Language / Why is the Polish language so difficult? [309]

its not difficult to me. Quite natural in any sense. Very melodic and truly nice.

Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]

In my country, we have surname Polak. Its not derogatory.

History / Sarmatism in Poland [119]

Merged: Turks says that Sarmatism wasn`t Polish but Turkish thing

Truly tragical news. That biggest resort of Polish national pride, Sarmatism, wasn`t result of deepest Polish cultural processes and Slavic (ie Sarmatian) inter-influences but, that belong to Ottoman Turkish and Islamic (with all due respect) cultural impact onto the Poles? What a shame that it was published on Visegrad Group website (as it is stated in article). How much Poles have to sacrifice for the peace in European house? As if falsification of entire Slavic history (by the western European scholars) isn`t enough but, as we learn on Visegrad website, Poles even were not capable to invent their own culture, martial arts and national pride but took it from their opponents- Ottoman Turks.

No, this isn`t tragical news. Its abominable. God even didn`t have plans for Ottomans when ancestors of Poles had their Sarmatian legends, heritage and history. It was Slavs that influences certain processes (including martial art) in Ottomans and not the opposite. Actually, history of antic Rome and Greece wouldn`t be possible to understand without being able to comprehend Sarmatian influence on their cultures. That deep are Polish roots. Roots that are now openly attacked.

Islam's Long-lasting Influence on Polish Culture

Miltiades Varvounis / March 3rd, 2015
muftah.org/islams-long-lasting-influence-polish-culture/#.VUjeGvAmZER

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


Yes, Jon. All this globalization, turbulence in world is about society, about civilization. Different human cultures clashes for the position of leading human civilization. When you lead, others submit to your cultural influence. Point is - there are a lot of false protagonists of false tolerance. Many say `tolerance` (racial, cultural, ethnic, any), while seek to rule and control.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

yes. i know what you want to tell us. All the way to the monkey horde and amoeba horde even before that

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

As i said, Slavs lived on inter-continental level since time immemorial and sub-racial differences are normal in Slavs, so in Poles, too. So no matter traditional in general, Slavs also have potential to be tolerant. Tolerant, not in the sense of encouraged racial mixing as it is forced by the world`s ruling establishment (ie west of Europe and USA) but tolerant in the sense of sustainable coexistence with others.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Why do you telling that to me? i didn`t start this thread.

On the other side, if we follow your logic, we would conclude that Poland`s borders aren`t necessary thing. That even Poles aren`t necessary thing.

And for all that time, while Poland and Poles aren`t necessary, some kind of civilization is necessary. Some. That won`t be Polish civilization, isn`t it? Some other for sure.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


i am not genetic expert. You can also name it: `genes that define white race` or `Europoid gene pool`, even `Slavic (ie Sarmatian) gene stock`.

But anyway, no matter that we aren`t experts on the field of genetics, we need to have elemental knowledge in history. At least if we were to speak in threads like this. Note how is knowledge of history important for understanding of what`s going on in our time, for understanding of topic of this thread.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

i didn`t judge, as you are judging. i only state facts. Its not my problem if those facts aren`t nice to some.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


one of the reasons is that during era of slavery, on the territories of what is today`s Poland (and not only there), Whites (Slavic/Sarmatian ancestors of Poles) were hunted (in masses exterminated or relocated in the western and south-western Europe and Arabic lands) by the already romanzied (and then germanized) racially mixed western Europe, while from time to time, non-European invaders made an influx of genes. So, purely White genome is being weakening for millennia, while darker complexion genome spread more or less freely. Also, have in mind that since time immemorial, in pre-Roman and later (to the our times) Slavic/Sarmatian civilization exist on inter-continental level, which is the natural reason for different sub-racial characteristics.

USA, Canada / 18 and moving back from USA to Poland?? [19]

Leaving USA?

good for you. USA is totally crazy. Poland is better for decent life

Life / Thread dedicated to Polish and other Slavic children [53]

Polish talent girl singing

The Voice of Poland IV - Ania Deko - "Małe rzeczy" - Przesłuchania w Ciemno

youtube.com/watch?v=4uW3UpPugdQ

Slovak talent girl singing

Lucia Molnárová - Nešlap, nelámej

youtube.com/watch?v=LoUE53lpl48

True sounds of ancients

Yurya - Belarusian Folk Song - sang and performed by Belarus teenagers

youtube.com/watch?v=nGuUE2FePKY

We Slavs aren`t nation. No, we are people. Nations are something young. We Slavs are ancient people of ancient civilization, with deep culture. By God granted with great physical and spiritual beauty.

Serbian talent girl singing

Marija Marceta - Ljubav mi srce mori (Love is torturing my heart)

youtube.com/watch?v=Y0xyjMc2MEQ

Polish talent girl singing

The Voice of Poland III - Olga Jankowska - "Tego chciałam"

youtube.com/watch?v=3TOvohWRYis

Thank you God for in your unimaginable wisdom and great mercy You made me to be Slavic born.

Young Russian girls singing Ave Maria

А.Титова, В.Котова, В.Оганисян - Ave Maria (Голос дети)

youtube.com/watch?v=Ed-Us5T0t4I

Ajsa Kapetanovic from Serbia - Zlatnik - (Golden coin)

youtube.com/watch?v=kvdRhLQnYkc

Polish people demonstrate their Slavic solidarity

youtube.com/watch?v=N561gn3o2PA

days of Polish diaspora in Serbia, sponsored by Polish embassy in Belgrade

youtube.com/watch?v=qI0k7Mv1_pY

Lena Stamenković - Lenina pesma - Serbia - 2015 Junior Eurovision Song Contest

youtube.com/watch?v=NcaFIW1M7Z8

on my knees i beg owner of the web site and admin to repair all links in this thread. This is especial thread. For Slavic children

Now, Cossack children >

Katyusha - Kuban Cossacks Choir (Children's Choir)

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZuiaMQ3pwrI

Кавказские частушки (Caucasian ditties) - Children's Choir School Kuban Cossack Choir

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iefZb_gyeXk

Ah, the little Cossacks - Children Kuban Cossack Choir

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DfpQUsqRzxU

History / Polish nobility - what is the status of princes and aristocrats in modern Poland? [33]


but who knows. If we look realistically, all known `receipts` for democracy may failed in some circumstances, no matter the form of government. We today in our time are witnesses how democracy in republics worldwide is failing. True, there are also failed monarchies in our time. But, what i want to tell- there is no general rule which government leads to democracy. i would say that good standard of living (accompanied by the positive moral values) provides environment desirable by modern humans and, `good standard of living` implies responsible and competent leadership no matter form of the government.

History / Polish nobility - what is the status of princes and aristocrats in modern Poland? [33]

It would be so romantic and noble to have Kingdom of Poland in Europe. But, which nobleman could be able today to claim right on Polish throne is question for itself. What is interesting is that if we apply medieval Polish standards from the era of `Sarmatism`, person for the throne could be elected. Now, i`m not quite sure how was King elected during `Sarmatism`, by the voices of just nobility or by the voices of all people who had right to vote. And who had right to vote?

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]

are you joking Harry? is this kind of mental petting of yours?

Off-Topic / Random movies (not Polish) proposed by forum users [91]

Merged: Polish custom worker in Serbian movie `Balkan Express`

a comedy and parody on WWII

These are the best scenes from the movie Balkan Express. Story is about `Balkan Express` music orchestra band, which members do have contacts with black market but are also patriots. Anyway, on these scenes they saving Polish custom worker who is hunted by Nazis, in occupied Serbia. Some members at first complaint why would they save a Pole (and risk to lose heads by the Germans), when is much more profitable to save life of English or American pilots. In any case, they taking Polish custom worker under their protection, while the Pole constantly drive them crazy because wants to join to resistance movement and to fight against Germans. So, they hold a Pole locked in basement, while he constantly escapes. At the end, Polish custom worker joined to `orchestra` in their black market activities. Finally, they all escapes to Casablanca.

Balkan Ekspres 2 - Najbolje scene 2 - Poljski carinik ! - Polish custom worker saved by Serbs during WWII

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

In any case Silesian speech is either dialect of Polish language, or just another Slavic language. So, nothing Germanic in Silesia except some traces of Germanization. But, even those traces would disappear with time and when Poland completely consolidate its economy and provide decent standard of living to all citizens.

When crisis in Silesia escalate and when Germany mistake and push things little bit more, Poles and Serbians would fight side by side, again.

Polish patriots sing
youtube.com/watch?v=3Y64XJk-63U
youtube.com/watch?v=Gni78FkSnKg

Sarmats awake!

Serbian army using old Prussian parade march. Officially, old Prussians are by Serbian army seen as old Slavs. So, its quite obvious that Silesia isn `t Germanic but Slavic, by God blessed to be part of Poland.

Anyway, enjoy looking at Serbian blue guard of Slavia, at a military parade in China in 2015, marching in old Prussian parade mach >>>

Admin, please leave this link as it is >>> This is simple must see >>>

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]


yes, i agree. But, if you note i just answered on provocation.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

you know how looks like that what you said? Like you were there and sow it with your own eyes and you now want to convince us. To me who is familiar with European and Slavic history, your fabricated tales actually `sound` as `stories from the thousand and one nights`.

Jolly, even Vandals were germanized Slavs. One who knows history can even ask- what else they could be?

Spot this

This is the latest Roman state border, mid-fifth century. Colored in yellow are Sarmatian settlements within in the Roman Empire. Anywhere outside of the eastern and northern Roman borders (also all around Black Sea) were Sarmatians (ie Proto Slavs). Even if you look British islands, outside of the Roman border to the North lived Picts, Sarmatian tribe. This all means that Roman Empire expanded onto the Sarmatian territory. Ultimately, Roman Empire was originally created within Sarmatian realm (or on the most southern most Sarmatian borders on Mediterranean), due to different historical circumstances (i won`t go into it now). So, Sarmats lived within Roman borders and outside of them. With time, some Sarmats were Romanized.

Roman-Sarmatian border


Poles have all historical reasons to trust to Serbs. On the other side, Poles have all historical reasons not to trust to west of Europe.


Listen. Delegation of the Poland`s parliament made independent investigation on terrain. They founded that Serbs are innocent and that actually crimes were committed on Serbs.

Please do not drift away from the topic

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Prussia itself was germanized Slavic realm.

Prussia was subjugated to Germanics back in 1226, when was conquered by the Teutonic Knights (a military religious order), who converted the Prussians to Christianity. But, Prussians turned for help to Poles, pledge their loyalty to Poland if Poles help them against Teutons and then rebelled against Teutonic Knights, in 1454. In 1657, after an invasion by the Swedes, Poland surrendered sovereignty over last portions of Prussia that still controlled. Rest is history of subjugation, partitions and revival of Poland.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]


Did you heard for a term `Drang Nach Osten`? You are, i suppose. See, German Empire was result of Drang Nach Osten. So, any eventual separation of some region from Germany, in order to merge that region with some Slavic state (Poland for example or Russia), represent something legal.

Actually, that`s what happened on the example of Kaliningrad. It was liberation. Same is with Silesia that was attached to Mother Poland. There is no love then it is love of Mother.


Exactly.


Beautifully defined. i wouldn`t tell it better.


you absolutely have all rights to believe what you want. i believe in something else but, i am even ready to defend your right to believe what you want.

This is very interesting.

Please, note


/wiki/Silesia

Let me offer etymology of the word from the angle of Serbian language

In Serbian (Slavic language; Central Europe, South-Eastern Europe and Balkan), Silesia is `Silesija`. Meaning is `numerous and powerful`. Word `silesija` originate from word `sila`. In Serbian `sila` can be understand as `power` and `numerous`. So, both at the same time. `Silesija` is version of `sila` and is regularly understand as `truly numerous`. Now, in context when Serbian language designate some region as `Silesija` it means that Serbs understand that is region `heavily populated`, `with numerous population`. To say, `Silesija` is `land of great/big tribe/people`.

Anyway, trusting to Serbian language, which is probably most archaic Slavic speech, i investigated more in Wikipedia >>>


/wiki/Silingi

Trust to Serbs. Their language remembered. Silingi were not Germanic but they were Sarmatian tribe and, as it is proven, Sarmatian name was deep in past universal name of all Slavs. Also, this way or another, we know that Sarmats lived in what is today`s Silesia.

Beware Poles, west of Europe distorted Slavic history. You can`t trust them. You either resist to them or you giving up from yourself. Its simple as that. Its just so simple.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]


So? What you didn`t understand? That people don`t intend to attach their land to some non-Slavic state. Its all within Slavia.


as you see, anti-Polish is anti-Slavic. Nobody within Slavia can`t secede Slavic land and attach it to other civilization. i mean, it can be tried but, not without serious consequences and disturbances.

But, if solution isn`t possible within Poland, solution in any case must be found within Slavic civilization, with mediation of Poland, taking in account interests of Poland. Ultimately, some hypothetical future Silesian independent state would be still Slavic Silesia. It can`t merge with Germany. Never.

Actually, there are already many regions in today`s Germany with population of Slavic origin, on Slavic ground, by force occupied by Germanics who then introduced germanization. Those regions and that population also have its rights.


If so, then its wrong and it is possible to happen because Poland isn`t independent but subjugated.


as i explained. Poland isn`t independent and so, any separation from Poland must be considered as illegal, juridically null and void.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

i repeat, plebiscite isn`t applicable in this and similar cases. You can`t apply plebiscite on population that was under the pressure of ideology (germanization; in this particular case) for hundreds of years and expect that population show serious resistance to that ideology when exposed to situation such is plebiscite. It simple isn`t realistic, its wrong and also even isn`t honest neither to that originally Slavic population in Silesia, neither to the Slavic civilization in general.

i really don`t care what thinks France, UK or Germany. They are anyway all the same to me.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

Prijatelju Pane TheOther, why did you said to me `nonsense` and then practically confirmed what i said- that `plebiscite isn`t applicable in this and similar cases`? France and UK were nonsensical, as you yourself said and, as i already knew.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]


yes, Tusk was PM back then, in heavy disagreements with President Kaczinski. After Kaczinski died, it was Tusk who directed foreign policy of Poland and Poland still follow that direction.

Don`t forget that Tusk play role of EU`s obedient boy. Man is well positioned in EU circles. Rewarded.


As a loon to loon, you are welcome.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

As we concluded, plebiscite isn`t applicable in this and similar cases.

Most important thing here is that Poland have its sovereignty. Let us hope that some people don`t suggest violation of sovereignty and borders of Poland.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]

So, Rogere5, in other words, you don`t think that NATO and EU magnates assassinated president Lech?

Well, who knows. i would leave it as open question. Thanks for upload of your thoughts, Rogere5

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

No matter violent or due to economic incentives, Germanization is mental process. It affecting brain. So, people need more time to get rid of effects and start to behave normally.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]


alright. When started Drang Nach Osten? When started pressure on Slavs in what is today`s Silesia?

If that pressure started 500 years ago or even earlier, you should wait another 500 years that people live free in Slavic Poland and then you can expect realistic plebiscite.

Genealogy / Are Silesians people German/Germanic? [178]

no questions. Everything is clear

Pro-Germanic `plebiscite` organized in a region that was historically exposed to violent Germanziation means nothing. Plus, region don`t belong only to Silesians but to all Slavs.

If that plebiscite really occurred, Poland is for sure already targeted by EU. Beware Poles.