


A long time ago I read that ethno-political movements usually begin with language revival/rejuvenation and academic (re)interpretations of history and cultural activities, like creating a new canon and and then that morphs into a political agenda... (largely what's happened in Catalonia). At one time there were plans for Irish revival / rejuvenation but the Irish movement began with politics (which atrophied the cultural side which has largely been restricted to commodified folklore)

OT (from another thread) Have you seen the Dublin Murder Mysteries (based on Tana French books)? If so, what did you think of it?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Good fences make good neighbors, you can't have countries (or a gigantic federation of regions) without borders.

Poland had no borders for over 100 years and it was awful!


a. that sounds kind of like a threat

b. what trauma has Germany endured that its fertility has fallen off a cliff? WWII and the aftermath didn't sterilize Germans, what did?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Not necessarily bad, but people don't... transplant as easily as the narratives around modern migration would suggest. That goes for professionals as well as economic migrants and refugees. The degree is different but there's always a personal psychological cost.

I find the idea that people can live in Amsterdam, Paris, San Francisco and Berlin without experiencing severe dislocation is kind of absurd. the only way to stay healthy in that situation is to completely ignore anything local and not form any connections to people....

The idea that governments should be bartering about how many people should be shipped to this or that country in accordance with some diplomatic agreement is horrible and repulsive - the neoliberal mentality (which ultimately degrades human subjectivity) at its moral and ethical dead end...

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


You're talking about backpackers

Next week, move to Mongolia for two years and then we'll talk when you get back.


For a couple of years I casually followed expat sites in places like the Netherlands and Scandinavia... believe me, there was plenty of trauma (from international professional types).


But maybe the next wave will be better. The Aegean route is heating up again and there a lot of product on Lesvos... opening bids?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


This talk of human beings as widgets to be moved around to improve statistics is chilling and repulsive.

Humans are complex beings who grow accustomed to clime and culture and moving to a dramatically different place is going to instill trauma, even if moving is what a person wants.

This is why Merkel's blunder was such a failure. Real refugees are, by definition, damaged people who need therapy and rehabilitation, they're not potential workers who just need integration classes.

Stop talking about human beings as if they were potatoes to be shipped where the market needs them!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


aka neoliberalism aka the system everybody everywhere else is thoroughly sick of....


What did I write that isn't true?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Especially real Polish catholics, catholicism is a univeralist religion that stresses the unity of humankind and thus it strives to make itself available to all who might want it. This is also why Poland is relatively accepting (compared to other countries in the region) of genetically non-Polish people joining the society.

Konfederacja seems to come from a more Eastern orthodox view where religions belong to some groups and ethnic origin boxes people in to narrow groups for their whole lives (see nationality laws in the CCCP). It also ties into Eastern ideas of hierarchy and existential inequality while RCatholicism (despite the hierarchy in the church) is more aimed at stressed equality.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


And that's why she still has it. If she actually descended to the level of daily policy her symbolic powers would evaporate very quickly....

Konfederacja has decided to sit out the presidential election by nominating a large infant with no base of support (they're de facto supporting the also infantile Duda who was shaking his tiny widdle fists in fury the other day during a tantrum about foweign wanguages)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Rico violations!


What do you know about the Sacklers? Responsible for the deaths of thousands.... why are they free when small time pot sellers are put behind bars?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


In which you never know how much something will cost and even if you have insurance out the wazoo you spend massive amounts of time doing insane paperwork.

Bonus: Many doctors don't accept cash and will only work through the insane insurance system.

And, it's essentially a criminal enterprise (and the pharmaceutical industry is even worse)

newser.com/story/284712/she-had-a-routine-throat-swab-the-bill-was-28k.html

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Poland showed an amazing amount of solidarity in explaining to Germany just how dysfunctional its migration policy was!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


See? You can't maintain solidarity (say support funds) and local autonomy (which will often be corrupt).

It's the foreign aid problem all over again.


so would pensions be tied to absolute amounts or percentage of average national income... Portuguese retirees receiving the same monetary amounts as Swedes.... doable?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


The EU has goals that are self-contradictory.

It is impossible to integrate manufacturing, finance and service economies and to maintain solidarity at the same time. It wants to integrate without assimilating.

Historical and cultural differences result in different types of economies. It's possible to create conditions where different kinds of economies interact. It's not possible to create a single economic system without interfering in culture (and maybe rewriting history).

Making Italians accept German economic values is impossible unless you turn them into southern Germans.... (not an overt goal that Italians are liable to welcome).

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


They've given up on the idea that voting can change anything, so might as well vote for someone your boss likes....

Again, you're arguing right and wrong and I'm saying in terms of a contradiction that's irrelevant. Unless a majority of Greeks come to regard Germany as right and austerity as a good thing imposed by a loving authority figure with their best interests in mind (in other words, self-colonization) then.... the contradiction still exists.

And I'm using Greece as an example. This is also true of Spain and Italy... much bigger countries (not to mention France - where anti-EU feeling is almost as high as in the UK!)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Let's say Germany is right. There is still a contradiction if most Greeks disagree.

Let's say Greece is right. There is still a contradiction if most Germans disagree.

It doesn't matter who's wrong or right in terms of the existence of a contradiction.

The type of integration that EU officials want can only genuinely come into being over decades and decades and not be rushed. Trying to accelerate integration beyond natural speeds is a recipe for disaster, but EU officials only know one speed: FASTER!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


and


you're pretty much making my point, all the solidarity that Greece has received and its economy is still in the toilet and it's still hemorraghing young people with youth unemployment around 30%

Germany feels self-righteous and Greece is still poorer than it was before the euro.... a contradiction.

It doesn't even matter who's right and who's wrong, it's that kind of contradiction that will eventually (not in the next few years but eventually) tear the EU apart or simply turn it into a de facto German economic crypto-empire.

Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

A problem for non-slavic foreigners in Poland is that now at the beginning there's often no compulsion to use Polish and many become accustomed to people speaking English. If a person stays though eventually people get sick of having to speak a foreign language with someone who's been in the country for five or more years and don't realize how the person was trained to not use Polish at the beginning (a critical time).

I had an Irish colleague who spent three or so years in German and became fluent because... he had to. Everyone fell over themselves to "help" him in the initial adjustment phase in Poland and his Polish (after five or so years) remained crap and he assumed the language wasn't worth learning (because that's what everybody inadvertently had told him at the beginning).

and of course it's not always easy to tell if someone is a short term vs long term visitor...