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Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

I agree that Poles can and should be proud of being polish, of polish history, of polish achievements...buuuut...what is this "especially polish thing"?

What makes you different to others??? You know...Germans the mechanics...French the cooks...Italians the lovers...Polish the...?
Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

*believe it or not - I've never stolen a car in my life! :)*

Aha...you are the one!

Besides - we are, on average, more intelligent, more honest, more handsome and spritually and morally superior to any other nation in the world (and that of course doesn't arouse warm feelings towards us in all those lesser nations).

Yeah...wishful thinking and all that but seriously now...

PS: And we are so much more handsome!!!! But believe it or not Germans suffer some bad stereotypes too...fat, hairy (the women), dour, humourless, arrogant...I wonder where they got that from..must be that mean polish propaganda! :(
Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

Why?

Honestly...most people have no idea about the grande time of the Polish/Lithuanian empire and the Szlachta and all that.

Modern people remember Poland as either partitioned (if they are interested in central european history that is) or occupied or commie...nothing of which speaks especially of freedom.

That many international Jews still hold a grudge against Poland beaten only by their grudge against Germany doesn't help either...nor does the millions of Poles EMMIGRATING from Poland away into the land of the free (the US and others) strengthen the impression that Poland is a country of freedom and tolerance itself.

Just my two pfennigs..
Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

don't forget leader-hose and yodeling ;)

*ignores that*

But we are not talking about national stereotypes here, BB.

I know...I just wanted to make it more clear what my question was about.
Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

That is uniquely polish???
Poland the "Land of the Free"??? ;)

Nah...don't think so....gimme something else..

Look I don't want to rouse a stink (honestly) but it's a question Germans ask themselves too and most other people do so too...

I for one find most stereotypes about Germans more or less fitting...and when they picture Germans as beer drinking, Bratwurst/Sauerkraut eating, meticulous, diligent, determined, philosophical mechanics I like that...that is something especially german I think (even as we have also a world to offer regarding music, art and literature).

(Not to forget that Nazi thing)
These stereotype is used the world over when people speak about Germans...so I think it could be seen as especially german.

So...what is this especially polish thing?
Bratwurst Boy   
23 Sep 2010
Life / Why Polish people should be proud of being Polish? [370]

“The soul of Poland is indestructible... she will rise again like a rock, which may for a spell be submerged by a tidal wave, but which remains a rock.” Sir Winston Churchill, Speech to the House of Commons, 1939

Erm...a nice quote and I'm sure you can find nice quotes about ANY country..so really...what does Poland stand for that is especially polish?
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

Interesting...I had no idea...

spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,716216,00.html

A Critical Look at Simon Wiesenthal

Examining the Legacy of the Nazi Hunter

Until his death in 2005, Simon Wiesenthal was the world's best-known Nazi hunter. But a new biography finds fault with the way he pursued his quarry and asks whether his "soaring ego" and "tendency to fantasize" actually got in the way of his mission.

I really thought he got some...

...It is practically impossible to verify whether Wiesenthal truly brought 1,100 war criminals to justice, as he himself claimed. He was always more of a PR man than a serious investigator -- perhaps his primary service to a society determined to forget the past.

Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

I think, that even if he is biased, he is quite honest in his quest.

He sacrificed EVERYTHING on his quest....his name, his success, his money...he is practically fighting the whole world for years and he is dead serious about it, even his adversarys should acknowledge that!
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

In general, his hobby costs him money.

He has gone broke after his trial, hasn't he?

I wonder why he still does "it"...he was a renowned historian once...his book about Hitler and the third Reich had been a classic...then he chose the Holocaust as his next topic...and all went downhill for him since then.

Pariah in the historian community...trialed....broke...jailed...for decades now and still not giving up...like obsessed.

*shakes head*
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

I don't consider it a right to present to others one's warped, ideologically driven views as factual history.

But who is telling you what is warped and what is factual history?
Even as they burned Bruno the people then still fully believed the Earth is flat...

Yes I'm using Bruno with purpose to show that revisionism is as research is totally independent
from those who actually do it ...even as Irving is wrong with it's theories it is irrelevant to the neutral fact of research!
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

I disagree. Motive matters. And more often than not it predicates outcome. Therefore context is everything.

Well...the main motive for any revisionist would be to find out more about an event...maybe even finding new facts...solving more puzzles...isn't that was historians do?

After all who wants to read those big books whith only the same old stuff innit...

You know....I always compare that to my schooling in communist GDR...revisionism was forbidden.
The official narrative was the one and only allowed...dissidents where shunned or shot.
Still they lost and their story was shown to be one big lie anyhow.

I don't have to take that crap now either.

What revisionists think they found out is a matter of discussion...I don't care...but the fact that revisionism is part of our science and necessary is just that, a fact.
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

Saying that revisionism is a good thing when not knowing in what context you are talking about is silly.

Not silly!

I don't like that most people raise automatically their eyebrows if they hear only the word "revisionism" or that labeling someone "revisionist" is meant to be something bad, something despicable.

Without revisionism there would never have been any progress in any science at all...yes also in history!

So even labeling Irving as a revisionist means zilch...especially not as a derogatory comment.
His theories are another matter alltogether and up to criticism or ignorance (as with me) for everybody!
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

See the definition of Holocaust denial. Methods and extent.

That one?

Holocaust denial consists of claims that the genocide of Jews during World War II—usually referred to as the Holocaust[1]—did not occur at all, or that it did not happen in the manner or to the extent historically recognized.

And visiting the place where that happened would help support the denial how exactly?

*goes googling*
Bratwurst Boy   
16 Sep 2010
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

Yes there is.

No it isn't!

If new facts are found our evaluation of our knowledge of events needs to be revised...revisionism is actually needed and happens everywhere all the time..nothing inherently bad about it!

Only if the corrections are correct of course but that is the duty of the scientists and historians.
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

ha, that and the fact that Serbia has only 15% of that slavic haplogroup, lol.

And Serbia... only 15 %. Interesting ;)

Crow won't be pleased to read that Poles are more German than Serbian :D

He will need consolation!!! :)

But very interesting chart otherwise...

East Germany has the highest percent of I1 (pre-germanic/Nordic) but the lowest percent of R1b (...germanic)

Hmmm.....
Bratwurst Boy   
12 Sep 2010
History / Poland - problem for Germany? (historically continual hostility of German state on Poland) [154]

Since you took such an interest in Kommie being sb who can take things forward, what did those bilateral talks yield?

What do you expect Seanie?
The time where polish top politicians were always in the tabloids is gladly over...the hard work is not for the headlines, but between our politicians and experts.

Concentration on the work is actually quite nice for a change and you will see the results :)