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Heh:) And your's is not?

Iron, we all here are only exchanging personal opinion and views. I would never claim for myself to be the only wise one around...

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You will so miss Merkel an Co. once she is gone. Nobody will be more considerate and polite to Poland than her, I can give you that.

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So much anti-german crap here....

News / German state declare diplomatic war on Poland. [56]


Yeah...that's it. Nobody was aware of it! Because it's crap! You shouldn't use that word so lightly...not with our history...

When the opposition blasts Merkel for that meeting too, what are you gonna do now? They are Germans too...

reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/opposition-parties-blast-merkel-over-meeting-with-russian-officials-idUSKBN1KF34P

PS: The gov says the meeting was confidential, I have a guess why...it was surely about Syria. That whole topic get's slowly serious. Contrary to the opinion of the majority of the Germans Merkel is already lobbying for supporting the US in Syria...I think that meeting with the russian high top officer was about clearing the path for that, gaining intel, preparing them and whatnot...

Not everything the Germans do is about Poland...

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Germany isn't a monolithic bloc....there are party's who have more sympathy with Russia than others, "Die Linke" or the "AfD" spring to mind.

We are no dictatorship or an authocracy either, what politicians do is not always the responsibility of the government. Neither does the comment of some news paper reflect the opinion of Merkel, you need to differentiate before declaring war on the whole of Germany when you smell some german fart...

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Nope...

*goes googling*

Ooooh lookie...now I have found something in German...you were right Iron! It seems Schwabe has broken some laws to invite that woman.
It is also reported by a serious media in Germany:

welt.de/politik/ausland/article181512378/Polen-und-Deutschland-Bundestagsabgeordnete-laden-Staatsfeindin-nach-Berlin-ein.html

She was invited by Frank Schwabe (SPD), Andreas Nick (CDU) und Gyde Jensen (FDP) ...

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I can't sign in into that adress...so, no info for me! :(

But seriously Iron, if it would be such a big thing that it could mean war, don't you think that the media in our both countries would be full of it??? I can't find anything about it...

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Oki...

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I can't find anything for this person after August 22....her being mentioned because she was expelled from Poland...and nothing about her in the Bundestag...help me out here Iron!

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/378195,Ukrainian-expelled-from-Poland-aided-Russia%E2%80%99s-hybrid-warfare-reports

....but that sounds abit nutty:

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Can't you just give me a link for your story....

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How?

Germany has nobody deported....

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The EU deported her???

When has the EU ever deported someone?


Oh it get's better. Just recently it came out that the austrian intelligence now lays in the hands of the FPÖ, a very Putin-friendly far-right party, which now is in a government coalition. Meaning nobody can be sure anymore what Putin get's to hear and whatnot.

...that was discussed in the Bundestag too btw...!

telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/22/former-german-intelligence-chief-warns-against-sharing-secrets

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....I have a helmet...

News / German state declare diplomatic war on Poland. [56]

An Ukrainian has been DEPORTED from Poland...by Poland. How does that mean war with Germany?

khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1534346003

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


Nah...you don't understand...they had their cryo chambers on the moon. EVERYBODY who is not brainwashed by the "elite" KNOWS the truth!!! *tsk*

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


A great cultural difference, if you ask me. Advertising with guns is totally okay in the US...killing people gets only shrugs...but the horror if there could be a nipple to be seen...shock!

In Germany it really is the other way around, nipples galore...nude people no problems...There would never be a nipple gate in Germany. :) But drastic violence? Nope...

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Well...I was under occupation by the Soviets and their east German boot lickers till '89...no anglo-american zionist in sight.

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Define "certain"....

And I never heard of the second case...do you have more info? Or do you mean that?

welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article175390984/Tod-am-Jungfernstieg-Es-wird-20-Uhr-und-dann-geht-es-hier-los.html

I repeat, I can say what I want!

PS: I think I know now what you meant:

Here is more about the video...

focus.de/regional/hamburg/hamburg-kritik-an-polizei-razzia-wie-rechte-den-messer-mord-von-jungfernstieg-missbrauchen_id_8824400.html

It was made by some "gospel singer" whose horrified voice can be heard. It was uploaded to his youtube channel by one Heinrich K. aus Eilbek.


(my translation) "Police and prosecutors office justified the razzia with the personal rights of the dying mother and the baby. These rights are still valid even after their death."

Reminds me abit about that video of that beheaded American a few years back. It was deleted from youtube soon to, many people just find such a video inhuman and impious, disrespecting the victim....you can call it censorship if you want. Others would call it decency.


I agree, that's stupid. People get only more suspicious...and since 2015 I personally don't feel anymore that the media go to any lengths to avoid the naming. If it's an Ali or an Aishe they say it, if it's an refugee or a migrant they say it.

It would be useless not to anyhow since people have alot ways to inform theirselves. That is a fight they surely lost by now.

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I can say what I want...I have no interest in denying the holocaust nor do I plan to call out for the murder of someone or a whole group of people though....so I'm on the safe side... :)

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Yes...not that bad! Me and nobody in my family or on my 'hood was beheaded, raped killed, mugged or stabbed. Nobody tried to convert us either...there are still the two churches chiming their bells loudly in the near (one catholic, one protestant), the supermarkets are full, the streets are quiet...life is still mostly good here.

The biggest problem for Berliners is actually to find housing. There is an excruciating bad housing situation in all big cities..now THAT is bad! And you can justifiable blame Merkels gov for that...

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Dirk, I live here! No matter what they tell you, it's not THAT bad as you make it out to be... Trust me abit on that! :)

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Karin Göring-Eckardt said that...she says alot of dumb stuff. One of the reasons I could never vote Green...

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Where were they during your partitions...WWI....how did they treat you after WWII...and the cold war?

Poland had been burned because they relied on far away countries instead to get close to it's neighbours...a behaviour seen again today... Instead to immerse yourself into the EU, becoming an integral, essential part of it, shaping it for the best of Poland you (and Johnny) keep on blaming others for doing it. Again preferring the image of the "proud loner".

Maybe that has something to do with the polish mentality, who knows...

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In a closer union with a common army there will be no longer "eurocrats punishing countries"....it will be the same way Washington rules over Iowa, Montana or Idaho...

Decision time!


Poland the next Iran? That's your vision for Poland?

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Of course not, that's the point!

Every EU member today keeps still his own army...invests billions in it....imagine Iowa having it's own army....and Montana...and Idaho...they wouldn't stand a chance against Russia alone on their own either. But as the US they do!

It will take time to build a functional EU wide army, with all armies unified into one, and all members sharing costs and personal.

But for that you need a closer politically integration too, something many nationalists want to fight at all costs. They would rather see their countries lose alone, each for its own, than win together.

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It's an "what if" scenario! :)

If Johnny means Russia with "the enemy from the East" it's just illogically to believe Poland can handle it better alone...that never worked in the past and won't work in the future.

I personally wouldn't look to Russia as that enemy though....for me the rising rival of the future is China (also in the East). But also in this case the EU would be much stronger together than Poland or Germany or any other european country alone for itself.

That is no politics, or ideology but pure logic!


Because we still have nothing of that whats needed....yet...

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And you fret over a new HRE? ;)

Actually if you live in that fear you should do everything in your power that Poland not only stays in the EU but that Poland works hard for unifying the EU's military, to build an EU-army.

Instead of breaking each finger on it's own that "enemy from the East" would think twice to attack that huge EU fist!

But you are lobbying for a Polexit...ensuring Poland has to face the threat alone and isolated....again! Not smart!!!

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Nope...never again! In the EU there will be no other war ever again. I'm totally sure of it.

I can't give honestly a promise for the Balkans or Ukraine or other "outskirts" of Europe, but not ever between members of the EU.

Every year the countries inside the EU interconnect and mix so much more on the economical and human levels, even if the politics often don't mirror that, that war would be totally senseless, and self-destructiv for every one. It would be like kicking ones own balls...there is just no sense in that even more.

About a world war I'm not sure...who against whom?


Today in the EU most bitching and fighting happens over desks and through the media, not through weapons.


You are repeating yourself but I'm still waiting for your explanation....why did you choose the HRE as warning?

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....or as Voltaire said so nicely:

"The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire!"

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


How?


You mean soon Central- and south Europe will be split again into more than 500 tiny countries and Brussels as the main seat of power will be dissolved? :)


Which statelet will that be then?