Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]


ewwwwww just make sure you keep the door closed and clean up afterwards....

rather like udusić kurczaka...

Law / How to acquire Polish citizenship through marriage as an American? More info in the post. [18]


It must be terrible going through life with no sense of humor..... do you ever laugh? And I don't mean laughing at some old lady falling down and breaking her hip I mean normal human laughter.... is that a thing for you?

Law / How to acquire Polish citizenship through marriage as an American? More info in the post. [18]



Although in my understanding you're right about the residency requirement. IIRC there's a certain number or days you can be outside of the country within a year and not stop the clock but a year.... back at zero.

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]


No, I just like them... this is a nice shape once the mustard's gone and there's no... thread (gwint) either)

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In the southern us everyone uses mason jars as glasses (despite the thread)

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and I remember using jelly jars as glasses (made with that in mind) as a kid....

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Have we had

zamknięcie drzwi stodoły ?

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]


..... I still use them....

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]

Musztardówka?

is it something about.....

making do (using a mustard jar because that's what's available?)
or
pretending to be fancy ?

Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]


Okay the problem here is figuring out what very specific Polish word became the very non-specific English word 'cup' which ban be kubek, filiżanka, puchar (and more...)

Is it related to 'mustard after dinner'?

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]


Some years ago I was involved in editing a paper in ethnography that (among other things) made the case that unlike some European countries where the process of peasantry becoming urbanized was gradual and natural, in Poland it was more that the cities became.... peasantized?

That is the patterns of peasants moving to the city (before the PRL) was faster and larger with fewer intermediate steps and they held onto traditional attitudes longer and more thoroughly.

that paper actually clarified a lot of things I'd noticed but had never understood previously.

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]


Two worst I've heard...

The older story was that the owner of the location figured out on his own how much income the store would usually bring in a month.... and raised the rent to that amount. He apparently expected the business owner to have some kind of side hustle to make a profit.... (this was an old PRL attitude where those who rented usually had to pay their entire salary to the landlord and engage in side hustles to live on).

Another was a location owner of an empty space who expected a new renter to pay rent for the months the location had stood empty between tenants (another case the owner wanted any new renter to pay for the unpaid damages of the previous tenant...).

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]


I've heard very weird stories about retail rent over the years... every bit as dysfunctional as the housing market (one reason maybe that otherwise inconvenient centrum handlowe became a thing...).

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]


Rental rates (commercial and residential) don't necessarily follow the laws of supply and demand very well... 45 years of enforced housing scarcity are still being felt.

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


AFAICT European and American punks were very different, in the college town I lived in they were careful not to do much damage (shows were organized by a member of of a local band that everyone knew and they didn't want her to lose her deposits). A few shows were held in houses (when the few local venues were unavailable). There wasn't much in the way of drugs since "straight edge" was a thing then.

This wasn't any kind of commercial enterprise - there was a sort of small punk band... circuit in the 1980s (into the early 1990s at which point I lost track) followed by a bunch of never-to-be-famous-groups who were touring more for fun than for fame and fortune.

The band members would pile in a van and drive from city to city, crashing in the living rooms of locals who organized the shows (there was an informal network so they knew what bands were coming and when). The locals would also make up fliers and post them so people knew when and where the next show was.The bands also sold their privately printed lps and t-shirts to help get gas money to the next town.

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]

I'm kind of the way except for punk, the crowd is what makes it magic....

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


Maybe, pretty good and I would have loved to see them live back in the day (I always enjoyed live punk shows more than records - many great times were had at those)

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


I do, I just educate myself about things I'm not especially interested in and anything with the word 'rock' in it (unless a catchword like 'punk' or 'glitter' or 'gothic' or 'roots' is there too....)

Behold the magnificence of Poison 13 who mixed punk with blues slide guitars...

(Poison 13 - My biggest mistake)

youtube.com/watch?v=fVIWfWY9Ttk

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


I liked "We care a lot" but from Epic on they were more of a power pop group (I liked their cover of Easy with the drag queens but I'd never consider buying anything buy them).

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]

I like the.... style of punk more, the short bursts of weird intensity rather than the pseudo-grandiose arrangements of most metal.

I don't fully understand it either.... I will say that a lot of my fondness for 1980s American punk came from the people, I knew a bunch of punks and they were a lot of fun to be around.

I will say that the personality profile of American punks in the 1980s is very close to the personality profile of Polish young people who get into metal (smart, quirky, kind of alienated but working on it....)

American metalheads at the time were more simple - angry and frustrated and kind of dumb (though I was friends with a local gothish metal group who played at local punk shows).

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


Oh.... gaaaaaaaad do I hate it... maybe his worst.... sentimental goop...

Again, I like the use of his songs in McCabe and Mrs Miller (best western ever, really, there's no discussion) but that's about it...

youtube.com/watch?v=1iYxrsd59-E

I also like "Everybody knows" but I like the cover by Concrete Blonde more than the original

youtube.com/watch?v=l5Fb4K8pNmg

Food / I SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM - the best ice cream shop in Poland? [34]

The first vowel is closer to that of 'load' (though it is a pure vowel as in Spanish and not a vowel plus a glide like the English).

The English word 'load' would be written lołd in Polish....

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]

Partly I don't think they're thinking that far ahead.... partly they'd just blame problems in the country on the 'worse sort' of Poles who left which would shore up their voter support. They'd rather be in charge of a poor Poland than out of power in a much richer country (the party prezes has said as much in interviews).

What's up with the Bulgarian protests? What's the end game?

Real Estate / Are the property prices in Poland too high? [19]


They have no incentive, they've staked out the welfare demographic and more people with higher salaries will simply deplete their voter base (and risk their standing with the crabs-in-a-bucket core electorate).

News / Religious extremists advocate murdering gay Polish politician [42]


Of course he means it, haven't you been paying attention?

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [543]

It would be stupid because it's mostly those who don't support PiS who pay for PiS electoral sausage.... the four or five least developed województwa voted overwhelmingly to keep the gibs train running while the most economically functional województwa all went for Trzaskowski.

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


On the other hand punk is about the only rock I really like* not so much the British 1970s stuff (a mixed bag for me) but American 1980s punk is awesome and very diverse stylistically

Black Flag
Husker Du
Minutemen
Meat puppets
X
Misfits
Cramps (marginal but more punk than anything else)
Social Distortion
Tupelo chain sex.....

New Day Rising...

youtube.com/watch?v=-hRCwByLb-E

*I also like some gimmicky pop style stuff I'm kind of oddly fond of early 1970s british glam rock but hard rock, heavy metal.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


It's called stiff upper lip.... resigned but with no self-pity.


You can look on your own if you're interested he's famous enough, but here's the superb singer songwriter Canadian sister act Kate and Anna McGarrigle who should have been 78 times better known than they were... they specialized in lyrics that were by turns dry and witty or deeply emotional (but very clear eyed)

youtube.com/watch?v=vlLbyUW-c6c

They were bilingual and also sang in French...

here's Cheminant a la ville (a French version of their song On my way to town).

youtube.com/watch?v=dQztQvlLXD8

Yes this is off topic I won't post any more non-Polish stuff in this thread... obiecuję

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


Cohen is a one trick pony as most of his songs can be reduced to 'poor me'... I'm reminded of the joke about a hippy being bit by a vampire... "Oh no! Now I'm doomed to forever linger in a cursed half-dead state.... like Leonard Cohen!"

I did like the use of some of his songs in the movie McCabe and Mrs. Miller (one of the greatest American movies ever made) but that's about it.

Lightfoot has a far greater emotional range (musically and lyrically).

The Edmund Fitzgerald is very good but it isn't his best song, I chose it partly as a counter to sea shanties.... (you should have picked up on that). The slightly monotonous feel is echoing the tragic inevitable fate of the crewmen of course....

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


You're in for a treat....

Here's an interesting song with lyrics "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" written a year or so after the tragic accident his lyrics still have an epic almost mythic feel....

"When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
'Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya'
At seven p.m., a main hatchway caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


Who was that again?

If you're into Canadian singer songwriters then Gordon Lightfoot drinks Cohen's milkshake.... (great lyrics and... he could actually sing)

And I can think of at least a half a dozen 1980s British groups that I prefer to Marillion's tuneless forgettable fleckering...

(the Smiths, The The, Echo and the Bunnymen, Jesus and Mary Chain, waterboys, prefab sprout, Beautiful South....)

Sea Shanties... I just don't even know where to begin.... I just.... no, I can't.... even.... (I'm disintegrating into verbless catatonia at the very thought...)

History / BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC [108]


This was a different kind of program then.... in the summer and a friend absolutely said the timing of the show (a recorded concert by Maanam IIRC) was scheduled when younger people might otherwise be going out.


One of these PRL fixations I never came close to understanding (along with Leonard Cohen and sea shanties) they always seemed completely forgettable to me...

Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

Just remember that one of the reasons for physical public schools is to help recognize children in trouble from abusive or dysfunctional families... are you okay with that disappearing?