News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Strzelec35


To make peace with them? To have any chance of governing the place? Only with the intent of wiping the locals 100% like the Nazi-Germans planned on doing in former Prussian controlled areas with Poles if they had won that it would work. And that is if the world would accept it as a new international norm or not.

By basically removing the Soviets only chance for a credible translator between the Polish society and the Soviet leadership (thinking that default-general rules apply to Polish society, relativism -.-)

They shot themselves in the foot. Outside forces tend to think that those governing Poland are there to protect Polish society from outside influence. I tell you... it's Polish elites job to keep em happy and satisfied. As to save the world from them :)

Until you understand that, you will allways misunderstand Poles

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka


Quote had to be shortened
Thanks... An Incel is an involuntary celibate (He got no chance with women) I am a voulentary celibate. After I understood people in general, that people test each other and why+that people were not afraid of me, so they basically thought they could do whatever they want. (I tried to calm people down and not give the impression og being dangerous as I had decided to counter-act very strongly against anger so not to act with physical violence uncontrollably. So I avoided threatening people a.k.a testing through with physical force. So I tested unconciously through by giving an opposite option of what somebody was doing. People felt or thought that I had a hard time saying «No» too thinking me as weak. While in reality I had a very polite upbringing, having to be gentle+kind etc. honoring my heritage etc.

Which people around me had no clue about or were simply oblivious towards.

After I came to that realization, I was a bit insulted that thought of me as weak or having no reason to fear me. But I calmed down, and got into a mode of "I will show them all what I am capable of, and everyone who have ever underestimated me"

Then I learned about emotional intelligence, how women operate. (What they do, what they say and why, why they forms groups as teens and throw each other out of it. Then reinviting etc)

I also shortened down every addiction I had to only wanting God in my life (filling myself with as much love as possible, as not to deteriorate after such realizations cause I realized I felt a bit bitter. And I didn't want to end up as a bitter man.

Found purpose and avoid as much interactions with women as I possibly can, stopped dating, focusing on my career. Basically limiting my contacts to closest friends+family and focusing on my career in the army.

So yeah I post here from time to time to have social interactions. As I have it limited as much as possible, knowing that meeting any of you from here is rather a low chance. I post rather freely and open.

Before I was, one can say addicted to the thought of having sex with women. Now I rather not think about it, the arousel still exists. But the motivation/interest is basically non-existent anymore. I understand gay people more and more to some degree, hopefully I won't turn gay tho

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka
Allright

The problem with incels (through our history) is that their lack of a partner tend to make them seek other men in the same situation (think of a Lion pack basically) and create some obscure idea that their willing to die and fight for (basically having nothing else to do, they seek purpose). Then calms down after that movement possibly grows and changes the narrative in society (Think Nazi's in Germany 1920-1940)

Young men without prospects (not only in courting) make one of the most unstable and volatile elements in a society. How horrible as it sounds, America has been lucky so far. Imagine them organizing rallies and conspiring to overthrow society upside down, from pure revenge.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka
I wrongly assumed you would want to be conscious about a man's needs. Nevermind

Why would you think you would have to be not yourself? Putting an effort, is not being yourself?

Well tell me this then, which man would you prefer (theoretically)

One who would declare that he loves you, and only wants you infront of all his&your relations.

Or just you and living in a flat together

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka
Hook up's I mean one night stands,

Also I wouldn't be telling everyone you don't see marriage as Holy (religions/believer or not)

Men value loyalty a lot. Telling everyone around you that promising loyalty towards one another in a social setting... isn't...

I hope you understand what I mean

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka
Demographics are dropping, divorces increase (more children without a mother or father role model or even lack of both)
Hook up culture increases, marriage is seen as less and less holy.

It's bad

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Lyzko
I understood it, as performing it was meaningless (Novichok pointed out from a very cynical point of view that it wasn't)

While I think it was not only foolish, but downright shooting yourself in the foot. Otherwise the Soviet Union would have over 20k military officers/personnel in fighting the Germans during 1941-1945. But would also have chance of having a somewhat more docile Polish population and giving the opposition a hard time countering Polish officers serving beside red army units. (Actual Polish officers, who were also pre-war government connected)

But having them executed at Katyń, gave no hope for any Pole to have any good opinion or relationship with the Kremlin. It also got worse after the Warsaw uprising despite the people's army attempt at helping it (Berlingowcy) cause the red army did not contribute, even when it was within their means to do so. (No arty support or landing rights at airports for American/British airplanes)

The relations soured so much, that even today suspicions are high among basically all political parties towards Kremlin. It's basically, if one wants a n sovereign independent Poland. One can't and shouldn't contact the Kremlin cause it would be senseless

@Crow
Spreading love is quite different, from spreading political influence. Also the political influence your pointing towards. Very much ended after the religious wars in Germany. The Vatican had some influence within Austria-Hungary (on the Austrian emperor, no doubt)

But saying that the Vatican had political leverage after 1918 is rather ignorant

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@jon357
I know that, thank you. Still it insults me more then anything else. If it wasn't for my cold and calm nature I would had a tantrum every time I was accused of it.

If the Polish left were sincere, I could call it patriotic but it stinks with Targowica and a way of simply scoring a political point.

Most political parties in Poland are also very short sighted with the EU. While I see it as a long-term possibility which was never possible to imagine in history

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@Novichok
Yeah, but it would be riling up Polish leftists crying to Brussels calling us fascists and giving Poland more trouble

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@jon357
I wouldn't be surprised either to be honest, but yeah. Hopefully most of the right-wing posts from American users aren't confused with Polish-Right wingers...

It would just give Poland more headiches

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Lenka
I actually wonder about that myself, can't come up with any terms I have heard right now on the spot.

Maybe "low-grade women"
Haven't used it myself of course (even tho that swearing one mentioned here on the forum could have given me nightmares)

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@mafketis
There used to be a strict hierarchy (feudalism), where the elite basically told all women to buzz off the top-males.

Now that women got brainwashed into thinking there actually is like a free picking of top notch males, they become unhappy and 60% males get desperate. Then they tell me (the 60%) that I don't count anymore... right...

Well off you go then! Let's see how that works for you all! I'll improve my life, get a career and stay out of politics.

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Novichok
What other states did you think I was thinking about? Clearly I was thinking about NATO-allies, which yes. Also includes Germany and the U.S.A

How trustworthy allies they are, is a different matter. Time will tell the next months

@Vlad1234
You surprise me (in a positive manner)

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@strzelec35
If they had been teaching you critical thinking instead of brainwashing, you would actually understand "pis or right polish dogma or religion"

Instead your raving like a toddler on an internet-forum crying for attention and sympathy for not understanding Polish culture or norms in Polish society and expect norms you have experienced in the states to be universal (which is bullocks by the way)

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@strzelec35
Why am I surprised that a redneck has been brainwashed so much by the American school system he doesn't even make sense anymore to me.

@Novichok
Last time I checked, it has been U.S involvement in those cases you contribute to NATO.

I can understand Serbians (and any ex-Yugoslav) having a grudge against NATO. So far they haven't invaded or bombed Russia

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@Novichok
Start acting like a great power, and not frantic teenager with the need of a gigantic tube on tractor belts to show off.

If their able to do that, nobody is going to ask for any American soldiers

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@strzelec35
What I expect from Russia, and what I wish they had done/do are two separate things.

I expect them to continue their policy of conquest, or in current situation re-conquest of past Soviet states. Then Warsaw Pact members, as they felt cheated during the 90's

What I would hope for them to is, build up economically. Strengthen their military and build ties with all the slavic states while, counter-acting U.S.A and China schemes.

So far they have only been taking the bait and creating division among Slavs (Ukraine) and forcing central-eastern Europe in to seeking non-slavic alliances.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

@jon357
Which is quite sad, as I am rather negative towards anything that hasn't been in nature the last 2 000 years. So I very much prefer meat, fish, eggs, butter, broccoli, coil flower and nuts (almond, macadamia)

The more people put sugar or carbs in to meat the worse it will be for all of us sadly

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

@jon357
Russian patriotic-zeal won't allow a "rozbicie dzielnicowe" faster it will be a civil war.

A decentralized Russia would be quite functional for the Russian Federation cause of vast distances and reducing the need for communication with the top for every little thing in their lives.

Unfortunately that would need trust, responsibility and co-operation without having to use fists or threat of it with every little thing. So far, I have seen that to be quite impossible so far as their "macho-gorilla" approach seem to be quite popular there.

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]

Polish-Russian relations are going to be vital during the next 20-30 years. When Putin dies, and a more liberal government (read less authoritarian, nothing to do about Democratic Party in the U.S.A)

Takes place. Then having good relations with said government can increase trade and exchange of culture. Not to say the least, possible increase in energy deals. Gas etc

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Lyzko
Basically yes,
With a hunter mentality it's either pray or hunter (wolf vs sheep)

One forgets tho there is a combined mentality of a shepherds dog. Both prey AND hunter.

Poland has had both, one more then the other lately.

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

And THAT Rome was defeated. There are no Roman emperors today and the very essence of Rome was brute violence. Very animalistic, that was defeated. There is Italy, not Rome, there is the Vatican in Rome (capitol of Italy) but not Rome itself. The one of the ancient times was defeated (thankfully), other states tried to copy-cat it. With failure

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Crow
Can't you blame your own misfortune on yourself? Are you so powerless that you blame the church given to us all by Jesus Christ? Who is stopping you? Live your life! Don't destroy the life of others

News / New "Polish memorial" in Berlin [316]

@Novichok
Why you think Germans have good relations with Slavs in general now compared to, let's say 200 years ago. One would think that Poles and Russians wouldn't leave a single German alive after what the NSDAP cooked up during the war. To the point of East-Prussia and most eastern populated provinces of Germans ran with the highest speed possible to escape the horde of the red army. Yet, Germans survived and even had a communist state.

I got a lot of ammunition to use against communists, Russians too. But treating Germans unfairly isn't one of them. Especially reading your text, sounds more fitting for to have been a member of NSDAP

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@Novichok
Around 100.000 I think, long time I read about it tho. Don't think there was conscription in Poland at the time, but citizens were called in to service non the less. I haven't studied it too close to be 100% sure

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@Poloniusz
The amount of Hebrews in Europe at the time was so minuscule that it was fairly easy for the German government to track every single one of them basically. Not only that, few of them were organized or even remotely concerned or interested in Poland unless the country they were living in stated something about it. Their main concern was fitting in and created any attention about themselves, especially in 1934-1945 German controlled areas. Then it was the priority of building Israel.

Anyone being able to share any opinion about anything about Poland, it was the Hebrew diaspora in U.S.A and at the time it had been heavily invested in creating tensions with Poland for the sake of making Polish Hebrews leave Poland and build Israel. So a lot of efforts were made to portray every possible incident between Poles and Hebrews to be worse then it actually was to increase number of emigrees to Israel (which they wanted to settle and build)

A good example was the Polish police harshly handling an illegal gathering of Orthodox Hebrews in 1920's Poland. (It was wartime and public gatherings were strictly reduced, as to counter communist activities)

After that incident it was blown all over the world about Poland performing a "pogrom" on Hebrews. Soon after American public after being strongly in favor of supporting the creation of Poland withdrew their support towards Poland and isolated herself from Europe.

Poland was basically seen as a smaller version of a Russian Tsarist-state by everyone not being Polish after that.

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@Novichok
Cause he is a human being, and I shall see him as one. As long as he wishes to talk (in this case write) I will treat him as one.

Love is the choice I made, even for those who consider me their enemies. As long as they don't force me to shoot at them, I will chose dialogue

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@jon357
Not allways, I remember seeing an documentary of U.S polarization. There was a lot more cross party co-operation in the U.S congress in the past.

Now, especially with the Trump impeachment it's quite easily spotted. Faction vs faction, few acting for the best of the country, easily pushed to the side. Extremist views growing etc, branding an opposing side an extreme version of the opponent their meet etc

Thankfully, Germany is now more democratically operating then ever. Trading and co-operating with her neighbors, not having to fear invasion from neither France or Poland.

Austria reduced to a minor state, and only state that has any potential to endanger Poland is the Russian Federation, the most democratically governed form of Russia in history. So Poland's greatest goal is to reduce Russia's willingness to invade states in general (especially Poland) and create as much communication and contact with everyday Russians, trade and share culture.

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@jon357
In an ideal, loving peaceful world yes. But with the polarization in the U.S it's quite difficoult. A lot of journalists will use this for sensationalism and politicians for political coin in their own country. Poland has very few allies abroad, and a lot of issues to solve. Thankfully less then in 1918 or 1989, still a lot to do

History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

@jon357
Cause for many (on this forum to) is to prove/show ones loyalty&allegiance. Especially in a situation seen as an attack. What you see as lawful criticism , many Poles see as political subterfuge. Which is why it should be discussed internally, you even imagining Poland capable of such sinister governance creates hostility from the get go. Because your taking a relativistic stance on this