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Ironside   
15 May 2019
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

Any document alleging

You just keep moving goalposts here. In that case any debate is pointless. Not that you have said something new or important.
Ironside   
15 May 2019
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

Evidence is evidence.

Nah, only of a crime or an alleged crime is under investigation. Those who are in a possession of some evidence must be aware that is an evidence, Again totalitarian mindset without understanding of the law.

No 'anti-church' legislation is needed.

Dough implied something of the kind.
Ironside   
15 May 2019
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

all evidence if they relate to an alleged crime under investigation.

IF they relate to an alleged crime UNDER investigation. Yes. I agree but that is not what you posted before.

The police and prosecutors do investigate.

So they are doing their job. Good to know. There is no need for some special anti-Church anti--freedom legislation.
Ironside   
15 May 2019
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

If they contain evidence of a crime,

IF? It doesn't contain any evidence if somebody write something in a letter. IF somebody who wrote it has been a victim or a witness to a crime it is his duty to report it to the authorities. IF that was as simple as you say it wouldn't be even an issue.

to investigate crime

Let them investigate all they want. Who is stopping them eh?

People here seems have no clue or talk without thinking just repeating some nonsense. A common denominator of those people is a fact that they are full of hate and are afraid of a religion and the Church. A good advice for all of you. Talk sense and stick to facts and what you know instead of listing to rumor. As you let your imagination run wild it makes you look silly. Rather than hide behind 'concern' be honest and just spew all the hate and prejudice against the Church you holing inside without any excuses.

Ah, there seem to be a third kind. Simpletons, they hear something on the media and they just go with it.
Ironside   
15 May 2019
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

If they don't act, and demand that all complaints to the bishopry are sent to the public prosecutor or the police,

Wow, isn't that a totalitarian approach? Why would letters or whatnot addressed to somebody else given forcibly to the government. As if government was a medicine and the answer to all wrongs and ills. As if gov was doing such a great job as it is.

You're really confused with your rants against gov and such and then out of the blue you demand more power to be handed over to the gov. I guess it is due to the fact that you're obsessively afraid of a religion.

The fact that people complain to bishops not to the police is question of free choice by individual citizens. All you can do is try to persuade them otherwise or build the trust. Your totalitarian approach is way off. Hey have you fixed Antifa problem? No? So why you butting in into something that doesn't concern you?

So, they dont` know what to do,

They should just jump a lake. Useless morons.
Ironside   
12 May 2019
Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]

like the priest who woul a valid criminal record to conduct a service because it was HIS chapel.

Sound like manipulation a phrase out of context. The Church has it their own laws and regulation laws, bishop makes decisions based on those and info they have got. From a moral point of view there is nothing wrong to give someone a sound chance.

There is no law that would ban people with a criminal record to find an employment. So, I don't know what you are trying to say or what is your complain about. You should make it clear because what you actually said was incredibly weak as an argument and frankly sounded quite dumb.

Some of the stories and accounts of child abuse are truly shocking......

I'm sure they are. However there is a line between being concerned about child abuse by priests statically very low percentage and a ideological propaganda war waged against the Church and religion.
Ironside   
11 May 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

hat is why some people are still so nostalgic about communism.

No, some people are nostalgic because they remember that stratification of the society wasn't that great, that employment was state ,,,if they compare with years of unemployment and no prospects while their neighbors prosper, that brings nostalgia .....

Anyway that is thing of the past, those people are in their 70 and 80 now.
Ironside   
11 May 2019
News / Poland GDP growth surprises on upside [35]

which channels are not worthless tools of propaganda with propagandist at the fore? Republika maybe to a degree but all the rest are the same..

Came to think of it most TV channels elsewhere are generally the same - politically based, there is only question of a degree, regardless you can find some good journalists here and there, like Ziemkiewicz, Rachon, Carlson and few others ...

Anyway you whine just because they don't say things that you like to hear not for any other reason.
Ironside   
10 May 2019
News / Should Polonia and expat Poles lose voting rights in Polish elections? [85]

You must be PiS supporter pawain. As they have a similar attitude.

Once you start striping from the people their voting right it is a path down the rabbit hole.

As per usual dumb people are yapping stupidly about things they don't understand. they think - hey those are voting on people we don't like, lest strip them from their voting rights. Well enjoy until it is gonna be your turn to be striped from your rights.

Unless you want o have a real talk about reducing number of those eligible to vote. No, not Polonia only.
Ironside   
3 May 2019
History / Heritage of partitions still present in Poland [107]

As I vaguely remember from history at school Austro-Hungarian part was quite laid back.

If you vaguely remained something. it is better to say nothing. As it is a nonsense.
Ironside   
3 May 2019
History / Heritage of partitions still present in Poland [107]

So...the ex-german parts of Poland are not only wealthier but the people living there are more not east-polish? :)

No, it just those parts - east and south of today Poland hasn't been affect that much by ethnic cleansing, mass restatement pf people and so on.

Those areas were able to withstand to a higher degree sovietization due to centuries long social connections and tradition. Those less rooted were easier brainwashed.
Ironside   
3 May 2019
History / Heritage of partitions still present in Poland [107]

So....the russian partition and the austro-hungarian partition was no cause for a reaction?

OK. \
Prussian partition formed different form of resistance. It was possible regardless of many anti-Polish policies, laws and organization aimed at Germanization to organize and to prosper. After all Polish were also a Prussian citizen and as long as they acting within boundaries of the law they were OK. So all the power went into businesses model, a patriotic Pole was a successful one.

In Austria, high taxes and lost of BS. Yet schooling in Polish, including uni. Polish people in administration, army, There were Polish PM many ministers.

Russia, mindless tyranny, inconsistent have handed polices, total misunderstanding of Polish culture or mindset, inferiority complex of Russian intelligentsia. yet most of uprisings were there, corruption and so on. Russian imperialist scared of possible Poland's revival.
Ironside   
2 May 2019
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

100 billions euros from EU funds

plus 100 Billions euros of credits taken in western banks in the name of the people, that need to be repaid with interest. So that EU found is a scam and BS from the start. It gives an opportunity for all shady or less shady but nevertheless corrupt deal to make a big money. Those few who are getting rich are screwing all the rest.

I have a question for you. Are those few are paying you? Are you simply a clueless moron?

thousands of infrastructure projects funded by the EU

Sure look above. Paid by the Polish taxpayers twice over. I don't even talk about money Poland need to pay into EU bureaucracy. Not to mention useless and stiffing EU laws - how much they cost Poland just to implement it.

!. Most of the good things could have happened anyway with only an economic treaties. Freedom of travel is a one plus but not much else.

economy in good shape, and still rising- thriving agriculture- Poland's GDP has doubled-- protection against semi dictatorial inclinations of PiS.

Is that rally a good shape?a banana republic is you model?/thriving agriculture what a baloney. It has been a strong feature of Poland regardless of the EU attempts to clamp it down. /GDP - tell you knowing is a BS static, useful only to speculative international capital. / protection my foot, they just want to impose their own version of dictatorial rule heard about introduction in the EU by the EU Chinese like censorship of the internet?

You full of garbage.
Ironside   
22 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

There is a reason why poles fear us but we have zero fear about poland.

You what? What are you yapping about pup? Who is exactly afraid of whom? You're delusional. lol!

They even make fun about your country i

Yeah that famous German humor, just give up on that all together its embarrassing,

Sharing so openly views of your German idiots

Every country have their idiots. I actually like Weimar. After PC tiptoeing German posters or some really intelligent poster like BB, I found his candour refreshing.
Ironside   
21 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

What do you mean with "it doesn't exist"?

It mean that is not what it is pretending to be. If I would have typed for you an agreement that would promised to give you Stettin for ten million Euro, even if you would have had paid the full price and I failed to deliver ....you couldn't produce such a document as a valid agreement in the court, only as a proof of a con.

The law from 1953 states exactly who and how and what. In the case of the paper you talk about, there is neither right who, right how and right what.
Ironside   
21 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

Poland already did it by taking a lot of EU money

It doesn't surprise me that dufus ( not doofus) like you think along those lines. Here surprise for you, nothing very gave to Poland or its citizens a dime. The EU found and EU issues are all part of the deal. You're like a kid thinking that your daddy gets money from his wallet. (In your case of a basement dweller a mummy. )

They will not because Poland still owes Moscow for its liberation.

LOL! right, let not forget our resident troll.

the mouth of true Nazi !

That is getting old. He has big mouth, doesn't make him a Nazi, gees. A Pop culture and progressive crap ruined people and their ability to think.
Ironside   
21 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

Which how do you know, can

Are you playing a guessing game? Who cares about you dumb questions? It an issue that can only be solved in diplomatic negotiations. So far there hasn't been any serious move in that direction. Just some double talk.

In this thread anyone can express their opinion on the subject. If they can back it up with some compelling arguments that so much better. You're only yapping here and there like a light weight. That OK.

1953 reparations were decided.

Nah, it wasn't. That is my point. That 1953 agreement doesn't exist.
So theoretically nothing stops Poland from asking for those reparations. i.e. for intentional destruction of Warsaw aside all that had been destroying during the campaign of 1939 or fight in Warsaw 44, only that what had been stolen and destroying after ceasefire.

1. Evidently gov in Warsaw is doing nothing so, it is no issue.

2. Petition like that is just a useless act. IF say 10 million Americans would sign it, that would be something. We all know that most of those Pol-Ams are more interested in kielbasa, meaning of their name, some stuff about ancestors, or at the very least some tour to Poland hoping in their ignorance to get some half-serf, stunning beauty for few fistful of dollars that in real life issues concerning Poland and Polish people.

I'm all against asking some foreign powers to intervene in Poland, Like WTF? Those people who are keep doing that mean well but their out of their depth.

Does this Reparations also include to pay compensations to all the Germans who lost their home and house?

Yes, a missing kick in the ass they forget to collect while being kicked out.
Ironside   
21 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

Moral grounds - zero. There is a common sense rule in civil law: a kiss ends a dispute.

Said who - you? phew! Kiss my a...

that prohibits members states from suing each other for the events prior to joining.

It makes you both funny, BB in a nice way and you in a clownish way.

If that would be a legal clause, German gov would have made a good use out of it a long time ago. A fact that jabbering about 1953 'agreement' tell anyone with a more than a two brain cells together that there is not such a clause that could be used in regard to the issue.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

Your fault that you weren't even there. You failed to put in your demands then, now it's to late. Sorry

Oh, you want to have a trade going with Russia going over Poland's territory - sorry prices for transit just quadrupled.

Oh, your gas pipe wasn't deep enough blocking our port in Stettin oh we so sorry, As it happened a ship accidently bust it.

Oh, your capital owns like 80% of the Polish media, such and such banks, sorry we just changed the law and you can only own 10% we will buy the rest for the market price, opps the prices just dropped down overnight, well what we can do - a free market economy eh?

That just from the top of my head.

Serio, Germany is soo lucky I'm not in charge in Poland. :)

Israel too and Russia, and some other sods.
USA on the other hand is loosing in the long term.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

It began in

That issue has more levels to it.
1, From a moral point of view and so called an old fashioned justices Poland have the right to ask for those compensations - the answer is yes.

2, From the legal point of view has Poland have the right to ask for compensation - yes it does - as this so called agreement from 1953 hasn't been legally binding by the Soviet Poland procedures and the law. Some Soviet from Kremlin ordered his underlining in Soviet Poland government to give him such and such a paper and he obeyed.

Bad luck for Germany today that he didn't bother to follow the law and procedures that he should have. Hence that agreement not legally biding. Also there other issues that make it void and nullified. So IF that is only legal argument that the German gov brings to the table - I'm afraid it has no legs to stand on - legally speaking.

3, Is it practical to ask for compensation? - |Probably not.

However Germany want to have Poland as their mitteleuropa vasal state IF so, that the least they can to would to solidly compensate Poland for all the loses incurred and those that she will incur in the future due to such a status. I think that is a pretty reasonable stance.

On the other hand those people either PO or PiS in charge in Poland. I wouldn't want to talk to them serious either. From my point of view its pretty sad.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2019
News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

WW II is over 80 years over.

Nope, the WWII was over about 30 years ago, give or take. The some goes for DDR, you should know THAT at least.

for crying out loud.

Yes, we heard your opinion on the subject many times. Now if you have nothing new to add. Why don't you stop regurgitate.

some nutters only always claim reparations from Germany and not from Russia likewise too

Don't be a child BB. It doesn't work that way. Hey I wasn't the only one what about X, Y, Z? Nothing, an answer goes you worry about yourself.
Ironside   
14 Apr 2019
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

It seems the whole Smoleńsk business has been hushed up by PiS government.

Hushed? I mean what they can find after so many years and without property of the polish state being stolen by thieving Russians?

Besides the question posed what was the case oft he crash is purely academic and secondary.

What Any serious commission of any serious state would do at the state. It would investigate people and institutions who and which haven't been doing their duties. Those who fail, neglected, mismanagement and so on... They should be put in prison. Some goes with those who had hold at the time the highest positions should face beside a political responsibility charges of neglecting their duties and acting against interest of the state and should be put in prison.

Maciarewicz focuses on scientific theories what might have happened or could have happened and use them to stir political waters. disappointing.

Not that opposition is nothing but a bunch of clueless churls, they are absolutely useless no entities.