Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

@Lyzko
For goodness sake, the Ottoman Empire only reached Podolia (if we're talking about the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth) at a certain point which is now Ukraine. And what do the Turkish have to do with Mongols?

They were only backed by the Crimean Tatars at the Battle of Vienna who left soon after Sobieski's arrival in Vienna if I remember well.

So what now, are you going to claim Turkish DNA in Austrians - after the Ottoman Empire held Vienna under siege twice.
What about Polish Jews -do they also have Mongol or Turkish DNA? If certain invasions affected DNA of ethnic Poles, did they affect the Jewish population as well? If not, how come?

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

@dnageneticsphd
And that's an accurate post.

@Lyzko
Your posts were based on 'look at Duda's beefy face' or something like that. It's not precise. It's not a fact. I'm sorry.

Life / - Conservative Radio talk shows in Poland - [60]

Seriously, what are Polish socialist and liberal radio talk shows? Perhaps they exist. Perhaps conservative radio talk shows exist, too.
But the reality is that in the era of the internet hardly anyone listens to the radio. If they do, they listen to stations that play music and present short news.

Genealogy / Want to find a person [762]

Contact the civil register office in Katowice

usc@katowice.eu

Genealogy / Want to find a person [762]

@NicStr
You need more information. There are over 1500 Rabendas in Poland.
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Rabenda

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

I have. I see no historical facts in your posts.
Will you please be more precise?

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

@Lyzko
What historical fact?

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

But it's Kremski not Krymski -might be related but I don't know.
As for its popularity, it's not very common -roughly 350 people called Kremski /Kremska.nowadays it appears throughout Poland.
Kremska
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Kremska
Kremski
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Kremski+

Genealogy / Polish Romani (gypsy) surnames [64]

I doubt there are exclusively Gypsy surnames.
I know Polish Gypsies with surnames like Kwiatkowski or Kowalski.
The most famous Polish Gypsy poet Papusza was called Bronisława Wajs which is probably phonetical spelling of Weiss.

Off-Topic / An average brain weight by ethnicity/nation [18]

The thing is that it's not the weight of the brain that matters apparently.
BTW, I wonder how it depends on one's physionomy.

Work / Self-employed American living in Poland? Is it possible? [46]

Perhaps they're really good at business as the czynsz is really low. It's actually about 100 zl lower than one for a smaller flat where I live. Kawalerkas here start with roughly 250-280 zł per month.

You had some luck with it I guess.

Work / Self-employed American living in Poland? Is it possible? [46]

@Cargo pants
147 zł of czynsz per month in the centre of Warsaw is incredibly cheap. Even for a small flat. It's actually much cheaper than in small towns.

I guess that's an exception rather than a rule.

Off-Topic / An average brain weight by ethnicity/nation [18]

Even in terms of IQ the size of the brain doesn't seem to matter. Einstein's weighted 1230 grams apparently.

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

Far more people were slaughtered during the invasions than conceived.
Not to mention, there were other invasions and wars in Poland that lasted much longer than the Mongol invasions.
And with all due respect to the victims of any war, not all rapes result in conception. Lots ended with the death of the women -as sad as it is.

One may also wonder what the fate of a child of mixed origin conceived as a result of a war rape in the Middle Ages would have been.

Work / Self-employed American living in Poland? Is it possible? [46]

Guys, where do you get such cheap flats?

@Cargo pants
A flat in the centre of Warsaw for less than a hundred dollars a month? I'm sorry but I must have misunderstood something.

Off-Topic / An average brain weight by ethnicity/nation [18]

On average females also have smaller hands, feet etc. There's nothing sexist about it. Don't be so sensitive. ;)
Fun fact: Neanderthals had bigger brains than people today.

Genealogy / Want to find a person [762]

@Edson Sanecki
Even if your parents were Polish DPs (I kind of assume they were) if you were born in Brazil, your birth record should be there. Have you been married? If so, did you have to provide any sort of documents to the priest or clerk. How about appplying for a passport, graduation etc.

I once talked to a colleague of mine about her dad's birth. He was born on a ship in December but his parents could register his birth only after arriving in Poland in January. But I don't know any precise details. Also, you were born over a year after your parents' arrival in Brazil.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

Thank you all for your support. I do appreciate it.
Unfortunately, it's in vain. She doesn't even seem to read our posts as she didn't notice several of you referring to me as 'she' and apparently thinks I'm a man.

She might be of Jewish descent. If her 'Jewish DNA' is prominent, I don't think it comes from a distant ancestor from two hundred years ago. Just like I don't believe anyone with the same surname is family. It doesn't work like that in Poland, the US or anywhere else.

For future reference of anyone interested in Polish surnames, they started to appear in late Middle Ages. They became compulsory for all ethnic groups around the 19th century depending on the partition. Some are derived from names, nicknames, physical features or places of birth. Others have different etymology.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
OK, now you have crossed the line accusing me of anti-semitism. What precisely was anti-semitic about my posts?
Will you be willing to quote?

I don't care if you're Jewish or not. But you have proved on numerous occassions that you know little or nothing about Polish surnames or the Polish language. I have been patient enough to try to explain.

None of the surnames you want to prove are Jewish are not Jewish. But you won't accept that.
If I see someone talking rubbish, I have a right to state the facts.

Stop living in your soap bubble and apply to the state archives for the record you want to see. Simple as that. It's not my fault it's not available online. If you were really into finding it, you would have done it years ago. But you're probably afraid you won't find what you're looking for.

Here are the contact details

Archiwum Państwowe w Suwałkach
ul. Kościuszki 69
16-400 Suwałki
tel./fax: (87) 566 21 67
e-mail: archiwum@suwalki.ap.gov.pl

Genealogy / Want to find a person [762]

It's still quite recent so start by checking the correct civil register office.
For Nowy Sącz usc@nowysacz.pl

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
This discussion is about Polish surnames and names. You have got your answers.
As for geneaology, you have been advised which branch of Polish state archives to contact.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
European culture is based on Judeo-Christian tradition. That is reflected in names as well. A lot of names were taken from the Bible, including the Old Testament, others are derived from Greek or Latin or local cultures. Edward is of Old English and Leonard is of Germanic origin. My first name is of Latin origin, my mother's of Greek and my father's of Germanic origin. But I won't guess we have either Roman, Greek or German origins. Similarly, I have found lots of Katarzynas and Zofias in my family tree. That doesn't make me Greek.

As far as my origin is concerned, I know as much as I have found in actual records. So I traced my great granparents, then their parents and their parents and so on. I got back to the 18th and 17th century. As for earlier records, they need more effort and time so when I find it, I'll go on. I don't know what happened before. I don't know if there were no love affairs or rapes along the way.

Also Poland was really multicultural in the past, so there were Poles, Lithuanians, Ruthenians, Germans, Scots, Jews, Tatars and probably other minorities that don't come to my mind right now. I can't rule out any drop of foreign DNA in my blood. I will never know for sure. I don't really mind although if that happened I wish I knew why.

My ancestors faced poverty, deaths of their children, wars and uprisings. Life wasn't easy for them but I hope they had some happy days as well.

As for Józef in your family, Susi sounds like a bad transcription of Józio/Józiu, short of Józef/Joseph. John is Jan or Janek for family and friends. Józiu and Janek and their variations are perfectly Polish.

The problem is that you don't know Polish and you make too many assumptions. Just like in another thread you asked about Czokalo when someone talked about Chochla. Two very different etymologies and different pronounciation.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
400 is not few.
To compare some rare surnames from my family tree- ethnic Poles, Catholics (as far as I know):
Kuryga 121
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Kuryga
Dominek 162
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Dominek
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Ci%C4%99%C5%BCart

Also keep in mind that places considered to be shetls also had non-Jewish population. They just had a considerable Jewish population within an ethnic Polish, Lithuanian or whatever community. Because they didn't have to go anusim. Some converted for different reasons. Their conversion should have been put into church books. And that's a solid record.

Andrulewicz is a Polonised version of a Lithuanian name derived from a Lithuanian first name. Lewicz has nothing to do with it.
The root Lew might come Lewko as well as lew -lion - used by Russians as a first name just to mention Lew Tolstoj.
Czarnecki comes from the root -czarny -black. A surname used in Poland long before Jews took surnames.
Jewish surnames within what is now Poland, Lithuania or Russia were usually formed according to local languages or rules.
Some were more popular among Jews some were not.
Take Jakub Szynkiewicz -the first Polish mufti - a Tatar Muslim bearing the name Jakub /Jacob and a -wicz surname. Should I claim his name us derived from szynka (ham) or from szynk -a place where alcohol was sold. So pork or alcohol for a Muslim??? His family might have taken this surname from Poles as Polish Tatars took Polish surnames. Just like Polish Jews.

A surname proves nothing.
You need a record. Check your immediate family one by one. Your granparents' records. Then their parents ' records and so on. Not everyone with the same record is your family. Period.

As for DNA tests, if you have a considerable what is considered Jewish DNA, I doubt it comes from a distant 18th century ancestor. After all I remember looking at a record from the 1820s of your ancestor -already a Christian. 200 years is at least five generations. I can't imagine your family marrying into other Anusim families especially that Jews in Poland didn't have to hide. Some towns and villages had more Jewish than ethnic Polish inhabitants and therefore were often called shetls. So I'd rather suspect a very 20th century love affair if your Jewish DNA is so dominant.

I'm sorry.

Genealogy / Displaced Persons Camp / Work camp and concentration camp difference [86]

It's worth checking their records from time to time as they keep updating available data. Last month I found one of my great grandfathers there. I didn't know he had been also sent to Germany. I came across his name looking for his son. Still no luck for three other ancestors sent to Germany.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
There are over 400 Andrulewiczs in Poland -not so few really.
nlp.actaforte.pl:8080/Nomina/Ndistr?nazwisko=Andrulewicz+

There are no 'perhaps' in geneaology. You need facts. As I stated before, you need to go record by record.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
You will never know why they converted.
I came across several question marks concerning my family history like why on earth my great grandfather was born in a very different region of Poland than the rest of his siblings. He was the only 'missing' child of his parents in that parish. I found his place of birth in his death certificate and only then was I able to find his birth certificate. I can't travel a hundred years back in time to ask them why they lived for a couple of years in a place distant from their family home.

Just check the records one by one - starting from death certificates stating their place of birth and names of parents. Then you know where to look for their birth certificates etc. If they converted, there should be records in allegata books.

Not all the people with the same last name are your family.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
Check all the clues. Don't assume anything. Just check the records.

As for ww2, the surname appears at straty.pl but I don't know if they're your family.
straty.pl/pl/szukaj

As for the Arolsen Archives, there's only one result for Andrulewicz online but I don't know if he's your family.
collections.arolsen-archives.org/search/?p=1&s=Andrulewicz

Language / -ski/-ska, -scy/ski, -wicz - Polish surnames help [185]

@Miloslaw
The key word is 'often'. And we're not talking about szlachta like Zamoyski. Although sometimes Jews allegedly got noble surnames from the nobles who were their godparents at baptism.

Language / -ski/-ska, -scy/ski, -wicz - Polish surnames help [185]

@Ironside
Urban is not a Jewish name. It's of Latin origin -name of some popes. Urban was Urbach or his father was. I don't know if it's typically Jewish surname either.

@Ziemowit
Why are Kwiecień or May considered Jewish as you stated? I read about Majewski -coming from the baptism of Frankists in May.
But do really all surnames deriving from months and days are for Jewish converts to Christianity? I read the same about Nowicki.
Now were converts converts from Judaism?
There's this author called Przechrzta. I wonder if it's his real name or if his ancestors were really converts.
As for names deriving from names of towns, they seem to be often used by Jews like Izrael Poznański. Bielski etc.

As for -wicz surnames it's obvious they come from Eastern territories. Some were used by ethnic Poles, some by Jews others by Muslim Tatars.

Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]

@Nickidewbear
It may take a while. I waited for about 2 months after my application and they didn't find everything I asked for.