Law / Registering for military service in Poland. Is it mandatory? [34]

@johnny_reb
Not as far as I know, I think there is an internet service aveliable for the military about ones criminal record. So it seems they have access to all PESEL holders, but that's only speculation from my side.

So unless you volunteer for służba przygotowawcza, you are not on the list of reserves.

Law / Registering for military service in Poland. Is it mandatory? [34]

@johnny_reb
You get called in to get a military book at the age of 18. It used to be conscription earlier (remnant of PRL) now it is for volunteers. An internet site has been launched to easily and fast inform of interest. Then you get a date to meet up at ones local recruitment center and deliver required information etc

History / Pre-war or today's Poland? [50]

@jon357
That's because there is perspective of why Poland-Lithuania fell: to strong authoritarian regimes.
Which is why a more collective approach as been a goal in Poland. While at the same time ignoring the short-longevity and internal problems of authoritarian regimes post ww1 era.

No matter what system you have, or how good troops you have. One can't win a fight vs 3 great powers in Europe alone, at the same time

History / Sin of omission against Poland (Uprising ignored by Britannica) [24]

The Polish uprising should be mentioned as worldly important as the event set off the start of the Cold War relationship between the Soviet Union and the west (U.K&U.S.A)

The Soviet leadership saw the uprising as an western plot and thought that there also was sent Polish paratroopers by the U.K into Warsaw (It was the very point of it's existence, but used in Market Garden instead)

Poland remained a sore point of the Cold War conflict, a nation which clearly saw itself in the western "camp" but, under the yoke of the Soviet Union.

If anybody says the Warsaw uprising was insignificant to the world, it's most likely cause the person doesn't want to touch the topic of the Cold War. It was basically a test of the Soviet Union's leadership and showed abundantly clear it wasn't for "the people" and was more interested in plotting

Love / Must go to confession before the wedding in Poland? [20]

@Novichok
I see, continuation of this topic by me seem to not lead anywhere. A was a bit too optimistic.

You don't need to concern yourself Novichok, I am quite allright.

Believe it or not. I just hope I can worry less about you and @Strzelec35

Love / Must go to confession before the wedding in Poland? [20]

@Novichok
You are over stepping your boundaries, I would be careful if I were you. You are playing with fire

Since it's your business, I would do some cleaning before opening the shop again. People do tend to be superficial and look at your actions more then the words itself

As for the topic at hand: Confession is a Good way to lift your burdains, especially if you want the allmighty to hear you in a sincere and honest way

History / Polish nobility - what is the status of princes and aristocrats in modern Poland? [33]

@Novichok
Right about what excactly?

@pawian
I can hardly imagine HIM being one or having aristocratic heritage dear pawian

@jon357
It doesn't have to be regulated, too much paperwork. Especially as it doesn't give any legal advantages. Since the partition of Poland it has been quite problematic to adress it. Most noble families have a clue about the requirements

History / Polish nobility - what is the status of princes and aristocrats in modern Poland? [33]

@Novichok
In the by gone era the supporters of a king or somebody claiming a throne, after conquering lands redistributed a lot of land to their loyal supporters. These supporters gained these lands and governed them on behalf of the ruler, later on one got nobled or knighted by the king for achievements (loyal service, scientific discovery or on the field of battle) this status came useally with a privilege and connections (most lucrative were connections with the royal court)

Privileges included right to vote, less taxation or exempted from it and military service (quite similar privileges as a modern state citizen nowadays)

As there are less royal rulers and nobility around, the chance of becoming one grows slimmer by the day, there are different traditions of enoblement from country to country.

While most countries had a hierarchy of titles showing the amount of land one had and status, other countries saw upon titled nobility as foreign (Hrabia is an example of an aristocratic title with foreign background, useally considered to be bought for money in the Austrian partition)

Nowadays nobility doesn't give any special privileges, except in U.K with the House of Lords. It's only a lifestyle and tradition that is left, unless the family hasn't lost it's estates, then it's that too

History / Polish nobility - what is the status of princes and aristocrats in modern Poland? [33]

@Novichok
This was at a time when photographs became a novelty so: Of course not, ones identity papers did not include any pictures.

Law / Middle name change in Poland. "Van" or "Von"? I got a double passport (Polish/French). [6]

"Von" was a requirement to add to ones surname if you had an aristocratic background in Germany (late 1800?) I am pretty sure it was for the families that had German nobility, even tho all nobles regardless of nationality/culture had to follow Prussia's/Germans heraldic laws

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Lenka
I read the title and presumed too much then

About kids, I would very much prefer to raise them as much as possible in a family (me+a women)

I just don't see it realistic as women tend to issue divorce papers majorly and I am for monogamy, I just have rather grim view of my future partnership with a women. I don't seek a short relationship with several break ups and divorces. If marriage ain't sacred. I just lose interest, not cause I need some legal barrier cause I could think she wants get away as soon as possible, but rather I wouldn't want to bond with someone who see it as trivial or merely a social expectation

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Lenka
Traditional gender roles in a household cut short:
Men: Fixing something broken (material), paying the bills, having professional contacts through their job or spare time activities.
Women: Keeping household clean (dust cleaning/washing), cooking food taking, care of children and having social circles locally with other women to update the entire family of the situation locally.

1. I am fully able to vacuum clean by myself (done so a lot as a kid, also throwing out trash... Not a big deal) washing I got still a lot to learn, there are YouTube videos on that so that so not much of a barrier.

2. I have the last few years focused on my eating habits and I prefer that I cook/make the meal myself as I will know what I eat. Not going to gamble away my health for the sake of somebody's taste sensitivities.

3. Even if I did have kids, there are kindergarten, school etc. most kids don't require that much maintenance like in the past when it came to watching them as parents. The effort required now is more to listen and being there for them, which I can easily do. Kids love me so it ain't a problem.

4. We got newspapers nowadays and female co-workers so we get the information we need anyways. So why even bother.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

By being more assertive and demanding more while self bringing less to the table during negotiations... I don't know what ones call it, I myself demand more of myself now and have a hard time finding any women offering enough for me compared to how much I am able to offer now and in the future to her.

I had a very open mind about dating and meeting women, now I prefer to focus on myself as I have become rather pessimistic about meeting somebody I will be able to bond with from the opposite sex.

So in my instance (and possibly other men aswell) you can talk all you want about men not doing their share. I'll do my own share (the 100% share) on my own terms if it's so difficult for women to negotiate.

Life / What do Polish people talk about? [56]

@pawian
That is when hosting a meal (The hosts rules apply) and hospitality seems to be far greater trait shared across local variations. So hospitality is a far more cultural/national trait then local culture (what food to eat/how to drive/Warsaw vs Kraków differences)

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Novichok
I have it opposite in fact: I do not recognize power (as one can't be more powerful then the almighty, so in the grand scale of things we are quite the small rocks of a mountain, either on top or near the foundation of the mountain, still rocks)

While somebody having the knowledge and experience naturally has authority in their "specialty"
Wether somebody specializes one form or multiple ways of communication (oral, written or body-language) their knowledge doesn't become less or more important.

Are you afraid of local religious extremists or a large religious institution dictating your or someone close to you ways of living?

Just curious

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Novichok
I do wonder about that stance and how it is defended when talked about sense of community and how it should be, a religious community should communicate. Should it not? Is one of one body or not?

Life / What do Polish people talk about? [56]

@Fredde
1. You are basically complaining that Poles "overcommunicate" compared to how much Swedes communicate (newsflash Scandinavians in general communicate very little)

2. Yeah Poles are also far more emotional and burst it out by screaming swear words (the lower the social position, the higher frequency of swearing)

3. Most Poles are not raised in the same sense of community like Scandinavians, it's a cultural gap. While Poles tend to have a tremendously high degree of self consciousness about their own needs, others needs need to be stated. Otherwise it will be ignored, Polish society has become well accustomed to a plural thought where there is no guarantee of an other persons habits are the same as ones own. While Scandinavian society's are more accustomed to a set of rules that everyone needs to follow in a much higher degree.

4. Fight your dragons and guard your treasures! :)
There is a Polish saying: "Don't sleep or they will rob you"
There is no excuse to not be responsible for yourself! :)

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

@Lenka
An argument is totally fine to have between men and women. Both just need to know how to do it in, and if it isn't handled well, then atleast inside the confinement of their own homes.

I used to hate conflict as I saw it as an disturbance to the status quo, which I appreciate most often as it is peace and quiet (I used to be pretty oblivious to passive-aggressive attitude from people and couldn't pick up any hints of problems/conflicts with other people)

Now I know from experience that conflicts need to be resolved as soon as possible before they grow too large to handle.

Difference is hiding something under the rug in a social setting as to handle it privately compared to hiding things/feelings/thoughts constantly

Shy vs Open in ones own company
Hiding inproperly vs hiding it properly

Life / Territorials - Polish National Guard [57]

@Atch
Poland will be full of surprises for you it seems :)

Life / Territorials - Polish National Guard [57]

@Atch
You got some reading to do about Polish Boy Scouts then Atch :)
Lwów eaglets, Boy Scouts during Polish-Soviet war, 1939 versus the Germans

They certainly aren't your regular wanna be nice little boys only club

Life / Territorials - Polish National Guard [57]

@Paulina
I have been considering the mechanized infantry, even more when I heard recently that the 12th mechanized infantry brigade has a lot of experience co-operating with U.S forces. My English skills would be well used in such a unit.

Ideally I would like to work for an military attaché at an embassy (one can dream right?)
More realistically I see myself in the mechanized infantry as tank support

I haven't considered being a Sniper, as I expect one needs Hawk like vision to do so. My eye sight is rather good now, but certainly not at the level required to be a sniper

Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

@Novichok
I would recommend you look up KETO

There are no essentials carbohydrates, just cause people are unable to or don't know how to open the flow use of their fat storage. Doesn't mean the fat itself is bad. Quite the opposite, body runs quite better on fat vs carbohydrates in my experience

It's not without reason why the body stores fat, and even turns carbohydrates in to fat for storage. It's just better fuel

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]

@Novichok
Yes Monday is a lot better
I prefer to have my sundays for rest and not online battles

When you were quite condescending about patriots, I took that as willful baiting I couldn't ignore.

You may thought I was mentally in a bar... and suggest for me to enter a courtroom... I was mentally at a classroom where I eventually sighed over his possibility of learning something.

Winning arguments I find quite shortsighted and downright senseless, it's when we move forward (actual progress) with our knowledge and information that I aspire to.

If anyone accuses me of rascism I automatically know he/she doesn't know me, or isn't interested in knowing me as I take that as a grave error on their part. Me wanting to share information with such an individual gets drastically altered

History / How a Slovak poet described Poland four centuries ago [6]

That's quite old news...
doesn't change the fact the Slovakians aren't interested in being under Poland or Hungary

Life / To Poles: some food for thought [31]


Allright, you may feel sucessful as you have baited me. It made me rather unhappy you made that comment yesterday as it was sunday, but alas I did suceed in keeping my temper until this morning. Walked my dog, making some cofee... You should feel honored, I even decided to write on post on the computer which I rarely do nowadays as I most often just reply on my cellphone on the go wherever I am. Hope you are pleased...


1. The complaint is noted and I am reading your plea, you can thank dear pawian for that as he brought back the thread (I do like old threads being used again)

2. Get contact with more Poles, start going to church again. Talk it out with a priest is my best advice.
3. Oh yes you do actually as you wrote it in English, not in Polish as quite a bunch of the world is able to read this you are adding the words of bullets towards her heart... So save it as you are going to need it.

4. I am intelligent enough to understand that this is a general rant about people misbeheaving in general, especially if they aren't intelligent enough to understand that other people will view one quite negatively by bad behaviour and what the possible consequences might be. You are sadly part of that group in one way or another as I mentioned earlier in my post.


Again when you think "nation" you are talking about all Poles, wether they allow it, ignore it or don't correct it or simply think it that way. The amount of generalisation you are making cause of Poles reputation abroad is quite anouying and creates a larger huge distaste of you. So to me, you are basically arguing like a lawyer.

Rascism... There are many ways as to look at rascism. The one I understand you are talking about is generally xenophobia, one only has to pick up a history book as to why Poles can be quite.... wary of ANY foreigners! This again shows the likeliness of you being a Pole diminishes further...

Rascism's origin stems from Darwin's thoughts about evolution and the concept change of "Man being made by God directly" to either "Man being made by God inderectly" or "Man coming from animals without God in the picture". Out of this thought came the worst possible versions of ideologies which based their societies on the thought of organising it without religion or directly abusing it for the purposes of political power (Soviet Union and Nazi Germany are the most known examples)

Which is again a tactic used by left side of the political spectrum, the further extreme one is the more often it's heard from a leftwinger about rascism. Which is a paradox when the leftwinger isn't a believer since the thought he/she is pushing is a result of rascism itself actually. Food for thought and possible comedy for others.

I am not going to divulge in to the topic too much as it is rather disturbing


Again... Pick up a history book. Doesn't have to be university level, teenager schools should be more then adequate enough. I suggest starting to learn Polish aswell, it would give you insight in to the mentality of the People living in those times. It's rather ambitious but, who knows? Maybe you will.


That has a lot to do with several factors:
1. We as Poles in general (humans in generals too, it's just... a bit more overstimulated among Poles for some reason) are quite hypocondric, you only need to watch commercials on the TV and know a Polish family or look how kids are dressed for winter to know that. Getting cold or sick is something to take very serriously. Which also explains PiS's ability to come up with authoritiarian meassures in a rather Liberty driven society as health issues are a real concern in Poland to a much larger degree then other places. (How it's organised economically and politically we can rather please discuss in another thread)

2. Any factor of not knowing about a persons background is frightening for any human being, Poles know what to expect from a German, Russian, Ukrainian or other Poles! Tell him to talk to a person from another continent which Poland has never been in (as a state, not as in the form of diplomats) and most Poles wouldn't even have a clue as to which language to start talking in! In most cases Poles tend to be quite careful with the use of english and don't feel sure enough in using it. I was lucky growing up with several languages, so I don't have this problem. It's still real non-the less.

3. During the aftermatch of World war 2, cause of political situation and general civil war. The period after 1953 was heavily focused on having the Nazi-Germans (Germans also in general as the dictator of that regime was elected, so plenty of Poles lay the blame on the population aswell. Not only the Nazi-fringe) to stableize the internal factors which were quite volatile, even for Poland to be. The political regimes used the anti-Nazi Germans card as heavily as they could. It was seen as positive by Moscow and by larger part of the Polish public for obvious reason (one only has to know about the horrors of world war 2) not only that it also diverged away from problems with the political establishment itself but, also it's negative ties to Moscow and the enforced chains that Poles were placed under. In that way, Poles were brainfed socialism and communist theory in school on a daily basis. Then spoon fed Nazi-German behaviour from the entertainment industry and everything related to "German" behaviour as an enemy, one only had to hate the communist regime a bit too much to start copying this negatively presented image of an enemy to **** of the chainholders. Talking about, discussing Polish political opposition wether it was peaceful or militant were at first banned, then sensured and liberalised step by step as not to anger or worsen relations with Moscow. This push and tug "tactic" in the Polish society drove finally to the situation of 1989, where plenty of political parties either felt left out or cheated in the new dealing of cards. The whole mess we are in now in Poland is about that deal, some fight for it to be preserved out of fear of the possible consequences and instability while other aren't able to withhold themselves any further from ignoring the situation.

4. Also most people don't have time to think too much about all this or dig in to themselves cause of a busy life, expecting people to be perfect in every part of their life is quite... I don't know?


Again, it's about the level of English and being put down by our neighbour states that were of the opinion that there is too much chaos so order had to be restored. It's a big middle finger to those past opressors, behaving chaotically even abroad. Also I would blame human psychology in this situation far more then anything about Polish nationality.


What on earth are you writing about? You clearly haven't lived in Poland buddy


Oh I see, let's say what you call progress... I call regress
What you call progress: Liberty without consequences and a life full of rights and privliedges (Wake up buddy, you sound pampered and spoiled)
What I call progress: Being able to grow and improve while understanding the responsibilities and burden of the liberties that have been earned and fought for by our ancestors (biological or/and spiritual)

The Polish nobility lived a life of an utterly spoiled life and no concern for the future, you should trust people being people. Especially your enemies being the enemies they are. Grow up

As to your arguments:
1. Islam is heavily based on authority and subjecation, your willingness to debate about inviting people who were raised up by this way of life makes you comical at best.

2. again rights, I am against harassment. If the company you work for allow such practices, there isn't something wrong with the law. It's something wrong with the workplace...

3. Shaming tactics are frankly quite effective and a lot better then other possible options I can think of. How would you want people to behave towards unwanted behaviour? Beheadings? Stoning? Again, this makes it a bit of a parody comparing it to your argument nr. 1

4. Nobody is treating women as property, if women were treated as property... They would be slaves, with a number on them ordered to be sent to the man who wishes for her then thrown away and tortured publically with no fear of punishment. Read up on how ancient Rome worked and you might learn how it was when humans were ACTUALLY treated as commodities...

5. I don't know who you are, but I can hardly think of any Poles acting as if he is a "progressive" in the way you think it is. Sounds a lot more like something you yourself are

Honestly, I planned on responding to every bit of his post, but I just woke up spent two hours writing this thing. This is a waste of time for me right now. Hope to be able to write more and come back to this at a later date. Going to drink up my coffeee and be off with my day.

It sickens me to read this and I need a break to bring my health back up, toxicity is bad for your health I tell you

I had to shorten the quoting, hopefully people are able to understand which parts I quoted

Polonia / Behaviour of Polish migrant workers in the Netherlands [43]

@Shaapje
Newly arrived Polish workers, or those that have been long in the Netherlands but, stick to their own most likely have no knowledge or understanding of Dutch social norms.

If you treat them badly and you are negative towards them, they will mirror your behavior and give it back to you. As pointed out by other posters, they are used to being treated badly in Poland by shopkeepers.

Also, Polish society is far more hierarchical then Dutch society. Don't expect similar or identical behavior from rural Poles vs urban Poles, uneducated Poles vs educated Poles

Rural Poles can be far more conflict driven then rural Dutch is my guess, ask yourself if conflict or stable calm communication is the norm where you grew up

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

I love cabbage!
Been using cabbage with meat to make some form of gołąbki in east-Asian style as I found the recipe from a YouTube video.

I prepare the cabbage by boiling it first in like 10-15 minutes to make it soft, while I do that I crush open an egg, mix the egg with meat, pepper (pieprz not chili or paprika) and pre-chopped tomatoes (instead of soy sauce) mix it together and form cabbage dumplings which I steam cook in 25 minutes.

Put sea salt on them and Dijon mustard after it's prepared so that it won't be too dry cause of the sea salt.

Travel / Krakow is better than Prague [11]

Must have been Prague side of Warsaw, the eastern side. Czech Prague isn't the only one in the world ;)

Love / How Do You Feel About a Black man marrying Polish Women? [157]

@jakub_a
Don't want to sound like a douche but, in my experience women in general tend to want to give birth in an safe environment (a place she knows very well). So women tend to want to "return" to their place of upbringing to give birth, you not understanding that might have caused a lot of trust issues in your relationship. Out of what you wrote so far.