Poles, you can consider that are old alliances violently broken and betrayed by Britain. Britain is now Polish mortal enemy that eagerly and openly works against interests of Poland, in every opportunity, on all meridians.
Those who think that Duda won`t come to Independence Day parade mistaking. He will come. He must. Poles are increasingly aware of their tragic situation within EU and NATO. They don`t wish to serve to anybody and so neither to western Europe, neither to the USA, ie- false Polish friends in NATO and EU, who lure Poland in sh**, while hate and humiliate Poles in reality and work against Poland`s interests and on the long run seek to assimilate Poles and grab Poland. So, Duda must go to Independence Day parade to preserve control over the processes that accelerate and moving in direction of blessed Miedzymorze.
Plus, you have powerful magnates in Poland whose interests at this moment overlap with the interests of Polish people and that is necessity for preservation of Poland and Slavic world, especially Slavic world on the Baltic-Balkan line that is loyal to Poland. So those Polish magnates don`t like when see how Greater Albania project develop and expand onto the Serbian lands that gravitate to the warm seas/waters of Mediterranean, what is supported by Britain, France, USA and Germany. Serbia still hold, at least virtually keeping Kosovo and Metohija under its sovereignty but status of Kosovo may soon be resolved. Dalmatia that is within Croatia (ie Germany`s realm) is already taken form the incoming Miedzymorze. Now partition of Serbia threatening to absolutely cut Poland (ie Miedzymorze) from warm waters of Mediterranean. British pressure on Serbia these days is truly upsetting and we entered in era where Britain openly works against Serbia, against Poland.
You see my friends. That i telling for years already on this forum. it is THAT deception that western Europe and USA created in case with Serbian question. They created image that harming Serbs means harming Russia. Strategically, yes it harming Russia. But strategically, harm Poland and that also harms Russia. Not to mention that in disputes of Poland and Russia, Serbians always sided with Poles.
No my friend, don`t mistake, harming Serbians was destroy interests of Poland. All the time. Harm Serbians and cut legs of Poland, cut Her possibility to influence access to warm European waters. Harm Serbians and destroy vitality of Poles. Nothing isn`t that important for power of Poland as the status of Serbians. All Polish patriots understand that and that is the reason why they support Serbians.
So, having all this in mind, Duda would come to Independence Day parade. Today its not obvious but tomorrow it will be, Poland would need services from those layers of society that organize Independence Day parade. Poland would need Her children, Her patriots.
Many would be surprised but, not those who understand how modern politics work. Let me tell you, Poland now rising Her head and collect all Her power for most probably last historical attempt of Poland to brake free. It means that would Poland annul its Kosovo recognition and if necessary even militarily intervene on the behalf of Serbia,... go out of EU, go out of NATO, pledge to form Miedzymorze and, Poland would become lethal when come to Her interests.
Uni-Polar world order is over. We now live in world that is in period of transition into the Multi-Polar world. Time for Poland to choose, to exist as center of one unique civilization (Miedzymorze) that emerged from within Slavic world, or, Poland may choose to stay in EU and to assimilate into Germanic civilization, in a world that globalize.
Now, its not only choice of Poland and Poles but of all of us who live on Baltic-Balkan-Black see line. All of us facing similar choices. Just, Poland have chance to lead, to become global power. Multi-Polar world is opportunity that Poland waited for centuries. No, not for centuries. For millennia.
Check Polish history, Poles chose strong ties with Europe more than 1000 years ago. :)
not quite. At first, Poland was richer then western European city states. Not only richer but even more modern, cradle of democracy and pluralism, even multiculturalism (sure not in vulgar sense of the word). Then, when city states evolved into nations, they robbed Poland. Since then Poland run for western European money, while at the same time escaping from its own poverty and Russian backwardness.
Now, Poland have chance to again be richer then western Europe. Plus, Serbs would also have more money then western Europe and Poland can choose- to run for its own money or to run for Serbian money. Whatever Poles choose. When we speak of Europe, one who have more money, that one is the West.
Poland would have built NOTHING without the EU. Ingrates who would still be struggling to get to their 1000 zl a month backward state-owned company "jobs."
see. Its all about money.
EU is now like an old exhausted granny. Very ugly.
i contemplated on Polish strategic situation a lot of.
in my opinion, Russia isn`t direct threat. Its even unnatural for Russia to be threat to Poland. But, again, i founded a lot of historical examples of Russia conflicting with Poland. i won`t speak of all reasons but, here is the main reason for conflict.... Russia`s movements to West are deeply connected to the western European movements to the East. Since Poland lost its own ability to control its western borders and can`t do anything to stop deeper penetration of eventual attack from the western Europe (last great successful defense was at Grunwald), Russia due to strategic reasons initiate, to say that way, constant preemptive annexation of Poland in order to keep hostile western Europeans far from Russian land. Of course, its not kind gesture regarding brotherly Poles but, from the Russian point of view was always much better to sacrifice opposing brother (Poland) then to allow that Russian enemies use territories and even population of opposing brother (Poland) against Russia.
That is exactly the reason why Pilsudski didn`t sow Intermarium as just anti-Russian alliance. No, original creators of idea of Intermarium were pretty much aware that even greater threat to Poland coming from the western Europe. To keep Russia on distance, they knew that Poland must keep western Europe on distance. Violation of this principle leads to fall of Poland.
One may ask- is it Poland or future Intermarium destined to the eternal defensive behavior, just to hold to the balance of equilibrium between western Europe and Russia. Yes, as long as it needs that Serbians strengthen to their full potential (if ever). Only they, Serbs, can provide Poland with attacking capabilities. Nothing else. Only Serbs. They would when the right moment come rise their hand and make that world rotate around Intermarium. Then, would be peace.
If Poland don`t choose (or is forced by western Europe and USA) to be direct threat, Russia absolutely don`t have interest to attack Poland. Why would Russia do that, even if Poland isn`t member of NATO or EU? Really, why? just to conquer Poland? for sure not. How to explain that adventure to its own public, to other Slavs, to rest of the world? So, why? to conquer Poland and to hold it? No, again not. Reasons same as in previous example. Plus, Russia already tried that and learned that Russia can`t digest Poland. Simple, Poles decided that are they Poles and not Russians. So, again, why? just to commit genocide on Poles? No, Russia don`t have genocidal ideology against Poles. Plus, why would Russia destroy Poles when they, if alive, represent natural Russian shield on western Russian border, even if Poland isn`t part of Russia. Simple, all Slavs are natural shield to each others in case of attack of hostile foreigners, even if we mutually politically may differ.
But, Poland needs to keep itself on the equal distance from the Russia and from the west of Europe. Exactly that needs to provide Intermarium. Many of us have that in mind and so, Poland isn`t alone.
Duda wouldn`t speak of Intermarium if he don`t consider that option as realistic, if he didn`t recognized signals. After all, its not his idea originally but, of numerous political analysts of past and our time.
Also, fact is that Intermarium don`t have alternative. If fails to form Intermarium, Poland and other countries from Baltic to Balkan would face inevitable assimilation into the more and more clearly Germanic EU, in not so distant future. So, `cube is thrown` and Poland now publicly announced that don`t have intention to die in silence. i would even say that Duda`s announcement for Inmtermarium represent kind of `Salto Mortale`. Meaning, Poland count on all Her friends and needs them now or never.
In my opinion, in next 10 years (but i give maximally 15 years! it is even possible that things accelerate to less then 5 years), maybe little more or little less, Poland would be out of EU and NATO. Visegrad Group would start to play role of military alliance (what is now NATO for Poland), while would Intermarium become more viable option. Then, constitution of Intermarium would happen, i believe, first around common economic goals and policy, kind of Economic Union. Country would get chance to become member of Intermarium, without joining to Visegrad Group. At one moment, Intermarium would turn into Confederation.
As for Serbians, i am absolutely sure that would they support Poland. They must. Its in their genetic and mental code. Not to mention that eventual Serbian contra to Poland may severely weaken Poland`s arguments and action, split centrifugal forces of Intermarium`s unifying force and deal catastrophic blow onto the very idea of Intermarium, which would on the long run bring disaster of both- Slavic west and Slavic south. No, my people isn`t that dirty and even less that stupid. Serbians would support Poland by all means, as always in history, serving themselves as example to others and when necessary help that others align with Poland, even if it means necessity to bring them democracy and show them way.
Poles, my sisters and brothers, we may have doubts, we may still have many questions but, we have hearts of our ancestors and we won`t die in silence, we shall refuse life in fear, we shall grab the historic chance to regain our golden freedom. So that nobody rule us, neither the east, neither the west and that we are sole masters of our realm, we people from the Baltic and Balkan, from Central to the South-Eastern and Eastern Europe.
Sarmacja - Psalm Rodowodowy
Gniew Husarii
Jacek Kaczmarski i Jacek Kowalski-"Pieśń konfederatów"
Think of this in the context of initiative for Intermarium and in environment of refugee crisis >>>
Hungary Backs Acceleration Of Turkey's Accession To The European Union
Hungary backs speeding up talks on Turkey's European Union accession and lifting its European visa requirements, the country's Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó has said.
it won`t be coalition with Russia. Russia would have Eurasian Union, Poland would have Intermarium and, all would be happy. Plus, there would be plenty of other civilizations. Jews would have their own.
ah its far from that good but, i don`t care as long as people can understand me. Slavicized English is enough to me ;)
Anyway, i had perfect teacher of English language in my primary school. That lady finished the job. i cried but i was able to speak and write understandable English. Then comes the learning at secondary school and university. For all that time English in movies (before in Yugoslavia and now Serbia we uses solely subtitles for movies), for the practice. For some time already, books. Then English at work when travel to some trip, touristic necessities for English, PC, etc. One would actually expect that i`m expert but, well...
we speak of Miedzymorze, in Eng. Intermarium. That would be official. If that is sometimes mentioned as the Slavic Commonwealth, at least among Slavs (while we drink, for example) why would that be a problem? Why would that insult anybody, as long as their right are respected and we Slavs would be guarantor of it. When i think of USA, Canada, Australia or Britain, those are all Anglo conglomerated in my perception. But its not problem to me. Those were Anglos who initiated that and made it in accordance with their cultural heritage (alright, maybe Jews helped a little). It was then enriched with other peoples heritage, too. Then, it was even polluted with cheep things. That is exactly the reason why Slavs sense that its not model suitable to them. With all due respect on model, of course.
They are Slavs undercover...
yes, that, too.
why was the Zastava car make scrapped?
after NATO (ie Anglo, Germanic and Islamic league) bombardment of Serbia and Montenegro in 1999, country suffered damage worth more then 100 mlrd USA dollars. We needed to gave it, in order to restart it.
The cars built in former Yugolsvia are now called Fiat.
Point is. If Italians wants to sell it in Russia, China or former Soviet Union market, they needs to produce it in Serbia. That makes many people happy. Even Pope, as you can see.
Don't think so, it would be rather like confederacy of states, some like EU, some like NATO, some like consensus what would be the best and what is needed.
yes, i agree to it. But its just so romantic to think of parliamentary monarchy.
Amazing Central & Eastern Europe - Praise to Intermarium
Commenting on Croatian measures on refugee issue, having also in mind recent Croatian provocations of Serbia, Croatian PM Milanovic admitted that he constantly have consultations with leaders of Austria and Germany. ``These are the most powerful countries in Europe and we work in their national interests....... that is the western Europe to which we belong....``. Milanovic also said that he have support of most important people within EU. At the same time, Milanovic labels Budapest (Hungary) and Belgrade (Serbia) as axis that together with opposition in Croatia works against him and his government.
Source: Milanović: Jedva èekam ponoć da vidim šta će biti
Premijer Hrvatske kaže da sve poteze preduzima uz konsultacije sa liderima Austrije i Nemaèke.
"To su najmoćnije zemlje u Evropi, a mi radimo i u njihovim nacionalnim interesima", rekao je on, dodajući da se oni "ne deru, ne galame, ne daju ultimatum i to je zapadna Evropa kojoj mi pripadamo, ovo ovde nije zapadna Evropa"
Milanović, međutim, nije direktno odgovorio na pitanje da li se o zatvaranju granice konsultovao sa nemaèkom kancelarkom Angelom Merkel, rekavši ponovo da je "razgovarao sa najvažnijim ljudima u EU",
Serbian media are full of rapports about Pope`s visit to USA and how Pope Francis, right after his airplane landed, went out of plane and set in a Fiat 500L, a car that was produced in Serbia, in Zastava`s Kragujevac motor-plant.
Papa Franja stigao je u prvu posetu SAD, a za mnoge je predstavljalo iznenađenje to što je po izlasku iz aviona seo u, za amerièke uslove skromni, FIAT 500L koji se proizvodi u Kragujevcu.
What we know is that right now Serbia mediate between Fiat Company and Russian chamber of commerce, for the Russian import of 10.000 Fiat cars produced in Serbia, in Fiat`s plant in Kragujevac. Its about great profit for Italy and for Serbia.
It is also worth to know that official Vatican and Pope himself support Serbian sovereignty by the Serbian constitution, on entire Serbian territory, including Serbian province of Kosovo. Vatican don`t recognize separation of Kosovo from Serbia. Speaking of dispute between Croatian state and Catholic clergy, with Serbian state and Serbian Orthodox Church, Vatican accepted Serbian demand for investigation about Croatian beatification of Cardinal Stepinac that during WWII was involved with German Nazis and Croatian pro-German Nazi ustashe, at a time when genocide was committed on local Serbians. Pope intervened to stop process of promotion of Stepinac into saint, while combined Vatican`s and Serbian Orthodox Church commission have to analyze Stepinac`s past.
In order to secure belonging of the warm waters of Adriatic sea and Dalmatian coast, to the emerging Miedzymorze, Serbia already started to reinstate her influence and power in the region, among countries of former Yugoslavia. Local mafia centers and dictatorial regimes are to be put down. Islamic and Germanic influences are maximally reduced, while is established balance between USA, Russian, Vatican`s, Jewish and Chinese interests in the region. Britain and France are prevented to meddling. EU and NATO anti-Serbian propaganda are almost entirely defeated. Conditions for penetration of Poland`s influence are in process of consolidation.
If we do not want to give up at the start and assume the position of a suppliant, we have to believe that the vision of Central European Union is achievable. Because there is no good alternative.
I hope so much you will leave the EU you are the second largest community in the UK after the Indians, there is even more Polish than Pakistanis now in the UK, go your own country and live in your own ***. Anyway we UK we will leave the EU and will kick you out hahaha.
why you English can`t imagine that Poland choose to go its own way?
you sincerely want good relations with Poland? Yes? Fine. As i see Poland want at least normal relations with England.
So, whats the problem? Poland don`t switch sides. Poland don`t want to enter in Eurasian Union. Poland just wants to form Intermarium. One nice little conglomerate of countries around Poland. Same as Anglos already created vast countries such are Britain, Australia, Canada, USA.
Tell me if i`m wrong but, i for sure don`t see reason for Anglos to be upset if Poles wants to go out of EU and finally wants to do something for themselves and, for those who think similar to them, among countries on Baltic-Balkan-Ukraine line
UK is part of problem. Its west of Europe. Now when they see that Slavs understand what is in the game, they would rather support EU or, if they see that EU collapsing, who knows for what are they ready. Remember, Britain is brain of the western Europe. Germany is fist. USA is reserve that always monitor situation in Europe. But, its all one club. It sometimes appears that they have misunderstandings. They do but, when it comes to Slavs, they are united. They just wants Slavic resources. Its so close to them. Hand always moves to grab
When i predicted that would in next 100 years, Polish and other Slavs from Baltic to Balkan and Ukraine, if fails to form Intermarium (as Duda suggested), face extinction due to assimilation by the western Europe, i didn`t even take in consideration weakening of Slavic elements due to influx of new coming Arabs in Europe, welcomed by the governments of EU leading powers. So, i now clearly see that things accelerate. i am absolutely sure that west of Europe (EU leading powers) hurry to assimilate Slavs, not in 100 years but, to weaken them seriously in even 50 years. That is exactly one (!) of the reason why this in case with refugees around us happening.
Actually, i am now even more sure that tragically died Polish president Lech Kaczyński was assassinated by EU and NATO leading powers, at a moment when wanted to reconcile with Russia.
We now all can see that Duda coming from within same patriotic circles in Poland, that gave Lech Kaczyński. Those are kind of politicians ready to dies for what they believe (i greatly respect that) and are quite aware what is in the stake.
In my opinion, political elite in Poland is aware what is in the game. Must be that Kaczyński himself tried to prepare ground for inevitable, for Poland`s abandoning of EU and formation of Intermarium. He traveled to Russia to assure them that Poland`s intention isn`t to form Intermarium as anti-Russian creation but, in agonizing attempt to save itself. For sure Kaczyński, being aware of odds, desired even Russian help. Then, Kacz was killed by EU and NATO.
Yes, Poland should go out of EU, as soon as possible. Its a deadly trap.
Somebody said on this forum, few years ago, that one Polish thinker once said: ``Mixing with other Slavs is only mixing acceptable to Poles and, quite enough.``
Its a pity that i didn`t remember name of the thinker. Very good thinking
