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Bratwurst Boy   
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]

We might belong to one of the last generations who has to think these heavy thoughts anyhow.

It's becoming acute with fish already which will become a rare luxury in a few years and will spread on to many other food stuff we take for granted.

The industry will sell more and more faked stuff which only looks like the real thing but consists of godknowswhat...

The earth just can't keep up with feeding the many billions of people anymore..

So soon it's all artificial anyhow! No need to discuss the morals of the food anymore...
Bratwurst Boy   
22 Feb 2011
Food / Eat goulash from a cat and a steak from a dog in Poland! [114]

Many would say you can and go on about how intelligent the pig is.

The intelligence quotient is not the same as the cuddleworthy factor but intelligent animals shouldn't be eaten in the first place in my opinion.

The moment one convinces me that my daily meat has self awareness and that they give each other names I will rethink my behavior.

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article714144.ece

...The evidence suggests dolphins share the human ability to recognise themselves and other members of the same species as individuals with separate identities.
The research, on wild bottlenose dolphins, will lead to a reassessment of their intelligence and social complexity, raising moral questions over how they should be treated.

They shouldn't be kept in zoos and trained to make funny things for the public either once a certain IQ is measured...
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Interesting theory but you’re forgetting one thing, those were the first Poles tp leave Dodge,

?

What dodge?
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

One can still be ethnically German and consider himself Polish by nationality! Polish nationalism is a bit more open then the German one BB.

Yeah...must'n mix up ethnicity and nationality...not so easy these days!
Germans have problems with that I admit...

Well thank the Nazi's... After ww2 anybody even reminding anythign about Germans were a bad thing! + add nobel roots! The commie party WERE NOT fond of my family AT ALL!

Ach scratch that...I only know the tidbits you tell the forum and you always make sure that everybody knows that your family is not really German at all and does everything to stamp that heritage out...being double proud Poles...extra strong!

Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

I mean you can hate the Nazis but be still german...where is the sense in changing your ethnicity after politics!
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Utter BS! My family is quite a good example of en "pre-German" family that became Polish! Why do you think so many Poles have German surnames?

Polonization!

As Poles who lived in Germany got germanized in time, so were Germans living in Poland better polonizing.
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

I feel many Polish-Americans on this forum respect productivity and efficiency more than the finer things in life like idleness and aesthetic contemplation and that is why they are Crypto-Germans.

Well...that must be the USians in them then..

Jews being a very proud people, wanted to preserve their Jewish culture, so they generally kept to themselves. That was there choice.

Polish/eastern Jews for sure.

But western/german Jews was a different case. They were integrating totally...so many Germans who intermingled with Poles had also their ounce jewish heritage in them..ergo... ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

I remember a joint venture agreement between two companies, one Polish and the other German. The board of the German company all had Polish surnames and the board of the Polish company all had German surnames.

Heh:)

No, sweetie pie, you stay lovely as you are at your place and we will stay as we are at ours.

Nah...we will mingle and mix happily as we did for millennia now! :)

Especially now as close working neighbours without any borders whatsoever...
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

You still have no proof that the majority of Germans living in Poland felt that way, maybe wealthy people or noble how did the majority, the common people feel?

Boy, you really have to observe yourself!

Do you really think someone changes its ethnic heritage just like that???
Nobody else clings to his heritage even afte centuries but only the Poles do???

Poles are a proud people we are proud to be Polish, we're proud to be Slavs your problem is BB that you believe we want to be like you we really don't,

And that's why you trying to tell me all Germans can't wait to shed their german heritage to become part of the great, phantastic Poland????

You sweared allegiance to the US voluntarily I read? No more Pole in you now, isn't there?
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Because Poland didn't partition Germany and persecute it's people, a German didn''t have a reason to hate Poland if he was born there he could see Poland as his true homeland and feel a Pole.

Ummm....he could by why should he?

I'm sure you know Germans began settling in Poland in large numbers back in the 12th century, a generation or two they intermarried with Poles ans saw themselves as Poles.

Do you know that towns like your beloved Krakow were re-settled and re-build almost exclusively by Germans, don't you?

Why do you think it came to a large scale polonization? Do you really believe all that warm fuzzy I-love-to-be-polish crap?

...
The year 1311 saw a rebellion against Poland's King Władysław I. It was organised by Wójt Albert and involved mostly German-speaking citizens of Krakow. The rebellion cost Poland the city of Gdańsk, which was taken by the Teutonic Order, but German-speakers lost their political ambitions and began to Polonize...

Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Because until nationalism became popular in Poland in late 19th and early 20th century Poland was much more tolerant than other European nations we had no ethnic persecutions or religious wars.

Sounds great for the Poles but why should a German feel polish?
Did the Poles feel german during the partitions???
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

But my family felt disgust over the Nazi's and their "lackeys" so they didn't think they really were Germans... They felt more Polish then German in that sort of sense

Aren't you mixing things up? Political resistance and ethnicity???

But sorry for mixing up Denmark with Norway...normally I point only up north.... ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

If I could have my way, I would like to see today's Jews, Poles and Germans stick together as much as possible, despite past frictions.

*nods*

Inspite all regular b*itching our relationships had never been so good as today!
*handshake* :)
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Afterall I found out that I have some Jewish ancestry in me.

A typical cool central european mix....polish, german, jewish!

Congrats MW! :)

Some of the greatest heads in history had been of that mixture! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

Ditto! ;)

Afterall, they had German names, spoke German, and have lived in German cities.

...butwhoknowsyoumightbeagerman....
*runs very fast*

It's a well known German craze - using all possible definitions of ethnicity in order to prove Europeans are Germans !

Well...seems more like a polish hobby to take a random famous and search for anything polish...I don't know anything comparable to these threads: "Is (insert a famous name) polish?" from german talk boards!

Germans really have no need for that...we have famous people in abundance. We don't stay for falsifying though...as don't do the Poles!
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Feb 2011
History / Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole? [138]

He belongs to the world.

Nope....

Jesus Christ, I said basically everyone did see themselves as Poles,

What makes you think so?

It's a same like I'm against calling concentration camps Polish.

*nods*

The german concentration camps on polish territory they don't want to have..oh how they protest...but other Germans on polish territory they claim as Poles..oh how they fight!

Get a grip people...what is it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Gabriel_Fahrenheit

Fahrenheit was born in 1686 in Danzig (Gdańsk), the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but lived most of his life in the Dutch Republic. The Fahrenheits were a German Hanse merchant family who had lived in several Hanseatic cities.

Danzig was a Hanse town....also Kopernikus father was working for the Hanse...the Hanse was german.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus

Nicolaus was named after his father, who appears in records for the first time as a well-to-do Catholic merchant who dealt in copper, selling it mostly in Danzig (Gdańsk).[7][8]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toru%C5%84

...The Teutonic Knights built a castle in the vicinity of the Polish settlement in the years 1230-31. On 28 December 1233, the Teutonic Knights Hermann von Salza and Hermann Balk signed[3] the foundation charters for Thorn and Chełmno.

There was much german in what is Poland these days...doesn't make it polish!
See concentration camps...right? Riiiiight!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO German would EVER want to be POLISH!!!

....and the other way around...

Most people wouldn't want to exchange their heritage like a hat! Nothing especially polish or german about it!
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

As for the education - it's not good. There are some cases where the education is approaching "good" on a European level, but on the whole, the system is dire

Well...I'm not sure about that one...

poland.pl/news/article,Polish_students_skilled_above_European_average,id,454279.htm

According to latest PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) research, students attending Polish schools have better learning results than their European peers.

Bratwurst Boy   
13 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

I don't believe contemporaries can really have a good say about any country's greatness or excellence...they don't have the whole picture!

That to determine is a matter of historians.
They write about a countries "golden ages" or low points from a view several hundred years on...having a much bigger, much broader, complete viewpoint.

Only they know which of the contemporary artists, inventors, politicians etc. really will make a lasting impression.

We ourselves can't do that! It's like staying to near to a huge puzzle..you only see some pieces at once...
But you need to stay back to get the whole image.

But still you can compare some broad cornerstones yourself...is Poland living free and in peace? Is it's economy, it's society developing? Is it's clout in Europe growing peacefully?

How does that compare to it's past? Worse? Better?
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

I for one as dismayed that such a relatively big country as Poland trails behind Latvia, Romania, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Denmark in terms of inventions.

According to this statistic Mongolia is better than even Germany....

nationmaster.com/graph/eco_pat_gra_percap-economy-patents-granted-per-capita

So... ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

Well...no cats and dogs for me....I would end up cuddling them instead of eating them!

BTW, anyone interested might do well to check out the number of patents by country. It will be eye-opening.

You mean this one?

nationmaster.com/graph/eco_pat_gra-economy-patents-granted

Btw...half of the US-patents are german anyhow... :)

*runs*
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

It's a crying shame about the shipyards and Cegielski, FSO and Ursus. When I was there 12 or 15 years ago, it was heart-breaking to see the buildings of the once flourishing tractor-maker boarded up and the grounds strewn with rubble and rusting machinery and overgrown with weeds. Was there really no way of saving it?

As the communist regimes were totally broke and all this "flourishing" had been on the backs of the freedoms of the people....no...there hadn't.

Nobody said growing up, facing reality and rebuilding your country on firm, serious footing is easy.

Poland is on a good way, your constant overhyping of a skewed image of a long gone past blinds you for the already achieved real progress and for a real bright, proud future.

As a real patriot you should always have the best for your people in mind...not some unrealistic image of it!
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

You must have studied history from books made in the Third Reich

Heh:)

I have learned about Polands glory past from Poles themselves...here at this board!
I doubt they needed Nazi-school books for that...
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Feb 2011
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

More a missed opportunity or a lack of ambition. Poland had neither.

As far as I gathered did Poland had it's time in the sun once too...during the commonwealth? No?
Poland had been quite big in Europe back then...